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This mid-life crisis era you are going through is giving all of us low-energy
You've overshared waaay too much on here to be making this comment Trumpet .
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I’m strictly an Independent SB. I’m here most days, reading, but unlike you I don’t need constant attention being a trolling Tibb smartass to justify my existence.
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ouch!
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I’m strictly an Independent SB. I’m here most days, reading, but unlike you I don’t need constant attention being a trolling Tibb smartass to justify my existence.
I know, it's creepy. You pop up to either attack Meghan Markle, or defend LT. Obsessed with princesses.

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I'd have a peep at your own post count sir
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In Clacton
the fella originally standing for Reform UK
is now stranding as an independent.


Waste of his money..................


Ref: Times Radio Newspaper review Live
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Farage wins BBC election debate, snap poll finds

Nigel Farage won Friday night’s seven-way BBC election debate, according to a
poll.

A snap poll of 1,031 voters by More in Common found most thought Mr Farage
won the debate, followed by Angela Rayner. Mr Farage received 25 per cent of
the vote while Ms Rayner received 19 per cent.

The Green Party’s Carla Denyer was the third most popular with 11 per cent,
Stephen Flynn for SNP received 10 per cent and Penny Mordaunt, the leader of
the House of Commons, took 7 per cent of the vote. Daisy Cooper, the deputy
leader of the Liberal Democrats and Plaid Cymru’s Rhun ap Iorwerth took 5 per
cent and 2 per cent respectively.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...e-wins-debate/

he walked it to be fair

Even with a very left-wing audience
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Winning a debate in terms of a popularity-contest poll has nothing to do with the actual quality of the debate, come on now LT, you could take the same poll before a word was spoken and get the same result.

I mean by the metric of "polling the audience", YOU would win most "debates" you're in on TiBB. That's ludicrous!

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I noticed when Nigel was speaking the BBC kept putting the camera on a man in the audience shaking his head. They just can't be impartial.
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Winning a debate in terms of a popularity-contest poll has nothing to do with the actual quality of the debate, come on now LT, you could take the same poll before a word was spoken and get the same result.

I mean by the metric of "polling the audience", YOU would win most "debates" you're in on TiBB. That's ludicrous!
I did not take or make the poll

but it was clear as day if you watched it
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I did not take or make the poll

but it was clear as day if you watched it
I'm obviously not going to watch it because I quite value my down-time but to be fair, if nothing else, Farage does spin a good oratory yarn and we have an awful lot of politicians who can't soapbox to save their lives these days. Say what you will about her - Wee Nic was good in a rap battle as well. And Boris. Slim pickings these days.
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The SNP guy very clearly dog walked everyone else on that stage, fantasists just enjoy pretending that Farage is something special
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The SNP guy very clearly dog walked everyone else on that stage, fantasists just enjoy pretending that Farage is something special
he really did not and gave off serial killer vibes

a very angry man
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The BBC audience could hardly bring itself to cheer on Nigel Farage



Nigel Farage’s Reform party currently polls as the third largest, well ahead of the Lib Dems and Greens, and just a smidgen behind the governing Tories. So why has the BBC placed him on the far left edge of tonight’s debate line up, like he doesn’t matter? The BBC claims party leaders drew lots for their positioning. Fair enough, but what a silly way to format an important election broadcast moment.

In the end, with Penny Mordaunt for the Government also marginalised out on the far right, the positioning just looked bizarre. Surely it would be better if the leaders stood in terms of their polling? That would have Labour, Reform and the Tories in the middle.

And that brings us to the audience, which at times appeared not to include a single Reform supporter, willing to applaud Farage. Given that some polls say that nearly one in five voters are planning to back Reform, this relative absence of support seemed odd too.

Meanwhile, despite the debate taking place in England, the leaders of the nationalist SNP and Plaid Cymru, from Scotland and Wales, were getting plenty of audience encouragement. Where on earth did tonight’s audience come from? We can forgive such sentiment with Have I got News For You, but this is slightly more serious.

Farage, of course, was not disturbed by these oddities, which isn’t surprising as he’s faced similar treatment throughout his career. He knows full well that it’s the watching TV audience that really counts, not the handful of people willing to give up their Friday evening to sit in a TV studio.

But given that the BBC has had to apologise in the last few days after one of its newsreaders inexcusably broke its code of impartiality and described Farage as using “customary inflammatory language”, we should keep our eyes and ears open for how our national broadcaster chooses to present politicians.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-nigel-farage/
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The BBC audience could hardly bring itself to cheer on Nigel Farage



Nigel Farage’s Reform party currently polls as the third largest, well ahead of the Lib Dems and Greens, and just a smidgen behind the governing Tories. So why has the BBC placed him on the far left edge of tonight’s debate line up, like he doesn’t matter? The BBC claims party leaders drew lots for their positioning. Fair enough, but what a silly way to format an important election broadcast moment.

In the end, with Penny Mordaunt for the Government also marginalised out on the far right, the positioning just looked bizarre. Surely it would be better if the leaders stood in terms of their polling? That would have Labour, Reform and the Tories in the middle.

And that brings us to the audience, which at times appeared not to include a single Reform supporter, willing to applaud Farage. Given that some polls say that nearly one in five voters are planning to back Reform, this relative absence of support seemed odd too.

Meanwhile, despite the debate taking place in England, the leaders of the nationalist SNP and Plaid Cymru, from Scotland and Wales, were getting plenty of audience encouragement. Where on earth did tonight’s audience come from? We can forgive such sentiment with Have I got News For You, but this is slightly more serious.

Farage, of course, was not disturbed by these oddities, which isn’t surprising as he’s faced similar treatment throughout his career. He knows full well that it’s the watching TV audience that really counts, not the handful of people willing to give up their Friday evening to sit in a TV studio.

But given that the BBC has had to apologise in the last few days after one of its newsreaders inexcusably broke its code of impartiality and described Farage as using “customary inflammatory language”, we should keep our eyes and ears open for how our national broadcaster chooses to present politicians.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-nigel-farage/
Yes, the optics were a bit bizarre. I don't like these multi leader format debates. No one gets long enough to explain themselves and it becomes about who's got the best one liners.
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Farage wins BBC election debate, snap poll finds

Nigel Farage won Friday night’s seven-way BBC election debate, according to a
poll.

A snap poll of 1,031 voters by More in Common found most thought Mr Farage
won the debate, followed by Angela Rayner. Mr Farage received 25 per cent of
the vote while Ms Rayner received 19 per cent.

The Green Party’s Carla Denyer was the third most popular with 11 per cent,
Stephen Flynn for SNP received 10 per cent and Penny Mordaunt, the leader of
the House of Commons, took 7 per cent of the vote. Daisy Cooper, the deputy
leader of the Liberal Democrats and Plaid Cymru’s Rhun ap Iorwerth took 5 per
cent and 2 per cent respectively.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...e-wins-debate/

he walked it to be fair

Even with a very left-wing audience
In the multi leader format I'd expect our Nige - Best PM we've never had/Mr Britain etc - to have the best one liners, so not surprised he had a good night. I must stress, I didn't watch it and have no plans to.
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Imagine the scenes if they become the opposition.
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How the awful Green Party co-leader was above the others is a surprise.
In my view, Carla Denyer and that new really terrible Plaid Cymru leader were the worst 2 all through for me.
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How the awful Green Party co-leader was above the others is a surprise.
In my view, Carla Denyer and that new really terrible Plaid Cymru leader were the worst 2 all through for me.
What did you think of Rayner and Mordant?
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Who was the tiny , elf/ pixie looking one ?

She was just an irritant


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What did you think of Rayner and Mordant?
I used to see Mordaunt as a future leader of the Cons.
Not sure now after last night, as she really wasn't herself last night and even looked like she didn't want to be there.
Perhaps she was more furious at Sunak and D Day issue, than she was able to get said what she'd really like to on.

Raynor is noted for saying what she thinks.
I felt she was well below her usual flow on things last night.
I was disappointed.
However in the more lively clash with Mordaunt she really got Mordaunt mad, when Mordaunt admitted they'd put tax up to its highest in 70 years.
I thought Mordaunt was going to explode.

I just think these debates are more pointless.
The question originally asked, gets easily discarded.
Very little is learned by those viewing.
There must be better ways to campaign than this really.

Although he annoys me, Farage does stick to the question and does entertain.
I kept thinking all through just what would he have liked to say uncensored about the whole bunch there last night.
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The Green Party's co-leader Carla Denyer.
I think you may be referring to there.
Awful she is .
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