[chuff me dizzy]

No Im not talking of Ellie not choosing Sam ,or even Sam letting Issa take the rap even though he cannot win ,Im talking about Snake Boy ! He stepped on his so called mates last night, and its HIS fault Issa is up not Sams

But have I or have I not said the last few days he was up Sues ample arse ? I was knocked all over this forum for saying this, but I was proved right last night

But what he classed as a good move will show to be a very bad move as the public will see his game now and his dirty tricks ,He's doomed !

[Niamh.]

I haven't watched it yet but tbf from H/Ls I've seen Raph interact with Sue alot more that he does with Issy

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I haven't watched it yet but tbf from H/Ls I've seen Raph interact with Sue alot more that he does with Issy

I agree. Also I think they can save who they want. I don't get why Raph is to blame for Issy being up. That was Sam's fault really for being so spineless.

[Littlegreen]

Urrrgh my problematic faves.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I agree. Also I think they can save who they want. I don't get why Raph is to blame for Issy being up. That was Sam's fault really for being so spineless.

Issy is supposed to be Raphs friend ,but he saved Sue ?

[Vanessa]

Only tibb blames Raph for Issy being up. Even DS knows that it was Sam's fault.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Issy is supposed to be Raphs friend ,but he saved Sue ?

Why is he supposed to be Issys friend more than Sues? He seems to speak a whole lot more to Sue. Can you remember the last time we saw raph and Issy sitting down having a chat like he does with Sue?

[Littlegreen]

I said on here yesterday the sisters and Raph are actually still close to Sue. I think because we lump Isabelle in with Chanelle/Raph it seemed more shocking.

- lack of live feed once again.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

I said on here yesterday the sisters and Raph are actually still close to Sue. I think because we lump Isabelle in with Chanelle/Raph it seemed more shocking.

- lack of live feed once again.

I do wonder as well if he's getting a bit fed up Chanelle himself but can't say much this late in the game

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why is he supposed to be Issys friend more than Sues? He seems to speak a whole lot more to Sue. Can you remember the last time we saw raph and Issy sitting down having a chat like he does with Sue?

Oh give over Niamh Of course he was supposed to be more Issas friend than Sues ,they've spent lots of time together, he did what he did for a reason last night, i don't know what reason,but its certainly wasn't because he gets on better with Sue, but the "Master Gamer" has dropped a major bollox as what he did will be seen as sly and sneaky ,and his master plan will come back and bite him firmly on the arse

[bots]

He saved someone that can't win, that immediately shows a game plan. The other thing is that a "real" friend would never assume that someone else was going to protect their mate, they would make sure that person was safe .... but only if that's what they really wanted

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

He saved someone that can't win, that immediately shows a game plan. The other thing is that a "real" friend would never assume that someone else was going to protect their mate, they would make sure that person was safe .... but only if that's what they really wanted

Exactly, but I'm so glad to say,his actions last night lost him the chance he had of winning, his appeal was fading fast anyway and before last night it was doubtful he could win,but he cemented it last night

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Oh give over Niamh Of course he was supposed to be more Issas friend than Sues ,they've spent lots of time together, he did what he did for a reason last night, i don't know what reason,but its certainly wasn't because he gets on better with Sue, but the "Master Gamer" has dropped a major bollox as what he did will be seen as sly and sneaky ,and his master plan will come back and bite him firmly on the arse

Why though? Chanelle and Issy are friendly so Raph needs to be too? Like i said from what we're shown on H/Ls raph talks to Sue a hell of alot more. i can't remember the last time I saw raph and Issy sit down and have a conversation where as I've seen him speak to Sure in the last gtwo h/ls shows atleast, if not more. he has balls picking her imo when most in there hate her

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why though? Chanelle and Issy are friendly so Raph needs to be too? Like i said from what we're shown on H/Ls raph talks to Sue a hell of alot more. i can't remember the last time I saw raph and Issy sit down and have a conversation where as I've seen him speak to Sure in the last gtwo h/ls shows atleast, if not more. he has balls picking her imo when most in there hate her

Ok Niamh you will keep arguing this until I cave in and say Ok you're right, but we both know its not the truth, he has been close to Issy for weeks, the last 3 or 4 days he's been up Sues arse, if he wasn't such a close mate of Issys why were everyone on Bots and lots on Facebook so shocked at what he did ? they would have expected and accepted he would choose Sue, but they haven't

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ok Niamh you will keep arguing this until I cave in and say Ok you're right, but we both know its not the truth, he has been close to Issy for weeks, the last 3 or 4 days he's been up Sues arse, if he wasn't such a close mate of Issys why were everyone on Bots and lots on Facebook so shocked at what he did ? they would have expected and accepted he would choose Sue, but they haven't

They're shocked because of the house "divide" that issy joined after she came in.....that's mostly gone now though and Raph seems to be closer to people in the house who aren't in that original gang like Kieran for example and Sue as well. Anyway, it's his choice, good for him for choosing who he wants

[Littlegreen]

I was shocked Charlotte saved Andrew over Ellie.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They're shocked because of the house "divide" that issy joined after she came in.....that's mostly gone now though and Raph seems to be closer to people in the house who aren't in that original gang like Kieran for example and Sue as well. Anyway, it's his choice, good for him for choosing who he wants

It wont be good for him on finals night !! Its going to be party time at Chuffs and you're more than welcome to come

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

It wont be good for him on finals night !! Its going to be party time at Chuffs and you're more than welcome to come

haha, I'll be there with bells on Chuff For me as long as Ellie doesn't win, it'll be a good result

[Withano]

He was for sure playing the game. I'm not sure if it was to **** on anybody else though, I think it was more to save himself - he knew Sue would never nom him so shes a useful tool to have around, and I believe that he believes that all his other friends were safe.

[Kazanne]

Isabelle has comforted Raph when he has been upset,I didn't like the girl,but I can see that Raph picking Sue was a bit weird,he knows she can't win and he doesn't talk to Sue anymore than the others from what I have seen,so I thought he would have saved a friend.

[Jordan.]

Raph is obviously closer with Issy (hence her saving him and the rest of the house being shocked at him saving Sue over her) Seems their friendship is now being downplayed just to excuse his shady decision.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

haha, I'll be there with bells on Chuff For me as long as Ellie doesn't win, it'll be a good result

God forbid she wins !! I cannot see anyone but Issy or Deborah winning it to be fair

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No Im not talking of Ellie not choosing Sam ,or even Sam letting Issa take the rap even though he cannot win ,Im talking about Snake Boy ! He stepped on his so called mates last night, and its HIS fault Issa is up not Sams

But have I or have I not said the last few days he was up Sues ample arse ? I was knocked all over this forum for saying this, but I was proved right last night

But what he classed as a good move will show to be a very bad move as the public will see his game now and his dirty tricks ,He's doomed !

As the show airs i usually check the BBUK hashtag and viewers were overwhelmingly against the move that Raph made. Lots of 'I've gone right off him after that' tweets.

A good move for BBUS but a ****ty move for BBUK where the public decides.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by MrWong

As the show airs i usually check the BBUK hashtag and viewers were overwhelmingly against the move that Raph made. Lots of 'I've gone right off him after that' tweets.

A good move for BBUS but a ****ty move for BBUK where the public decides.

Glad to say he's blown it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

God forbid she wins !! I cannot see anyone but Issy or Deborah winning it to be fair

I hope you're right about Ellie but you never know she's playing that character that seems to fool alot of people (and it drives me crazy)

Honestly I think Kieran is most likely to win and maybe Ellie. I would be over the moon if Deborah or Issy won (and obviously raph but I don't think he's got a chance really)