[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

We can't blame the migrants. They just want to escape poverty and believe Europe is the land of milk and honey. If I was earning £4 a month and a sack of rice cost me £5, I would be looking at every option for a better life.

That doesn't mean I accept illegal migrants, it just means I understand why we have them. I also accept that European governments could be doing a lot more to discourage these people
If we can't afford to put systems in place, like Libya is trying hard to do, then they will keep on coming here.

Indeed - the vast majority of economic illegal immigrants actually would love to stay where they are. Culturally, socially, geographically... they would love to stay in the country that is their home. Who would actually CHOOSE to leave some gorgeous countries to live crammed into a tiny flat in rainy London with 5 other strangers, all for the honor of working an often less than min wage job?

People make that leap because they feel like they have no choice... and the way to reduce this sort of economic migration isn't "closing the borders" of the countries they're trying to come to... it's actually starting to work together to make sure that people don't have to abandon their homes in the first place.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Indeed - the vast majority of economic illegal immigrants actually would love to stay where they are. Culturally, socially, geographically... they would love to stay in the country that is their home. Who would actually CHOOSE to leave some gorgeous countries to live crammed into a tiny flat in rainy London with 5 other strangers, all for the honor of working an often less than min wage job?

People make that leap because they feel like they have no choice... and the way to reduce this sort of economic migration isn't "closing the borders" of the countries they're trying to come to... it's actually starting to work together to make sure that people don't have to abandon their homes in the first place.

Absolutely but that takes money and resources. When you look at countries like Nigeria and the foreign oil corporations like Shell, Texaco and Mobil there has to be some responsibility laid in their hands. When the Nigerians found oil, the West wanted their chunk of the pie. The only people who suffered in this paradox of plenty were the Nigerians.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Indeed - the vast majority of economic illegal immigrants actually would love to stay where they are. Culturally, socially, geographically... they would love to stay in the country that is their home. Who would actually CHOOSE to leave some gorgeous countries to live crammed into a tiny flat in rainy London with 5 other strangers, all for the honor of working an often less than min wage job?

People make that leap because they feel like they have no choice... and the way to reduce this sort of economic migration isn't "closing the borders" of the countries they're trying to come to... it's actually starting to work together to make sure that people don't have to abandon their homes in the first place.

"Indeed - the vast majority of economic illegal immigrants actually would love to stay where they are. "


what evidence do you have to support this?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Indeed - the vast majority of economic illegal immigrants actually would love to stay where they are. "


what evidence do you have to support this?

Sounds like assumption to me!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Indeed - the vast majority of economic illegal immigrants actually would love to stay where they are. "


what evidence do you have to support this?

Oh OK sorry, economic migrants move from some beautiful countries to rat-infested London slums because Britain. It's not that they're struggling to get by financially in their own countries - in fact, jobs and money are ABUNDANT there, but Britain. Why wouldn't they want to live here? London. Britain and stuff. You know. Queen.

I mean why would anyone assume that economic migrants move here because of money, and really would rather stay in their home countries if they could make enough money there. Their countries are not Britain, so of course they would want to leave!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Oh OK sorry, economic migrants move from some beautiful countries to rat-infested London slums because Britain. It's not that they're struggling to get by financially in their own countries - in fact, jobs and money are ABUNDANT there, but Britain. Why wouldn't they want to live here? London. Britain and stuff. You know. Queen.

I mean why would anyone assume that economic migrants move here because of money, and really would rather stay in their home countries if they could make enough money there. Their countries are not Britain, so of course they would want to leave!

where are the rat infested slums pray? you only had to look at the migrant camp at Calais to see that the UK was the holy grail, they were in France they didn't want to stay with all the wine, grapes and french farmhouses, why was that?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

where are the rat infested slums pray? you only had to look at the migrant camp at Calais to see that the UK was the holy grail, they were in France they didn't want to stay with all the wine, grapes and french farmhouses, why was that?

We covered this Cherie - it was because the French don't make good fish *& chips and also, Baby Prince George.

Obviously.

I mean I can't think of any other reason - such as the hope of potential economic prosperity - that any economic migrant would try to get into the UK. I mean, we KNOW it's not because they were struggling financially in their home country. LT said so. That ship has sailed. They were fine there and had loads of money but the magnificent Britain called out to them - like a siren through the fog - and they want to come here just because.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Indeed - the vast majority of economic illegal immigrants actually would love to stay where they are. Culturally, socially, geographically... they would love to stay in the country that is their home. Who would actually CHOOSE to leave some gorgeous countries to live crammed into a tiny flat in rainy London with 5 other strangers, all for the honor of working an often less than min wage job?

People make that leap because they feel like they have no choice... and the way to reduce this sort of economic migration isn't "closing the borders" of the countries they're trying to come to... it's actually starting to work together to make sure that people don't have to abandon their homes in the first place.

Preach.