[Jack_]

Yeah guys...'racist' is a recently made up word by those nasty snowflakes on Twitter, duh!

racist (n.)

1932 (as an adjective from 1938), from race (n.2) + -ist. Racism is in continual use from 1936 (from French racisme, 1935), originally in the context of Nazi theories. These words replaced earlier racialism (1882) and racialist (1910), both often used early 20c. in a British or South African context. There are isolated uses of racism from c. 1900.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/racist

Damn those social justice warriors and their new terminology!

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yeah guys...'racist' is a recently made up word by those nasty snowflakes on Twitter, duh!



https://www.etymonline.com/word/racist

Damn those social justice warriors and their new terminology!

Who mentioned twitter? And whilst I realise anything before the 1960s (or indeed anything before twitter) is ancient to some of you, 1932 is actually relatively recent. It had no objective meaning then. It had no objective meaning in the 60s when it was used against Enoch Powell (who nobody was ever able to define it to). And it has no objective meaning today. It, along with all the other "isms" and fake "phobias" of recent times is used exactly as I am pointing out the word "homophobia" is used.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Who mentioned twitter? And whilst I realise anything before the 1960s (or indeed anything before twitter) is ancient to some of you, 1932 is actually relatively recent. It had no objective meaning then. It had no objective meaning in the 60s when it was used against Enoch Powell (who nobody was ever able to define it to). And it has no objective meaning today. It, along with all the other "isms" and fake "phobias" of recent times is used exactly as I am pointing out the word "homophobia" is used.

So what should hatred towards homosexual people be? Homo-hatred? You have to remember, that it was taboo for a very long time to even talk about homosexuality in popular media, especially in the US, where everything is more censored/watered down than in the UK.

I remember when it came into heavy usage here in the 90's, and homophobia was a "softer", more PC word than bigotry/"hate". It was usually centered around conversations about behavior modification, i.e. don't be afraid or fearful of showing your homosexuality, etc...

The most common example in conversation was centered around how men were fearful of having their man-card challenged because they find other men attractive... it was meant to break the stigma of homosexuality being synonymous with sun and made it more acceptable in popular culture.

PC culture often runs both ways, especially in the US. Conservative/average folk don't like to be told off. So being called a homophobe meant you should open your mind a little bit more... it wasn't meant to make you into a bigot, but someone who needed their minds changed. At least back then.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yeah guys...'racist' is a recently made up word by those nasty snowflakes on Twitter, duh!



https://www.etymonline.com/word/racist

Damn those social justice warriors and their new terminology!

I think they meant homophobe. Not sure why it being recent-ish has anything to do with anything... it's almost as old as Ann

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia

Origin of the term

Although sexual attitudes tracing back to Ancient Greece (8th to 6th centuries BC to the end of antiquity (ca. 600 AD)) have been termed homophobia by scholars, the term itself is relatively new,[11] and an intolerance towards homosexuality and homosexuals grew during the Middle Ages, especially by adherents of Islam and Christianity.[12]

Coined by George Weinberg, a psychologist, in the 1960s,[13] the term homophobia is a blend of (1) the word homosexual, itself a mix of neo-classical morphemes, and (2) phobia from the Greek φόβος, Phóbos, meaning "fear" or "morbid fear".[14][15][16] Weinberg is credited as the first person to have used the term in speech.[11] The word homophobia first appeared in print in an article written for the May 23, 1969, edition of the American pornographic magazine Screw, in which the word was used to refer to heterosexual men's fear that others might think they are gay.[11]

[Yaki da]

So it's a word that came out of the 1960s during the cultural revolution in America, and was no doubt created for subversive reasons. There was something called the long march through the institutions that went on in America after the 60s. That would not have been complete until the mid-90s. People coming out of universities today are the first to be fully immersed in this kind of language. It should come as no surprise that all of these fashionable left wing causes are accompanied by it.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

So it's a word that came out of the 1960s during the cultural revolution in America, and was no doubt created for subversive reasons. There was something called the long march through the institutions that went on in America after the 60s. That would not have been complete until the mid-90s. People coming out of universities today are the first to be fully immersed in this kind of language. It should come as no surprise that all of these fashionable left wing causes are accompanied by it.

Ok, so changing the definition of homophobe (etc), how would this change the perception of Ann's behavior by others? I'm not real sure what your point here is. I am an Ann supporter, but I do believe she is at least a supporter of a homophobic platform, at least as in how I would define homophobia...

Anyway, I posted my definition here in this thread. No reason to re-write to keep it simple...