[Prole]

The school were right to expel him. They have to consider all the other kids from whom he's diverting attention. It is not the school's responsibility to teach manners and discipline, it's the parents'. He's their kid, he's their responsibility. Obviously they're not bothered by the fact that that their child is heading for a troubled life because they would have had to agree to his photograph being used by the press. They most be so proud.

As for the comment about the father being a civil engineer, "which suggests the family are not as bad as you first think", that's pretty blinkered. I come into contact with professionals and people who would consider themselves "upper class" on a daily basis and a large proportion of them are real scumbags who's kids are arrogant and unruly. Social class has nothing to do with manners and breeding.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Prole

The school were right to expel him. They have to consider all the other kids from whom he's diverting attention. It is not the school's responsibility to teach manners and discipline, it's the parents'. He's their kid, he's their responsibility. Obviously they're not bothered by the fact that that their child is heading for a troubled life because they would have had to agree to his photograph being used by the press. They most be so proud.

As for the comment about the father being a civil engineer, "which suggests the family are not as bad as you first think", that's pretty blinkered. I come into contact with professionals and people who would consider themselves "upper class" on a daily basis and a large proportion of them are real scumbags who's kids are arrogant and unruly. Social class has nothing to do with manners and breeding.

Social class has nothing to do with manners and breeding.

FAIL


(a civil engineer would be lower middle class in all likelihood)

[WOMBAI]

It is difficult to imagine that a child of that age could do anything bad enough to get expelled. Even if a little so-and-so - he hasn't been given much of chance at 4. I believe that, in the eyes of the law, a child of that age isn't old enough to fully understand right and wrong. Just seems very extreme.

Also said in that article that a child of 3 was excluded from somewhere for hitting another child - but children of that age do hit each other - they will learn in time - they just need more supervision! I think it has much to do with teachers being afraid of parents holding the school accountable and suing them! It is a worrying trend!

[Prole]

I could be wrong, but I've a feeling that Leather Trumpet's post will have been aimed at me. However, as it will be picking at a niggling little point in my post and missing the big picture as usual, I have you on ignore, so don't even waste your time.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

It is difficult to imagine that a child of that age could do anything bad enough to get expelled. Even if a little so-and-so - he hasn't been given much of chance at 4. I believe that, in the eyes of the law, a child of that age isn't old enough to fully understand right and wrong. Just seems very extreme.

Also said in that article that a child of 3 was excluded from somewhere for hitting another child - but children of that age do hit each other - they will learn in time - they just need more supervision! I think it has much to do with teachers being afraid of parents holding the school accountable and suing them! It is a worrying trend!

Well, I can tell you I have a 5 year old son who's in his first year of school since September and he would never ever dream of hitting or kicking his teacher, he fully understands that this would be wrong, he also would not have done this last year when he was 4. He knows it's wrong because my husband and I taught him it's wrong and would not tolorate him behaving that way.

[WOMBAI]

Have you only the one child? Because as a mother of 3 - I know how different children brought up in the same family, under the same rules - can be. Again it is not always as simple as that!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Have you only the one child? Because as a mother of 3 - I know how different children brought up in the same family, under the same rules - can be. Again it is not always as simple as that!

No, I have 2 children 5 & 9 and also 2 step-children 11 & 14

and while they're all very different, none of them would get away with kicking their teacher

[WOMBAI]

Undoubtedly - he should have been punished - but expelled at 4. I think it is an irrationale over-reaction - probably based on the school's fears of action being taken against them.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Undoubtedly - he should have been punished - but expelled at 4. I think it is an irrationale over-reaction - probably based on the school's fears of action being taken against them.

well, If his parents are saying he's just "lively" I would imagine, by the sounds of it, they're not taking it seriously enough. I'm quite sure the school asked the parents to do something about before they expelled him.

Again, I'm only guessing of course but It's highly unlikely that this one thing happened and the school just expelled him.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

well, If his parents are saying he's just "lively" I would imagine, by the sounds of it, they're not taking it seriously enough. I'm quite sure the school asked the parents to do something about before they expelled him.

Again, I'm only guessing of course but It's highly unlikely that this one thing happened and the school just expelled him.

Of course, you may be right - but schools certainly can expel a child for a one-off incident of 'violence' - especially if that child has presented with difficult behaviour previously. They may have been eager to get rid of him - and they saw their chance. Who knows!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Of course, you may be right - but schools certainly can expel a child for a one-off incident of 'violence' - especially if that child has presented with difficult behaviour previously. They may have been eager to get rid of him - and they saw their chance. Who knows!

lol, yeah, I don't think that article is really giving the whole story anyway!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

That's what my parents told to my school when I was about 5, I was 'lively' lmao

You go little boy ! Show them who's the boss

This

LMFAO

[Beastie]

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He looks like what Wayne Rooney's kid will look like when he is older! LOL

[WOMBAI]

[QUOTE=thebeast;2705914]

Originally Posted by arista

He looks like what Wayne Rooney's kid will look like when he is older! LOL

He does, doesn't he!

[InOne]

Barbarism begins at home.

[ILoveTRW]

my little brother got expelled from nursery for bitting the other kids

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Tom

This

LMFAO

But really lol I was quite a nightmare at school but I always managed to be loved, somehow ? I still have to find out why my parents didn't kill me lmao
Now I'm fine (yet I almost got arrested for swearing at a policemen while being drunk at 5am, and I was under-age) but I can tell what the kid is doing.
He just should have had a punishment, not being completely expelled.