[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I understand your frustration Ryan how can it be that it is accepted that a character based on an actual person be portrayed as a different ethnicity to the one known, and the issue of James Bond a fictional character can't be as it would be too confusing and not fit in with his back story?!

I think you got me confused with Kirk? I didn't say that.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Of course you're not. Tons of people believe everything they hear. The majority of things written about MJ weren't true.

His autopsy report clearly states he had vitiligo. There is no reason why he'd want to change his skin to white. He was proud of his heritage.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

I think you got me confused with Kirk? I didn't say that.

No, trust me I haven't. I'm sorry should have said I understand your frustration at the comments like 'he wanted to be white'.
The rest is just my reaction to this information about MJ based on what was said regarding JB earlier in the thread.

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No, trust me I haven't. I'm sorry should have said I understand your frustration at the comments like 'he wanted to be white'.
The rest is just my reaction to this information about MJ based on what was said regarding JB earlier in the thread.

Oh right. No worries.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

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So you do not agree that diversity is a two way street?

You don't need a solution to something that isn't a problem and roles for white people aren't a problem

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Diversity...








All of the above movies were very good movies regardless of colour. Why is it only deemed an issue if it's a white actor playing a black character?
Diversity after all is a two way street so movie roles should be open to everyone regardless of race, colour, gender etc.

I have no idea what point you are trying to make here? are you saying it isn't two way? Posters in this thread have instructed you of many many films where ethnically neutral characters have been played by Caucasian actors so by giving a few random examples of the opposite, what point do you think you have made?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Looking at Will Smith's movie I am even more surprised he wasn't nominated. With football (their version) being so huge there you would think that the story of the guy who discovered that many footballers had brain disease would be important. If the doctor in question was white I know this would have gotten the actor a nomination.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Diversity is what all the actors want and now they have it, it should not matter at all what colour this actor is. Diversity is a two way street.

Diversity is not taking the few roles black actors can play.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Diversity...
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All of the above movies were very good movies regardless of colour. Why is it only deemed an issue if it's a white actor playing a black character?
Diversity after all is a two way street so movie roles should be open to everyone regardless of race, colour, gender etc.

You must have missed all the people calling Quvenzhane a little n8gger. And all the people threatening to boycott Star Wars because there would be a black character forgetting the creator of this is married to a black person.

Diversity is not a two way street in this instance. White people have got to stop acting like the balance is 50/50. This is just white people regressing to excuse pushing out the few blacks that make it more and more.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You don't need a solution to something that isn't a problem and roles for white people aren't a problem

it is a problem though. there are roles that white people aren't given the chance to play. It's not a problem on the grand scale, but on a smaller scale there are theaters that only cast black actors, so on the smaller scale it is a problem.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Looking at Will Smith's movie I am even more surprised he wasn't nominated. With football (their version) being so huge there you would think that the story of the guy who discovered that many footballers had brain disease would be important. If the doctor in question was white I know this would have gotten the actor a nomination.

Why would football fans want to watch a movie that is knocking and criticizing their favorite sport?

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

You must have missed all the people calling Quvenzhane a little n8gger. And all the people threatening to boycott Star Wars because there would be a black character forgetting the creator of this is married to a black person.

No, i saw all of that too. I also saw people kick off at Ben Afflick when he was given the role as the next Batman and they too threatened to boycot the movie because he was chosen. I also recently watched the movie the hatefull 8 and as the opening credits rolled the first name on screen was a black actors name,he was also the leading actor in this movie. Samuel L Jackson played the lead role in the hatefull 8 and he was brilliant in this movie which goes directly against those suggesting only white actors get the lead roles. I'm sure i will get the but thats just one movie quote thrown back at me for pointing out something positive as people only want to talk about the negative stuff in here.

Diversity is not a two way street in this instance. White people have got to stop acting like the balance is 50/50. This is just white people regressing to excuse pushing out the few blacks that make it more and more.

This is where we disagree. I believe that diversity is a two way street. EVERYONE should be given equal opportunity and that includes ALL the different people of race for ALL movie roles.
I agree with you on the balance of things right now not being 50/50 but to generalize and say white folk need to stop pushing out blacks is a cheap shot. I do not believe that ALL white people are like that. I also disagree with you that only black actors are being treated this way. Many races are treated this way and NOT just one race in the movie industry.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Diversity...








All of the above movies were very good movies regardless of colour. Why is it only deemed an issue if it's a white actor playing a black character?
Diversity after all is a two way street so movie roles should be open to everyone regardless of race, colour, gender etc.

actually all of those movies were terrible....

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by lostalex

actually all of those movies were terrible....

Get lost.

[Ryan57]

“I got the script the other day,” Fiennes explained to WENN.

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But according to the British production cable channel Sky Arts, the casting is a done deal, as the half-hour comedy was shot last year. Though a story surfaced this week quoting Fiennes as if he just received the script “the other day”, the project is already in post-production.

Fiennes is an absolute prick. The whole thing stinks. Racism and a comedy about trying to escape on 9/11... how hilarious. Sky may as well air it on 9/11 to complete the joke they've created. All three of MJ, Brando and Taylor would be ashamed if they were alive.

A black man would never be given the role of playing Elvis Presley.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by lostalex

actually all of those movies were terrible....

I was gonna say (but I haven't seen the Wiz, whatever that is). White Chicks was OK though.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Sly Stallone be like ''if you don't want me to go [to the oscars] I won't go'' nah dude, that sounds like you want to go.If you really didn't and wanted to take a stand you wouldn't have said that. Go get your oscar dude, you owe it to Rocky 4 and Creed.