[BlackOrWhite]

There are very stereotypical views of Americans here.

[bigbrother10uk]

Originally posted by BlackOrWhite
There are very stereotypical views of Americans here.

besides the government, america is a great place. and im proud to be american.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by bigbrother10uk
here's the proof

Youtube video

And here is the Snopes article detailing how this was filmed in 2002. It was designed to pull the legs of conspiracy theorists. The original person who conceived this film has since died and not at the hands of some American conspiracy

[Sticks]

Originally posted by spitfire

Knowing the Americans as we do.If they did land on the moon forty years ago,they would have a theme park up there by now!

It still costs a lot to just into Low Earth Orbit and only very wealthy Tycoons have gone up privately, and going via the Soyuz space craft, not the shuttle.

Space travel is not cheap, so setting up a theme park was way beyond anyone's financial ability.

In fact after Apollo 12 people were questioning going to the moon since we had done that.

Look at all the bad press and angry letters people wrote about the cost of the Mars rovers saying the money should be spent on feeding the hungry.

Space is political, and if a politician can make him or herself look good by getting funds for his pork barrel projects and taking it from NASA, what do you expect will happen?

[spitfire]

Originally posted by Sticks

It still costs a lot to just into Low Earth Orbit and only very wealthy Tycoons have gone up privately, and going via the Soyuz space craft, not the shuttle.

Space travel is not cheap, so setting up a theme park was way beyond anyone's financial ability.

In fact after Apollo 12 people were questioning going to the moon since we had done that.

Look at all the bad press and angry letters people wrote about the cost of the Mars rovers saying the money should be spent on feeding the hungry.

Space is political, and if a politician can make him or herself look good by getting funds for his pork barrel projects and taking it from NASA, what do you expect will happen?

Ahh the old 'we can't afford it' chestnut.Despite being the most richest and powerful nation on the earth.
If they had landed on the moon,why didn't they bring a soup dragon home?

[Speedy]

Im not really into the moon debate however I find it a little suspicious as to why there hasnt been a more recent landing? But I couldnt care less.

That being said I believe 911 was definitely organised by the US government. WTC 7 imploded on its self and fell at free fall. Not to mention why the most guarded building in the US, being the pentagon, hasnt realised footage of what actually hit it.

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by Speedy
Im not really into the moon debate however I find it a little suspicious as to why there hasnt been a more recent landing? But I couldnt care less.

That being said I believe 911 was definitely organised by the US government. WTC 7 imploded on its self and fell at free fall. Not to mention why the most guarded building in the US, being the pentagon, hasnt realised footage of what actually hit it.

Oh, you know everything that goes on in the US government and exactly what they plan and do? There's a difference between fact and opinion.

[TT]

just because you have little knowledge of the moon landings doesn't mean you're an ignorant two-faced back-stabbing ugly annoying sh*t stirring bitch

[gunrunner911]

Originally posted by SocietyIsRuined

Actually I will never ever believe that Oswald shot Kennedy. The other two I believe but never in my wildest dreams will I ever believe Oswald shot and killed him.

[off topic]
fyi

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by TT
just because you have little knowledge of the moon landings doesn't mean you're an ignorant two-faced back-stabbing ugly annoying sh*t stirring bitch

Nobody said that. She still is though.

[Speedy]

Originally posted by BlackOrWhite

Oh, you know everything that goes on in the US government and exactly what they plan and do? There's a difference between fact and opinion.

OK here are some facts for you. Research the Gulf of Tonkin incident, USS Liberty incident and Operation Northwoods, all declassified CIA documents now.

Seriously this is one argument you dont want to pick. But one question for you, what brought down WTC 7 on 911?

[BlackOrWhite]

Originally posted by Speedy

OK here are some facts for you. Research the Gulf of Tonkin incident, USS Liberty incident and Operation Northwoods, all declassified CIA documents now.

Seriously this is one argument you dont want to pick. But one question for you, what brought down WTC 7 on 911?

Seriously this is an argument I want to pick but suggest it be done via U2U.

[gunrunner911]

just another FYI for the fag assed fagotrys in here...

[Sticks]

Originally posted by spitfire

Ahh the old 'we can't afford it' chestnut.Despite being the most richest and powerful nation on the earth.
If they had landed on the moon,why didn't they bring a soup dragon home?

They were engaged in a long and costly unpopular war at that time and the budget was cut presumably to fund that.

Now why does that sound familiar

[spitfire]

Originally posted by Sticks

They were engaged in a long and costly unpopular war at that time and the budget was cut presumably to fund that.

Now why does that sound familiar

Oh come on,they would of found the cash.I've read all the info on did they,didn't they and i side with the later.So i guess we will have to agree to disagree.

[BigBummer]

There is as much evidence proving the moon landings happened as there is dis-proving evidence.

There are equal amounts. Someone who believes they happened should call someone stupid becasue they don't believe... and vice versa.

Before anyone says there is not equal amounts... there is, you just need to stay away from mainstream media and look at more proffesional, unbiased news sources.

[Speedy]

Originally posted by BigBummer
There is as much evidence proving the moon landings happened as there is dis-proving evidence.

There are equal amounts. Someone who believes they happened should call someone stupid becasue they don't believe... and vice versa.

Before anyone says there is not equal amounts... there is, you just need to stay away from mainstream media and look at more proffesional, unbiased news sources.

Yea like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuwyY2DzO2I

[BB22]

I am not sure what the big controversy is about not having been back to the Moon. The reasons why are quite obvious, openly discussed by the relevant community and widely known. There is not much of a scientific imperative, it costs a bloody lot of money and nobody has yet worked out how to make a profit out of doing it.

If you will pardon the pun, this is not rocket science.

[Shasown]

Originally posted by Speedy

But one question for you, what brought down WTC 7 on 911?

http://www.nce.co.uk/thermal-turmoil...884773.article

[BB22]

Originally posted by BigBummer
There is as much evidence proving the moon landings happened as there is dis-proving evidence.

There are equal amounts. Someone who believes they happened should call someone stupid becasue they don't believe... and vice versa.

Before anyone says there is not equal amounts... there is, you just need to stay away from mainstream media and look at more proffesional, unbiased news sources.

To be honest, there really isn't any evidence to indicate that the moon landings did not take place in line with the generally accepted history. I mean, the conspiracy theorists make a load of noise but they never offer anything that hasn't been comprehensively debunked over and over again.

[Speedy]

Originally posted by BB22
I am not sure what the big controversy is about not having been back to the Moon. The reasons why are quite obvious, openly discussed by the relevant community and widely known. There is not much of a scientific imperative, it costs a bloody lot of money and nobody has yet worked out how to make a profit out of doing it.

If you will pardon the pun, this is not rocket science.

Its not about making money. Those who rule space can rule the earth and thats why the US shat themselves when China shot down a weather satellite.

As for the cost wouldnt it be cheaper as technology has advanced?

[BB22]

Originally posted by Speedy

Its not about making money. Those who rule space can rule the earth and thats why the US shat themselves when China shot down a weather satellite.

As for the cost wouldnt it be cheaper as technology has advanced?

We are not talking about space exploration or the weaponisation of space here. The US is still investing gigantic amounts of money in that, as should be obvious. We are talking about repeatedly sending people to the Moon. And as I have stated, the reasons why this does not happen are well-known, openly discussed and entirely plausible.

As for the cost/technology issue, not particularly.

[Speedy]

Originally posted by Shasown

http://www.nce.co.uk/thermal-turmoil...884773.article

And Santa Clause will bring me presents on Dec 25th, for you he will be arriving on April 1st.

[Cybele]

You know, I came in here to say something about Bea, but it seems the thread has been hijacked by people spouting nonsense. I guess some people really do believe that everything on the internet is true. Though I don't really think anyone could believe such utter nonsense, so I will assume they are just common trolls and ignore them.

[Shasown]

Originally posted by Speedy

And Santa Clause will bring me presents on Dec 25th, for you he will be arriving on April 1st.

I really do hate to be the bearer of bad news, my old mate, but just like any sort of truth in all those conspiracy theories you so obviously believe in, Santa Claus does Not exist.