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It’s like they see the polls and purposely do the opposite of what the public want to spite us
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Gove or Hunt then, I guess...
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Weird flip-flopping in the votes. Can only imagine the greasy, self-serving half-promises being made behind the scenes to turn people over from Stewart to Javid. If you can change your mind overnight why are you even voting?
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Tomorrow there are 2 sets of votes
so we get down to the Final 2.
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Seems like Rory is a pretty bad loser too listening to his interview after the result
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It's interesting there's no clear block vote move either from those who supported Raab or those who left Stewart. I think a lot of things Rory has said recently have crossed the line from being a maverick contender to being a bit deluded and also a bit too destructive. He almost sounded like a Labour MP at times last night
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It's interesting there's no clear block vote move either from those who supported Raab or those who left Stewart. I think a lot of things Rory has said recently have crossed the line from being a maverick contender to being a bit deluded and also a bit too destructive. He almost sounded like a Labour MP at times last night
yeah, he was similar in his interview tonight. I think as these are all senior people left they have done a deal for cabinet positions and that's driving things more than anything else.
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Boris Johnson: 143 votes (+17)
Jeremy Hunt: 54 (+10)
Michael Gove: 51 (+10)
Sajid Javid: 38 (+5)

Rory Stewart: 27 (-10)


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Rory could have saved the tories

They are doomed now and good riddance, horribly archaic party
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For a brief moment in this election.
Although I was like others certain Johnson was going to unbelievably end up PM of the, ( at present anyway), UK.

With Rory in the mix, I thought the Conservatives might just be starting to look forward.
To dismiss the old failed guard and look at fresh fields.

Clearly not.
On the backbenches, hopefully Rory wields the same problems for Johnson, that Johnson created for Theresa May.

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Rory great as ever on Peston tonight.
Very fair, realised he hadn't performed at his best in the BBC programme.

His points all valid.

A big loss but he wouldn't have won this time anyway.
He re-stated he wouldn't serve in a Johnson cabinet.
I find that commendable.

On the backbenches, he could actually be one of the real power brokers.

I hold great respect for Rory.
Clearly integrity this time, is a loser as to the Conservative party.

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Rory great as ever on Peston tonight.
Very fair, realised he hadn't performed at his best in the BBC programme.

His points all valid.

A big loss but he wouldn't have won this time anyway.
He re-stated he wouldn't serve in a Johnson cabinet.
I find that commendable.

On the backbenches, he could actually be one of the real power brokers.

I hold great respect for Rory.
Clearly integrity this time, is a loser as to the Conservative party.
It was our wishful thinking to expect a sensible man to be voted for by a party that lost sense of reality
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I mean, when you look at the past decade, the Tory party has been an absolute shambles. They had one year of having a majority in parliament, and in that one year, they damaged the country beyond repair. I can't wait to see them out of power.
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This. Can you imagine Trump and Boris together ... 2 idiots who shouldn't be allowed out on their own most of the time. Rubbing their fat hands together in glee. If Spitting Image was still on our screens they'd have a field day with the pair of those idiots. Tweedledum and Tweedledee.
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This. Can you imagine Trump and Boris together ... 2 idiots who shouldn't be allowed out on their own most of the time. Rubbing their fat hands together in glee. If Spitting Image was still on our screens they'd have a field day with the pair of those idiots. Tweedledum and Tweedledee.

Great post Kate.

Sadly fully reflective too in a way of a Party actually in government at the time electing the worst possible candidate, insulting the vast majority of the UK possibly, who have found that man's created clown's actions, irritating, insulting and offensive.

One can hope, and I for one do, that this divisive, false, backstabbing turncoat is brought down and soon, by his brexit deceit and the same problems that hounded his predecessor.

If any Conservative really believes, this self styled buffoon will bring back Lib Dem or Labour voters.
They are very badly deluded.

The only votes he could gain are the more extreme elements of the Brexit party.
It won't be enough to get him an election win.

If he sees any bounce in polling once leader.
He'd do well to remember the imaginary bounce the polls said were there for Theresa May.
All having her 14% to over 20% ahead of Labour.
Which in polling day turned out to be around only 2%

July is a sad time for the whole of the UK, that this divisive and untrustworthy as to his word figure, is to be foisted on all the UK by a party and government, who should have been determined to put in place someone to unite the Nation not further likely divide it.

Says everything about the present Conservative party.

How I now wish Labour would now guarantee a further referendum.
I was against it but I have come to the view it would be desirable after the farce and this hardluner now being elected.
I also wish Labour would promise to look at proportional representation for elections too.

Anyway great post from you Kate.
I guess we can hope the dangerous element across the Atlantic may get chucked out next year too.

Such a strong and good opportunity to show they really cared about the whole of the UK, by the present Conservative party, has been trashed completely.
They've chosen to likely further divide than unite.
That is desperately sad at this time.
Also however one of the strongest irresponsible and incompetent choices ever as leader and PM.
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A caller on LBC last night made an interesting point - with Hunt leading the Tories, people will be less likely to vote for their local Tory MP. This makes me want Gove a little more, though there is plenty of time for anyone in the position to turn around the general public's opinion of them.

(both came off pretty well in their LBC interviews)
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No matter who wins, they are not going to get past October without being fatally wounded. If the tories were going to get themselves out of the mess, someone would have come out with a brand new, fresh strategy. All of them, including Rory, just didn't deliver anything fresh. That's the problem in UK politics at the moment, across the board. It's completely stale
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No matter who wins, they are not going to get past October without being fatally wounded. If the tories were going to get themselves out of the mess, someone would have come out with a brand new, fresh strategy. All of them, including Rory, just didn't deliver anything fresh. That's the problem in UK politics at the moment, across the board. It's completely stale
Depends what you're referring to. Rory was pretty "New Labour", which no-one else is - most of the Tories are fairly standard Conservatives, while most of the Labour frontbenchers are too far left.
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Yes Javid is now out.

Next we have is 6PM
for the Final 2.
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The elephant in the room is that Boris could basically pick his preferred opponent by lending enough votes to someone. I think he'll try and knock Gove out
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