[LukeB]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

I don’t see what Shaughna has done wrong so far. It’s not like she’s been jumping ship every single time. She’s treading carefully unlike Mike who’ll pounce on someone the minute they show him attention

Shaughna hasn't even acted on it as well and she may not Just a chick who could be confused. One rule for Mike and one rule for the other, when one acted way desperate than the other. One was muggy the other isn't

[rionablue]

I thought they should have dedicated a bigger time slot to the headlines section tonight not bunched it in to the last few minutes. I didnt even bother watching Jess's date or the antics in the hideaway I had the programme recorded as I was out. I still like Natalia and if Jamie is gona pick by picking the most attractive its her. However I think she is only 20 so far too young for a guy who wants to settle down. I too find it hard to believe Shaughna is suddenly interested in Luke. And on another topic I clearly remember Finn and Natalia having a private chat just after the girls coming in. There was a little bit of flirting but then Luke kinda took over after that

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LukeB

you're reaching and reaching badly. We all know Mike got dumped but he moved on literally the same day, less than an hour and went to Jess his third choice btw then forgetting about Jess after a second. Shaughna isn't like Mike though she doesn't move on after seconds, she would be slated if she did. She was getting her head together. Have you ever thought she may be confused on her feelings because it's her first time being single in the villa? she hasn't even acted on it fgs, you need to get grip. All i got is Mike can be desperate and Shaughna can't even though she isn't being desperate. She's ready to date again so of course she will start having interest for people. fgs it's really not hard to understand human behaviour.

You are such a hypocrite...if Shaughna moved on quickly you would be the first to jump to her defence. She can do no wrong in your eyes. I like Mike but he hasn’t been perfect by any means...at least I can see faults when they are there.
The truth is Shaughna has not shown any interest to get to know Luke M before now in that way...Now suddenly she’s interested after she has no connection with Jamie...funny that

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

You are such a hypocrite...if Shaughna moved on quickly you would be the first to jump to her defence. She can do no wrong in your eyes. I like Mike but he hasn’t been perfect by any means...at least I can see faults when they are there.
The truth is Shaughna has not shown any interest to get to know Luke M before now in that way...Now suddenly she’s interested after she has no connection with Jamie...funny that

Not really i would be very suspicious if Shaughna did move on straight away you've always excused Mike's muggy behaviour so no you don't all because his 'entertaining' a girl will be called a slag if they acted like him

Because she hasn't really had the chance to She was with Callum for most of her time and has been getting her head over what happened to her. How dare a single girl who is ready to date again show an interest in others who could be confused with her feelings. Was she meant be interested in Luke M as soon as she got dumped or when she was with Callum?

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I know Mike was full on with Jess after Leanne dumped him...however Jess made it quite clear to him she didn’t trust him because of his actions..trust is a big thing...Casa Amor was the perfect opportunity for them both to act..and they BOTH did...and judging by their recoupling it was the right thing for both of them.
Shaughna needs a mature man with lots of banter. She is quite insecure despite her strong demeanour and I don’t think she is going to find him on LI.

Mike was full on but to me that came across as more desperate than what Shaughna is doing (just my opinion of course) and whilst they both did eventually move on from each other after Casa Amor, I can’t help but think that Mike would’ve been even more devious if Casa Amor would’ve happened a week later (but this is just speculation).

I agree Shaughna needs a mature man but the only one that seems to fit that category at the moment is Luke M as she isn’t attracted to Jaime (who so far hasn’t shown any signs of immaturity either). I don’t think Luke M and Shaughna are compatible though like you say, she needs someone with a lot of banter and Luke M doesn’t seem like that type (although he is a nice guy). I think all of them are insecure one way or another but I think Shaughna’s insecurity is being shown more because of how things planned out with Callum.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Big Evil

Mike was full on but to me that came across as more desperate than what Shaughna is doing (just my opinion of course) and whilst they both did eventually move on from each other after Casa Amor, I can’t help but think that Mike would’ve been even more devious if Casa Amor would’ve happened a week later (but this is just speculation).

I agree Shaughna needs a mature man but the only one that seems to fit that category at the moment is Luke M as she isn’t attracted to Jaime (who so far hasn’t shown any signs of immaturity either). I don’t think Luke M and Shaughna are compatible though like you say, she needs someone with a lot of banter and Luke M doesn’t seem like that type (although he is a nice guy). I think all of them are insecure one way or another but I think Shaughna’s insecurity is being shown more because of how things planned out with Callum.

Shaughna does need a mature man but i think Jamie is the last male to enter. Not sure where that will lead

Shaughna hasn't really had the time to be interested in others because she was with Callum for about 4 weeks and this past week she was dealing with it and you can't really get over someone that quickly. Since Jamie got her on the date, she started to be ready to date again so all these new feelings are coming to her. She's just deciding what she wants There's no signs she will act on it though.

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Shaughna does need a mature man but i think Jamie is the last male to enter. Not sure where that will lead

Shaughna hasn't really had the time to be interested in others because she was with Callum for about 4 weeks and this past week she was dealing with it and you can't really get over someone that quickly. Since Jamie got her on the date, she started to be ready to date again so all these new feelings are coming to her. She's just deciding what she wants There's no signs she will act on it though.

This is the difference for me. Shaughna has been in a couple since the beginning so it is a big adjustment living in the villa being single. On top of this is the whole thing that’s happened with Callum so I could imagine she’s been very overwhelmed and very confused by it all. I agree I think this last week has been very much her trying to get answers from Callum and trying to deal with it as well as these new feelings she potentially has for other guys. I don’t think she’s been desperate really at all but like I say just my opinion

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Big Evil

Mike was full on but to me that came across as more desperate than what Shaughna is doing (just my opinion of course) and whilst they both did eventually move on from each other after Casa Amor, I can’t help but think that Mike would’ve been even more devious if Casa Amor would’ve happened a week later (but this is just speculation).

I agree Shaughna needs a mature man but the only one that seems to fit that category at the moment is Luke M as she isn’t attracted to Jaime (who so far hasn’t shown any signs of immaturity either). I don’t think Luke M and Shaughna are compatible though like you say, she needs someone with a lot of banter and Luke M doesn’t seem like that type (although he is a nice guy). I think all of them are insecure one way or another but I think Shaughna’s insecurity is being shown more because of how things planned out with Callum.

I agree that Mikes behaviour did come across as desperate moving full on so quickly...but Shaughna now showing an interest in Luke M seems desperate to me because it’s come out of the blue and after Jamie wasn’t what she had hoped for.
Shaughna is insecure...She’s obviously hooked up with too many ‘Callums’ in the past..I don’t think there is anyone in there for her unfortunately.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Big Evil

This is the difference for me. Shaughna has been in a couple since the beginning so it is a big adjustment living in the villa being single. On top of this is the whole thing that’s happened with Callum so I could imagine she’s been very overwhelmed and very confused by it all. I agree I think this last week has been very much her trying to get answers from Callum and trying to deal with it as well as these new feelings she potentially has for other guys. I don’t think she’s been desperate really at all but like I say just my opinion

Exactly

also she could have easily played it safe and fake her feelings for Jamie to secure her place but she isn't I think she's going through her options on what she should do and wants since all of this is new to her, give Jamie a chance to see where that goes or try with Luke M. Not really desperate at all. She hasn't actually said no to Jamie, she was flirting with him todays episode. She's just confused.

[Amy Jade]

It's not weird Shaughna likes Luke M, she even explained the feelings have grown. It's very natural to just view somebody as a friend but fall for them after you get to see their personality bloom - the public have done the same with Luke M actually, he wasnt that popular to begin with but his popularity is growing because hes a nice, genuine guy.

Mike literally went from saying he wanted Sophie, then to Jess the same episode and saying he liked her so much he would leave into dumping her for Pracilla all over about 2 or 3 days

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I agree that Mikes behaviour did come across as desperate moving full on so quickly...but Shaughna now showing an interest in Luke M seems desperate to me because it’s come out of the blue and after Jamie wasn’t what she had hoped for.
Shaughna is insecure...She’s obviously hooked up with too many ‘Callums’ in the past..I don’t think there is anyone in there for her unfortunately.

That’s fair enough Rusticgal. Personally for me I don’t think she’s desperate I just think she is trying to adjust to the single life in the villa but it’s all being very confusing for her. Whilst her interest in Luke M may seem out of the blue to some, there may have been those little hints that she has liked him that we didn’t pick up on maybe like I mentioned before. Kinda like with Curtis and Amy last year when he dumped her, the signs were there but alot of the viewers seemed to miss them because Curtis and Amy very rarely had any problems.

Yh I’d probably agree there she probably has hooked up with a few Callum’s in the past. At least she learned not to trust scaffolders anymore, she’s gonna be a bit screwed if she needs any roof work done on her house though

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Not really i would be very suspicious if Shaughna did move on straight away you've always excused Mike's muggy behaviour so no you don't all because his 'entertaining' a girl will be called a slag if they acted like him

Because she hasn't really had the chance to She was with Callum for most of her time and has been getting her head over what happened to her. How dare a single girl who is ready to date again show an interest in others who could be confused with her feelings. Was she meant be interested in Luke M as soon as she got dumped or when she was with Callum?

You see that’s where you are wrong...I haven’t “always excused Mikes muggy behaviour”...read my posts. You WOULD defend Shaughna come what may. Jess has moved from man to man albeit none of them have officially dumped her...have I called her a slag ...no. I don’t use that language.
I’m fine with Shaughna showing an interest in someone else...for someone to be so excited for a date with new boy Jamie and then find he isn’t her type...to suddenly throw an interest for a boy that’s been in there for 3 weeks...is very suspicious in my eyes and can be viewed as desperate IMO..

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Big Evil

That’s fair enough Rusticgal. Personally for me I don’t think she’s desperate I just think she is trying to adjust to the single life in the villa but it’s all being very confusing for her. Whilst her interest in Luke M may seem out of the blue to some, there may have been those little hints that she has liked him that we didn’t pick up on maybe like I mentioned before. Kinda like with Curtis and Amy last year when he dumped her, the signs were there but alot of the viewers seemed to miss them because Curtis and Amy very rarely had any problems.

Yh I’d probably agree there she probably has hooked up with a few Callum’s in the past. At least she learned not to trust scaffolders anymore, she’s gonna be a bit screwed if she needs any roof work done on her house though

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

It's not weird Shaughna likes Luke M, she even explained the feelings have grown. It's very natural to just view somebody as a friend but fall for them after you get to see their personality bloom - the public have done the same with Luke M actually, he wasnt that popular to begin with but his popularity is growing because hes a nice, genuine guy.

Mike literally went from saying he wanted Sophie, then to Jess the same episode and saying he liked her so much he would leave into dumping her for Pracilla all over about 2 or 3 days

exactly also didn't most of the public did a 180 on Siannise as well? all of this is natural human behaviour. People change their minds and grow feelings.that's life. You hear stories about married couples who hated each other first. **** like this happens.

Shaughna has just started to move on after a week and isn't going for the easiest option.
Mike would go for any girl, seconds after being dumped. Maybe Rebecca and Mike are a match.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

You see that’s where you are wrong...I haven’t “always excused Mikes muggy behaviour”...read my posts. You WOULD defend Shaughna come what may. Jess has moved from man to man albeit none of them have officially dumped her...have I called her a slag ...no. I don’t use that language.
I’m fine with Shaughna showing an interest in someone else...for someone to be so excited for a date with new boy Jamie and then find he isn’t her type...to suddenly throw an interest for a boy that’s been in there for 3 weeks...is very suspicious in my eyes and can be viewed as desperate IMO..

I don't remember you calling Mike desperate If Shaughna has done something wrong then i will not defend her. I also like Demi but felt she shouldn't be kissing Luke M if she wants to get to know Jamie because it's not a good look.

Shaughna hasn't ruled anything out with Jamie though has she? All of this is new to her. She was with and getting over Callum for all of those weeks.

She hasn't even acted on it and we're not sure if she will.

[Ammi]

...I don’t think that Shaughna ‘suddenly’ likes LukeM, so much as it’s something that may be possibly worth exploring/evolving from circumstances that they’ve both experienced in there...when she was with Callum, her whole focus was on him ....she’s someone who would focus on her coupling, in her character..?...so I can’t imagine her having any romantic interest in anyone else when in a coupling like she was...and then since Casa Amor...so far as she knew, LukeM and Natalia were very much a couple ...and she’s never shown any interest for anyone else who has been snuggly in a couple, so she would never have explored any feelings before that she may be now looking at ...obviously, Natalia’s rejection of Luke has come at a similar time to Jamie coming in and she was chosen for a date with him...so she was looking at any possible connection there...and realising that there want any, has probably been something that’s made her realise that there may be one with Luke...?...it may just be that her connection with him feels stronger than that with Jamie, but still not strong enough to form anything romantic..?..but that’s something they would have to explore together to know...(...if they both decide to explore it...)...

...I absolutely can’t see any ‘desperate’ at all, just circumstances in how their previous couplings have evolved...(...or not evolved..)...which means that this is the first time they’re both able to explore any possibilities...

[Cherie]

We are all assuming that Luke M and Shaughna won’t make a great couple but in some ways he is like Callum in that he is quite chilled and not bothered about being being the driving force in the relationship, Shaughna likes being in charge so they may suit quite well, nobody saw Maura and Curtis together either

[Ammi]

...I don’t see much suggestion that they don’t have the potential to be a great coupling...it’s more the ‘out of the blue’, type reasoning...but for me, this really would be the first time that they’ve properly had the opportunity to explore any attraction/connection...if that’s what they both decide to do...

[Alf]

Shaughna has to couple up with somebody, or she'll be leaving the island, tomorrow probably. It's the name of the game. If she wants to win the prize money, which is the most important thing, then she has to do it.

She sees herself having a better chance of winning with Luke rather than the new lad, so she's doing the right thing in my opinion.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I don’t see much suggestion that they don’t have the potential to be a great coupling...it’s more the ‘out of the blue’, type reasoning...but for me, this really would be the first time that they’ve properly had the opportunity to explore any attraction/connection...if that’s what they both decide to do...

There have been some posts that he wouldn’t be strong enough for her and Mike alluded to it in last nights highlights as in she would eat him alive

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Shaughna has to couple up with somebody, or she'll be leaving the island, tomorrow probably. It's the name of the game. If she wants to win the prize money, which is the most important thing, then she has to do it.

She sees herself having a better chance of winning with Luke rather than the new lad, so she's doing the right thing in my opinion.

Same, the new guy is a bit odd, I found his pulling Callum for a chat completely out of order and only done as he know Shaughna is a fan favourite

[Alf]

The only thing with Luke is, he doesn't know how to have banter with these girls, so he keeps boring them to death.

He's more of a laid back, man's man, rather than an in your face womaniser, who has no shame or control button.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Alf

The only thing with Luke is, he doesn't know how to have banter with these girls, so he keeps boring them to death.

He's more of a laid back, man's man, rather than an in your face womaniser, who has no shame or control button.

I agree Alf and I was thinking that myself when Natalia said she wasnt 'feeling it' once they came back into the villa. Luke should have at least tried to get closer to her but he just chilled out with the boys etc. I am not saying she would entertain any kind of romantic gestures but who's to say either that she wouldn't. Luke is just cruising along, hanging out with the lads and I havent seen him show any REAL and TRUE interest in anyone since he came in Nice lad no doubt bout that but boring really

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I don't remember you calling Mike desperate If Shaughna has done something wrong then i will not defend her. I also like Demi but felt she shouldn't be kissing Luke M if she wants to get to know Jamie because it's not a good look.

Shaughna hasn't ruled anything out with Jamie though has she? All of this is new to her. She was with and getting over Callum for all of those weeks.

She hasn't even acted on it and we're not sure if she will.

I never said I did call him desperate...but I haven't defended his every move either. You are completely missing my point and im not going to keep repeating myself either. When Mike got dumped he moved on to someone he had expressed a liking for when she entered the villa. Shaughna gets dumped and waits for someone to come in for her,,,Jamie doesn't fit the bill it seems,,,then suddenly out the blue she expresses an interest in Luke M ....
Now you can defend her by saying shes been confused and trying to get her head around things as much as you like..but I disagree with that. If anyone you didn't like did the same thing you would not be defending them end of.
I don't dislike Shaughna but I this situation suspicious and seems a little desperate to keep herself in.

Its my opinion that's all...we cant all agree.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We are all assuming that Luke M and Shaughna won’t make a great couple but in some ways he is like Callum in that he is quite chilled and not bothered about being being the driving force in the relationship, Shaughna likes being in charge so they may suit quite well, nobody saw Maura and Curtis together either

I wouldn't trust Callum as far as I could throw him...whereas I think Luke would be completely loyal.
I think Luke has the trust factor that Shaughna needs but she needs someone to look up to with a bit of charisma that Luke lacks imo.