[arista]

Yes Peace Plan

But Putin still wants his sections

But if they stop fighting - that will be good
time will tell


http://news.sky.com/story/1330813/uk...gree-ceasefire

[JoshBB]

They could seperate it into East & West Ukraine and let people decide which half they want to live on, easy as that tbh

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

They could seperate it into East & West Ukraine and let people decide which half they want to live on, easy as that tbh

But Ukraine says no to anything like that.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

They could seperate it into East & West Ukraine and let people decide which half they want to live on, easy as that tbh

yea, because that worked soooo well in Germany 50 years ago....

they should definitely build a wall between east and west too, right?

[the truth]

nato summit seemed to go swimmingly, they all looked well chilled at celtic manor and cardiff castle....deal announced on the golf course, for ukraine cease fire and nato alliance action plan involving some heavy artillery.....lets hope it actually helps find a peaceful solution....im afriad vlad needs to accept the USSR is no more and ukraine isnt his little play thing any more

[lostalex]

and Russia keeps saying the same thing, "we deny everything, prove it!" lol

Obama should adopt this strategy when we bomb the **** out of the Kremlin.

[Calderyon]

Putin allegedly said in a secret telephone call to Ukrainian prime minister (?) that he could invade and conquer the capitals of Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia in just two days, if he wanted to.

I think he also said in another call that he could invade Kiev in just two weeks.

Spoken like a true dictator, isn´t he. And i bet NATO liked that leaked comment.

[Calderyon]

And now Putin considers on getting Russia rid of Internet. I guess he wants Russia to be North Korea then.

[Novo]

CAIRNS—Russian President Vladimir Putin is set to take part in a summit of world leaders in Australia in November, despite ongoing tensions between Russia and the West over the crisis in Ukraine.

The Australian government, which currently holds the presidency of the Group of 20 industrial and developing nations, said it received "emphatic" approval from the member countries to extend an invitation to Russia.

"It isn't Australia's decision, it is a decision taken by all the members of the G-20," said Australian Treasurer Joe Hockey at the start of a meeting between the Group's finance ministers in Cairns, a city in Australia's northeast. "[Russia's] a member of the G-20, and we expect that they will attend the G-20 meeting," he added.

Looks like he will be enjoying some well deserved sunshine in Brisbane

[MTVN]

Speaking at a symposium near the Brandenburg Gate yesterday morning, former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev warned that the world was “on the brink of a new cold war” and strongly criticised the west for having sown the seeds of the current crisis by mishandling the fallout from the collapse of the iron curtain.

“Instead of building new mechanisms and institutions of European security and pursuing a major demilitarisation of European politics … the west, and particularly the United States, declared victory in the cold war,” said the man behind the Soviet Union’s glasnost and perestroika reforms.

“Euphoria and triumphalism went to the heads of western leaders. Taking advantage of Russia’s weakening and the lack of a counterweight, they claimed monopoly leadership and domination in the world.”

The enlargement of Nato, Kosovo, missile defence plans and wars in the Middle East had led to a “collapse of trust”, said Gorbachev, now 83. “To put it metaphorically, a blister has now turned into a bloody, festering wound.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...th-anniversary

He's spot on, stupid how the narrative that the West 'won' the cold war has become so accepted