[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I did not take or make the poll

but it was clear as day if you watched it

I'm obviously not going to watch it because I quite value my down-time but to be fair, if nothing else, Farage does spin a good oratory yarn and we have an awful lot of politicians who can't soapbox to save their lives these days. Say what you will about her - Wee Nic was good in a rap battle as well. And Boris. Slim pickings these days.

[Livia]

I noticed when Nigel was speaking the BBC kept putting the camera on a man in the audience shaking his head. They just can't be impartial.

[Liam-]

The SNP guy very clearly dog walked everyone else on that stage, fantasists just enjoy pretending that Farage is something special

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The SNP guy very clearly dog walked everyone else on that stage, fantasists just enjoy pretending that Farage is something special

he really did not and gave off serial killer vibes

a very angry man

[Crimson Dynamo]

The BBC audience could hardly bring itself to cheer on Nigel Farage



Nigel Farage’s Reform party currently polls as the third largest, well ahead of the Lib Dems and Greens, and just a smidgen behind the governing Tories. So why has the BBC placed him on the far left edge of tonight’s debate line up, like he doesn’t matter? The BBC claims party leaders drew lots for their positioning. Fair enough, but what a silly way to format an important election broadcast moment.

In the end, with Penny Mordaunt for the Government also marginalised out on the far right, the positioning just looked bizarre. Surely it would be better if the leaders stood in terms of their polling? That would have Labour, Reform and the Tories in the middle.

And that brings us to the audience, which at times appeared not to include a single Reform supporter, willing to applaud Farage. Given that some polls say that nearly one in five voters are planning to back Reform, this relative absence of support seemed odd too.

Meanwhile, despite the debate taking place in England, the leaders of the nationalist SNP and Plaid Cymru, from Scotland and Wales, were getting plenty of audience encouragement. Where on earth did tonight’s audience come from? We can forgive such sentiment with Have I got News For You, but this is slightly more serious.

Farage, of course, was not disturbed by these oddities, which isn’t surprising as he’s faced similar treatment throughout his career. He knows full well that it’s the watching TV audience that really counts, not the handful of people willing to give up their Friday evening to sit in a TV studio.

But given that the BBC has had to apologise in the last few days after one of its newsreaders inexcusably broke its code of impartiality and described Farage as using “customary inflammatory language”, we should keep our eyes and ears open for how our national broadcaster chooses to present politicians.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-nigel-farage/

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The BBC audience could hardly bring itself to cheer on Nigel Farage



Nigel Farage’s Reform party currently polls as the third largest, well ahead of the Lib Dems and Greens, and just a smidgen behind the governing Tories. So why has the BBC placed him on the far left edge of tonight’s debate line up, like he doesn’t matter? The BBC claims party leaders drew lots for their positioning. Fair enough, but what a silly way to format an important election broadcast moment.

In the end, with Penny Mordaunt for the Government also marginalised out on the far right, the positioning just looked bizarre. Surely it would be better if the leaders stood in terms of their polling? That would have Labour, Reform and the Tories in the middle.

And that brings us to the audience, which at times appeared not to include a single Reform supporter, willing to applaud Farage. Given that some polls say that nearly one in five voters are planning to back Reform, this relative absence of support seemed odd too.

Meanwhile, despite the debate taking place in England, the leaders of the nationalist SNP and Plaid Cymru, from Scotland and Wales, were getting plenty of audience encouragement. Where on earth did tonight’s audience come from? We can forgive such sentiment with Have I got News For You, but this is slightly more serious.

Farage, of course, was not disturbed by these oddities, which isn’t surprising as he’s faced similar treatment throughout his career. He knows full well that it’s the watching TV audience that really counts, not the handful of people willing to give up their Friday evening to sit in a TV studio.

But given that the BBC has had to apologise in the last few days after one of its newsreaders inexcusably broke its code of impartiality and described Farage as using “customary inflammatory language”, we should keep our eyes and ears open for how our national broadcaster chooses to present politicians.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-nigel-farage/

Yes, the optics were a bit bizarre. I don't like these multi leader format debates. No one gets long enough to explain themselves and it becomes about who's got the best one liners.

[Beso]

Imagine the scenes if they become the opposition.

[joeysteele]

How the awful Green Party co-leader was above the others is a surprise.
In my view, Carla Denyer and that new really terrible Plaid Cymru leader were the worst 2 all through for me.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

How the awful Green Party co-leader was above the others is a surprise.
In my view, Carla Denyer and that new really terrible Plaid Cymru leader were the worst 2 all through for me.

What did you think of Rayner and Mordant?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What did you think of Rayner and Mordant?

I used to see Mordaunt as a future leader of the Cons.
Not sure now after last night, as she really wasn't herself last night and even looked like she didn't want to be there.
Perhaps she was more furious at Sunak and D Day issue, than she was able to get said what she'd really like to on.

Raynor is noted for saying what she thinks.
I felt she was well below her usual flow on things last night.
I was disappointed.
However in the more lively clash with Mordaunt she really got Mordaunt mad, when Mordaunt admitted they'd put tax up to its highest in 70 years.
I thought Mordaunt was going to explode.

I just think these debates are more pointless.
The question originally asked, gets easily discarded.
Very little is learned by those viewing.
There must be better ways to campaign than this really.

Although he annoys me, Farage does stick to the question and does entertain.
I kept thinking all through just what would he have liked to say uncensored about the whole bunch there last night.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I used to see Mordaunt as a future leader of the Cons.
Not sure now after last night, as she really wasn't herself last night and even looked like she didn't want to be there.
Perhaps she was more furious at Sunak and D Day issue, than she was able to get said what she'd really like to on.

Raynor is noted for saying what she thinks.
I felt she was well below her usual flow on things last night.
I was disappointed.
However in the more lively clash with Mordaunt she really got Mordaunt mad, when Mordaunt admitted they'd put tax up to its highest in 70 years.
I thought Mordaunt was going to explode.

.

nailed it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel's latest Clacton leaflet

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel in Clacton

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I used to see Mordaunt as a future leader of the Cons.
Not sure now after last night, as she really wasn't herself last night and even looked like she didn't want to be there.
Perhaps she was more furious at Sunak and D Day issue, than she was able to get said what she'd really like to on.

Raynor is noted for saying what she thinks.
I felt she was well below her usual flow on things last night.
I was disappointed.
However in the more lively clash with Mordaunt she really got Mordaunt mad, when Mordaunt admitted they'd put tax up to its highest in 70 years.
I thought Mordaunt was going to explode.

I just think these debates are more pointless.
The question originally asked, gets easily discarded.
Very little is learned by those viewing.
There must be better ways to campaign than this really.

Although he annoys me, Farage does stick to the question and does entertain.
I kept thinking all through just what would he have liked to say uncensored about the whole bunch there last night.

Rayner looked weak and uncertain every time PennyM went for her ..

Penny had her number


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Rayner looked weak and uncertain every time PennyM went for her ..

Penny had her number


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Have to disagree,sorry.
Mordaunt was extremely poor as to how she really can be.

Plus Raynor floored her on the tax issue as I said.
All through Mordaunt got really nowhere.

Neither lit the debate up on anything though.
It was really poor all through.

[Zizu]

Who was the tiny , elf/ pixie looking one ?

She was just an irritant


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Who was the tiny , elf/ pixie looking one ?

She was just an irritant


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The Green Party's co-leader Carla Denyer.
I think you may be referring to there.
Awful she is .

[bots]

i'm really not sure why anyone watched it. It seems like a wasted hour or whatever that no-one can get back

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm really not sure why anyone watched it. It seems like a wasted hour or whatever that no-one can get back

bit like woke doctor who

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

bit like woke doctor who

You'd have lived last weeks episode if you had the media literacy to understand it LT. It was baffling anti-woke. But done so subversively that the woke people think it was woke. Fascinating really.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You'd have lived last weeks episode if you had the media literacy to understand it LT. It was baffling anti-woke. But done so subversively that the woke people think it was woke. Fascinating really.

I guess that excuses you from watching such drivel

no one is buying that sausage

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

bit like woke doctor who

Doctor Who after Matt Smith left.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Doctor Who after Matt Smith left.

100% agree.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm really not sure why anyone watched it. It seems like a wasted hour or whatever that no-one can get back

Why bother with it. Not too keen on giving Faridge any more air and wouldn't vote for any of the others.

[user104658]

But yes there's no point watching these debates or reading any manifesto. Complete works of fiction, every time.