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Old 01-02-2018, 01:19 PM #1
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I don't call transwomen he or transmen she. But I do have issues occasionally (India was one of those ones actually) where my brain just cannot help seeing a male merson, and as such, I use he by mistake.

And yes, other peoples reactions to you could well make you feel suicidal I guess. But dismissing any other reason is a bit silly.

And its not research from the 50s at all. It specifically says where its from

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Between 2012 and 2015, 300 young transgender women were enrolled in Project LifeSkills, an ongoing multisite trial in Chicago, Illinois (51%), and Boston, Massachusetts (49%), testing the efficacy of a culturally tailored, empowerment-based, and group-delivered HIV prevention intervention aimed at reducing youths’ risk for HIV acquisition and transmission.
I guess you didn't read it and just want to dismiss any possibility that there are other mental health issues going on at the same time in many many trans people, for some reason.

Much much more research needs to go into the whole thing. issue it, research is deemed transphobic. And asking questions is deemed transphobic. And any medical intervention besides surgery and hormones is deemed gatekeeping.
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I don't call transwomen he or transmen she. But I do have issues occasionally (India was one of those ones actually) where my brain just cannot help seeing a male merson, and as such, I use he by mistake.

And yes, other peoples reactions to you could well make you feel suicidal I guess. But dismissing any other reason is a bit silly.

And its not research from the 50s at all. It specifically says where its from



I guess you didn't read it and just want to dismiss any possibility that there are other mental health issues going on at the same time in many many trans people, for some reason.

Much much more research needs to go into the whole thing. issue it, research is deemed transphobic. And asking questions is deemed transphobic. And any medical intervention besides surgery and hormones is deemed gatekeeping.
You find what you seek on the internet, in terms of studies. We could play tennis all day. I’ll stick with what the accepted medical view is around the globe, from people who know a good study from a bad one. To be blunt. - it’s clear you do not have respect for transgender people, or take them seriously. So no point in exchanging huff and puff counter arguments.

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You find what you seek on the internet, in terms of studies. We could play tennis all day. I’ll stick with what the accepted medical view is around the globe, from people who know a good study from a bad one. To be blunt. - it’s clear you do not have respect for transgender people, or take them seriously. So no point in exchanging huff and puff counter arguments.
You can think whatever you like. I have a transsexual woman in my family ffs. I just think there obviously needs to be a hell of a lot more research than there is, especially with so many kids these days identifying as trans.

To be clear, I am not saying SRS should not be an option. I am saying proper research needs to go into the whole thing. And yes, research needs to be done on the growing number of detransitioners too.

I also think for the good of transsexual people, they need to be known as transsexual, not transgender. As the transgender group encompasses so many different groups, fetishists and the likes. I don't see why transsexual people should be associated with crossdressers and drag queens and the likes, as they are nothing alike.

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You can think whatever you like. I have a transsexual woman in my family ffs. I just think there obviously needs to be a hell of a lot more research than there is, especially with so many kids these days identifying as trans.

To be clear, I am not saying SRS should not be an option. I am saying proper research needs to go into the whole thing. And yes, research needs to be done on the growing number of detransitioners too.

I also think for the good of transsexual people, they need to be known as transsexual, not transgender. As the transgender group encompasses so many different groups, fetishists and the likes. I don't see why transsexual people should be associated with crossdressers and drag queens and the likes, as they are nothing alike.
Think you make some good points ❤️
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