[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What issues... The antisemitic issue or the IRA issue?

They were not dismissed by myself they were addressed.

You do dismiss them, especially our fairly long time 'debates' about his IRA sympathies. Your conclusion is always 'He didn't do anything wrong then and he hasn't done anything wrong now'. These are your actual words.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by jet

You do dismiss them, especially our fairly long time 'debates' about his IRA sympathies. Your conclusion is always 'He didn't do anything wrong then and he hasn't done anything wrong now'. These are your actual words.

"The IRA are bad but don't forget about [other bad group no-one supports]"

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

You do dismiss them, especially our fairly long time 'debates' about his IRA sympathies. Your conclusion is always 'He didn't do anything wrong then and he hasn't done anything wrong now'. These are your actual words.

I haven't dismissed your opinion though I just don't agree with it, that's the nature of debate isn't it you state your opinion I state mine... Whatever you or maru think I have the right to form my own stance on any given topic.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I haven't dismissed your opinion though I just don't agree with it, that's the nature of debate isn't it you state your opinion I state mine... Whatever you or maru think I have the right to form my own stance on any given topic.

Disagreeing with opinions is fine obviously, but you also dismiss evidence and even facts when it comes to Corbyn.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Disagreeing with opinions is fine obviously, but you also dismiss evidence and even facts when it comes to Corbyn.

I have addressed every 'fact' you put in front of me. I'm not going to be railroaded into agreeing with you Jet. I have my own mind thank you.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I have addressed every 'fact' you put in front of me. I'm not going to be railroaded into agreeing with you Jet. I have my own mind thank you.

You have far from addressed every fact. You just say it is all supposition and he hasn't done anything wrong when you are confronted with the FACTS that he obviously HAS done plenty wrong.
It's not a question of railroading anyone - I post my opinion but also links to facts which back up my opinion and anyone is entitled to disregard those facts as they wish - and you do.
I don't ask for your agreement as I don't need it. I'll continue to post my opinions and facts about Corbyn's shameful behaviour and connections when and if I please and its no skin off my nose if you brush it aside as nonsense. Carry on conversing with me as you wish or ignore...

[MTVN]

Jeremy Corbyn faces a damaging new anti-semitism scandal as a bombshell dossier reveals the full extent of anti-Jewish, violent and abusive comments on Facebook groups mobilising his most fervent supporters.

Twelve senior staff working for the Labour leader and the shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, are members of groups containing anti-semitic and violent comments, including praise for Adolf Hitler and threats to kill Theresa May, the prime minister.

The most*comprehensive investigation*conducted into 20 of the biggest pro-Corbyn Facebook groups — numbering 400,000 members — found routine attacks on Jewish people, including Holocaust denial.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...tory-kkh55kpgx

Oh dear oh dear

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Jeremy Corbyn faces a damaging new anti-semitism scandal as a bombshell dossier reveals the full extent of anti-Jewish, violent and abusive comments on Facebook groups mobilising his most fervent supporters.

Twelve senior staff working for the Labour leader and the shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, are members of groups containing anti-semitic and violent comments, including praise for Adolf Hitler and threats to kill Theresa May, the prime minister.

The most*comprehensive investigation*conducted into 20 of the biggest pro-Corbyn Facebook groups — numbering 400,000 members — found routine attacks on Jewish people, including Holocaust denial.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...tory-kkh55kpgx

Oh dear oh dear

Another - EXPLOSIVE - and informative post. These are brilliant, keep 'em coming, and maybe - just maybe - even the most fanatical of Corbynistas will be FORCED to concede that their 'Teflon Saint' needs to GO.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Jeremy Corbyn faces a damaging new anti-semitism scandal as a bombshell dossier reveals the full extent of anti-Jewish, violent and abusive comments on Facebook groups mobilising his most fervent supporters.

Twelve senior staff working for the Labour leader and the shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, are members of groups containing anti-semitic and violent comments, including praise for Adolf Hitler and threats to kill Theresa May, the prime minister.

The most*comprehensive investigation*conducted into 20 of the biggest pro-Corbyn Facebook groups — numbering 400,000 members — found routine attacks on Jewish people, including Holocaust denial.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...tory-kkh55kpgx

Oh dear oh dear

See.. again guilt by association, someone starts a pro Corbyn FB group open to the public and someone makes a comment... In what universe could that be attributed to corbyn? I'm sorry I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone at the moment there is a distinct lack of objectivity around at the moment of which this is a prime example.

Again the very real and pertinent issue of antisemitism has been politicised ... that as I've said is exploitative and wrong, yet this media spun right wing runaway train is full steam ahead with it.

It's a last ditch desperate attempt to get the establishment and the media gravy train back on track and ditch a left leaning Labour leader.
Why is this not apparent?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Jeremy Corbyn faces a damaging new anti-semitism scandal as a bombshell dossier reveals the full extent of anti-Jewish, violent and abusive comments on Facebook groups mobilising his most fervent supporters.

Twelve senior staff working for the Labour leader and the shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, are members of groups containing anti-semitic and violent comments, including praise for Adolf Hitler and threats to kill Theresa May, the prime minister.

The most*comprehensive investigation*conducted into 20 of the biggest pro-Corbyn Facebook groups — numbering 400,000 members — found routine attacks on Jewish people, including Holocaust denial.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...tory-kkh55kpgx

Oh dear oh dear

Just when you think it can't get any worse for Corbyn, it sinks like the titanic!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

You have far from addressed every fact. You just say it is all supposition and he hasn't done anything wrong when you are confronted with the FACTS that he obviously HAS done plenty wrong.
It's not a question of railroading anyone - I post my opinion but also links to facts which back up my opinion and anyone is entitled to disregard those facts as they wish - and you do.
I don't ask for your agreement as I don't need it. I'll continue to post my opinions and facts about Corbyn's shameful behaviour and connections when and if I please and its no skin off my nose if you brush it aside as nonsense. Carry on conversing with me as you wish or ignore...

Guilt by association, personally in any of the scenarios you put forward what has he done?
I have never suggested you can't post your opinions, I only objected to the suggestion I have dismissed anything you said... I haven't. I just don't happen to agree wich is not uncommon in a debate is it?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Guilt by association, personally in any of the scenarios you put forward what has he done?
I have never suggested you can't post your opinions, I only objected to the suggestion I have dismissed anything you said... I haven't. I just don't happen to agree wich is not uncommon in a debate is it?

I rest my case.
It's pointless to debate with someone who denies any wrongdoing by Saint Jeremy as their default setting.