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Old 19-02-2018, 05:23 PM #1
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Wow. Iceland is picking a fight with two politically influential religions.
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Wow. Iceland is picking a fight with two politically influential religions.
if their defense is "coz God told us to"

I think Iceland have very little to worry about
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if their defense is "coz God told us to"

I think Iceland have very little to worry about
very optimistic of you, the leathery one
coz yeah, religions are famous for not kicking up the fuss (not)

the only reason why Iceland may get away with it it's because it's small with small population and not many orthodox Muslims and Jews.
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very optimistic of you, the leathery one
coz yeah, religions are famous for not kicking up the fuss (not)

the only reason why Iceland may get away with it it's because it's small with small population and not many orthodox Muslims and Jews.
Denmark also did this
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where does it say that?
Reports say Iceland will be the first in Europe
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where does it say that?
Reports say Iceland will be the first in Europe

i just meant they are on the same page

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b08052400ee6b3
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I read somewhere that somewhere in the high 90's% of Icelanders don't believe in God so I doubt they're bothered
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I read somewhere that somewhere in the high 90's% of Icelanders don't believe in God so I doubt they're bothered
I didn't actually know that , but it's not just religious reasons for having it done as some think it's "more hygienic" to have it done aswell .

Plenty of non religious people have it done for those silly hygiene reasons and because of cosmetic or medical reasons .
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I read somewhere that somewhere in the high 90's% of Icelanders don't believe in God so I doubt they're bothered
Agreed. I said in another post that they may get away with it because of their small population with few orthodox Muslims and Jews.
But those religions will kick up the fuss about it internationally. If you google news you'll see the battle has started. They talk about the ban as a sign of antisemitism and islamophobia, attack on religion and attempt to extinguish Jewish and Muslim life in Iceland. It's all quite hysterical (read below where they cite that the procedure was banned by the Nazis). Iceland is small but they know very well this law could become a precedent and an example for other countries esp. in Europe, to follow suit. And so they want to, erm, nip it in the bud.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/circum...-leaders-warn/
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Scandinavian Jews say outlawing religious ritual 'will guarantee' that no community is established there

The leaders of the Jewish communities of four Nordic countries said that a bill proposing to ban nonmedical circumcision in Iceland “will guarantee” that no Jewish community is established there.

The presidents of the umbrella groups of Jewish communities in Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland issued the unusual warning Tuesday in an open letter to all Icelandic lawmakers in reaction to the submission last month of a bill proposing to ban all nonmedical circumcision of boys younger than 18 in Iceland, a Scandinavian island nation of some 300,000 people with a few hundred Jews and Muslims.

Lawmakers from four parties with 46 percent of the seats in parliament, including the ruling party, co-authored the bill.

If passed, “Iceland would be the only country to ban one of the most central, if not the most central rite in the Jewish tradition in modern times,” wrote Aron Verständig, Dan Rosenberg-Asmussen, Ervin Kohn and Yaron Nadbornik in the letter.

Referencing the Nazi prohibition on brit milah, Jewish ritual circumcision, they noted: “It would not be the first time in the long tradition of the Jewish people. Throughout history, more than one oppressive regime has tried to suppress our people and eradicate Judaism by prohibiting our religious practices.”

Iceland, they added, does not have an organized Jewish community today.

Iceland is slated this year to receive its first resident rabbi in decades.

The open letter might be perceived as meddling in Iceland’s internal affairs, the co-authors conceded.

And why should we care? The reason is that you are about to attack Judaism in a way that concerns Jews all over the world,” they wrote.

The Nordic Jewish community leaders urged the Icelandic lawmakers to follow Norway’s 2015 legislation on nonmedical circumcision, which introduced regulation while ensuring the custom’s legality under certain terms.

In Europe, circumcision is under attack from right-wing politicians who view it as a foreign import whose proliferation is often associated mostly with Muslim immigration. And it is also opposed by left-wing liberals and atheists who denounce it as a primitive form of child abuse.
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