[Roy Mars III]

So glad Obama won, it was actually a scary thought of Romney as president. I wasn't even against some of his economic ideas, but his foreign policy and his stance on things like gay marriage and abortion were actually scary.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

So glad Obama won, it was actually a scary thought of Romney as president. I wasn't even against some of his economic ideas, but his foreign policy and his stance on things like gay marriage and abortion were actually scary.

I disagree. I love obama , 1) because hes a thoroughly good person 2) he actually makes sense and hasjoined up thinking unlike the mass majority of people in dumbed down times (we are stupider per head in the UK than the US) 3) obama isnot trying to inflame wars, bush and romney were 4) obama is reducing the military to invest more at home, thank God. the US military is way too big 5) the abortion issue will never go away. the debate over it was pathetically shallow, it just didnt get past name calling. the whole thing needs to be run far better, with more regulation, more safe guards, more support and more options made available to mothers and more input from fathers too. the UK has gone too liberal and you end up with 191000 abortions a year the highest level per head on the planet. 6) gay marriage is a trivial matter. gay people in the US have all the rights, time to move on and live their lives. disabled rights and rightsof elderly people must be looked at far better. 7) going after the corporate crooks, regulating them and creating jobs and wealth for the working/middle classes is now obamas main agenda, he will do this way better than romney. romeny simply wasnt much better than bush on the economy, wed have seen more elitist control and another crash in 10 years. obamas building long term economic growth , spreading wealth from the grass roots up. his plan will last.

8) stem cell research is massive too.

9)lastly healthcare was by miles and miles and miles and miles the biggest most important issue. nearly all other issues were trivial. 50 million americans will now receive healthcare treatment as will their children and their childrens children. this is his greatest achievement, something no president has ever achieved.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

I disagree. I love obama , 1) because hes a thoroughly good person 2) he actually makes sense and hasjoined up thinking unlike the mass majority of people in dumbed down times (we are stupider per head in the UK than the US) 3) obama isnot trying to inflame wars, bush and romney were 4) obama is reducing the military to invest more at home, thank God. the US military is way too big 5) the abortion issue will never go away. the debate over it was pathetically shallow, it just didnt get past name calling. the whole thing needs to be run far better, with more regulation, more safe guards, more support and more options made available to mothers and more input from fathers too. the UK has gone too liberal and you end up with 191000 abortions a year the highest level per head on the planet. 6) gay marriage is a trivial matter. gay people in the US have all the rights, time to move on and live their lives. disabled rights and rightsof elderly people must be looked at far better. 7) going after the corporate crooks, regulating them and creating jobs and wealth for the working/middle classes is now obamas main agenda, he will do this way better than romney. romeny simply wasnt much better than bush on the economy, wed have seen more elitist control and another crash in 10 years. obamas building long term economic growth , spreading wealth from the grass roots up. his plan will last.

8) stem cell research is massive too.

9)lastly healthcare was by miles and miles and miles and miles the biggest most important issue. nearly all other issues were trivial. 50 million americans will now receive healthcare treatment as will their children and their childrens children. this is his greatest achievement, something no president has ever achieved.

http://fullfact.org/factchecks/uk_ab...compared-28456

Incorrect. But offtopic so I wont elaborate, the link proves my point though.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

http://fullfact.org/factchecks/uk_ab...compared-28456

Incorrect. But offtopic so I wont elaborate, the link proves my point though.

yah thats right ignore everythong else, ignore the millions of innocent aborted babies killed without a chance of life, ignore, stem cell research, ignore healthcare for 50 million, ignore the regulations needed to dave the free market, pathetic

[Vicky.]

Just felt like pointing out that you clearly dont check your facts before making posts on such important subjects, instead preferring to make things up to make it seem worse than it is in our country

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Just felt like pointing out that you clearly dont check your facts before making posts on such important subjects, instead preferring to make things up to make it seem worse than it is in our country

my stats are 100% right. abortion went from 20,000+ to 190,000 over 4 decades, you relaly need to read up on the issue if you really care about the 191000 dead babies http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...nd-wales:nono:

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

my stats are 100% right. abortion went from 20,000+ to 190,000 over 4 decades, you relaly need to read up on the issue if you really care about the 191000 dead babies http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...nd-wales:nono:

I didnt deny that though. Merely pointed out that the uk having the most abortions per head on the planet was incorrect.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I didnt deny that though. Merely pointed out that the uk having the most abortions per head on the planet was incorrect.

yes you ignored the bigger picture and the enormous deaths of babies, yet again avoiding the actual issue? why?

[joeysteele]

Really pleased Obama won again, typically Florida is taking its time again to declare its result I see.

[Niamh.]

lol this lady isn't very happy about Obama winning

**Warning strong language**

Youtube video

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

BBC.

ITV has a drunk Hislop giving no information whatsoever.

ive been watching cnn far more detail than bbc

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

ive been watching cnn far more detail than bbc

So, why did you ask?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

So, why did you ask?

good point. i just meant who was everyone else watching. ive been disappojnted with the beeb so far....fox news is just a joke but i pop in for 60 seconds every hour