[Livia]

Originally Posted by The Grinch

I guess you wouldn’t really noticed unless you were a big Ethan Hawkes fan or Uma fan.

Yeah... like, if someone was such a big Uma fan, they had them in their avi or something.............

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[The Grinch]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah... like, if someone was such a big Uma fan, they had them in their avi or something.............

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Omg yes I forgot she was your avatar. You fake fan!

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah... like, if someone was such a big Uma fan, they had them in their avi or something.............

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[bots]

Originally Posted by Livia

Did you know that Maya Hawke, who plays Robin, is the daughter of Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawke. Did everyone know this? It's come as brand new information to me...

i actually did know this, why wasn't it in the pub quiz

You can see Ulma's quirky personality once you know

[Tony Montana]

Finally finished it and what a solid first 4 episodes it's been. Episode 4 was peak TV. Those last 20 minutes were insane.

Spoiler:

I'm glad they brought back Kali/8. I know a lot of people hate her episode and consider it to be the worst episode of the show, but we needed some closure for her and this seems like the best time to bring her back. My theory is that the military are using her to hide them from Vecna and that she will play a big role in defeating him.

Will getting powers was by far the biggest jaw-dropper of the series. I didn't think anything could top Running up that Hill, but this has definitely did that.

[Shaun]

Re: the speculating who dies thing, I think it'll be less of a bloodbath than some think.

Spoiler:

Every series has indeed had deaths, but they've always largely been new characters who last less than a season (Bob, Barb, Chrissy, Eddie, Alexei).

Even with the chance to kill off a side character in these first four episodes like Karen or Ted, they still left it ambiguous and it looks likely that (at least) Karen will survive.

Now they've brought back Kai / 8, I could see her being used in this way... a familiar face, somewhat, sacrificed for the greater cause and another spurring point in Eleven unleashing her full rage and powers.

But as for the main cast... I really can't see anyone going aside from Steve or Will. Or of course Vecna.

It doesn't make thematic sense for them to end the series on a bum note, ie. "Vecna wins = everyone dies"... so assuming that the evil is defeated, I think it'll be with minimal main character deaths. I don't think any others of the core 6 friends will perish (Mike, Lucas, Dustin, Max or El) and of the older crew I can only really see Murray kamikaze-ing himself with his truck for the greater cause and dying a hero's death.

The one that confuses me the most from this first volume of the final season is: Steve. He's been steadily built up as this antihero, the former bully who had a massive redemption and became one of the show's most loved characters. However, in these first four episodes he is completely uncharacteristically an asshole: to Dustin (who it must be painfully obvious is going Through A Lot????), to Jonathan, to everyone really. I don't get why the writers have done this unless they're setting him up for a sudden heroic sacrifice in the last episodes.

I see Jonathan and Nancy getting their happy ending, Joyce and Hopper being endgame, and Erica terrorising the neighbourhood for teenage years that will make the Upside Down look like Chuck-E-Cheese's...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bots

i actually did know this, why wasn't it in the pub quiz

You can see Ulma's quirky personality once you know

Yeah, once you know it seems obvious.

Originally Posted by Tony Montana

Finally finished it and what a solid first 4 episodes it's been. Episode 4 was peak TV. Those last 20 minutes were insane.

Spoiler:

I'm glad they brought back Kali/8. I know a lot of people hate her episode and consider it to be the worst episode of the show, but we needed some closure for her and this seems like the best time to bring her back. My theory is that the military are using her to hide them from Vecna and that she will play a big role in defeating him.

Will getting powers was by far the biggest jaw-dropper of the series. I didn't think anything could top Running up that Hill, but this has definitely did that.

Agree with all of that, I liked 8's episode. Also, regarding Will...

Spoiler:

like seeing Uma in her daughter once you know, Vecna using Will and taking something from him, of course Will gets something in return... It's obvious, but only once you know

It's been a bloody fine series.

[bots]

there were some obvious bits of AI in that final 20 mins of the 4th episode where characters were replaced with AI. I'm not sure if I like that

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by bots

there were some obvious bits of AI in that final 20 mins of the 4th episode where characters were replaced with AI. I'm not sure if I like that

It’s been confirmed no AI was used.

[emseateng2014]

20 days till season 5 part 2

[bots]

Originally Posted by The Human Santapede

It’s been confirmed no AI was used.

It looked very AI generated, and the fact they had to say no AI was used means I wasn't alone in that thought. Whatever processing they used, suspended the realism for me

[Christmas Dynasnow]