[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It seems to me that the most hateful comments on this forum come from people with an illogical and spiteful hate of JJ and Josie

It is possible people to like diff peeps each night. Last night I loved Dave "Andrew, you have no chance" and his faux glory druinkeness. But tonight I may hate him.

You dont have to stick with anyone. BTW I think Ben should have stayed and Mario/Steve should have gone, if we are talking entertainment.

The voice of reason indeed LT

[fizzy]

I've been air-brushed

[Angus]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It seems to me that the most hateful comments on this forum come from people with an illogical and spiteful hate of JJ and Josie

It is possible people to like diff peeps each night. Last night I loved Dave "Andrew, you have no chance" and his faux glory druinkeness. But tonight I may hate him.

You dont have to stick with anyone. BTW I think Ben should have stayed and Mario/Steve should have gone, if we are talking entertainment.

I do not have an illogical or spiteful "hatred" of the camera *****s JJ&J. I am commenting on what I have seen and heard them say and do, and my opinions are as valid as yours or anyone else's.

This is a public forum for the discussion or what we love and hate about the HMs, not a JJ&J extended Appreciation Thread. If the OP wants to title a thread calling Ben fans "bitter queens" she must expect Ben fans to comment, especially since she offers no evidence to support that statement other than a lot of us Ben fans detest the duvet divers because they have completely ruined what could have been a fantastic last series.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by angus58

I do not have an illogical or spiteful "hatred" of the camera *****s JJ&J. I am commenting on what I have seen and heard them say and do, and my opinions are as valid as yours or anyone else's.

This is a public forum for the discussion or what we love and hate about the HMs, not a JJ&J extended Appreciation Thread. If the OP wants to title a thread calling Ben fans "bitter queens" she must expect Ben fans to comment, especially since she offers no evidence to support that statement other than a lot of us Ben fans detest the duvet divers because they have completely ruined what could have been a fantastic last series.

They haven't ruined anything, If there was something more interesting going then that would have been shown instead.

[fizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

They haven't ruined anything, If there was something more interesting going then that would have been shown instead.

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[Angus]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

They haven't ruined anything, If there was something more interesting going then that would have been shown instead.

That is total bullsh*t - the producers have shoved the fauxmance down our throats 24/7 - there were plenty of other interesting characters in the house who got voted out because not enough air time was allocated to them, or walked because they realised that it was already a done deal so far as BB were concerned that JJ&J were to be in the final. The viewers have been cheated out of a good show this year because of this blatant favouritism and bias. Not once have either of these camera *****s received a fitting punishment for their frequent and arrogantly blatant rule breaks.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by angus58

That is total bullsh*t - the producers have shoved the fauxmance down our throats 24/7 - there were plenty of other interesting characters in the house who got voted out because not enough air time was allocated to them, or walked because they realised that it was already a done deal so far as BB were concerned that JJ&J were to be in the final. The viewers have been cheated out of a good show this year because of this blatant favouritism and bias. Not once have either of these camera *****s received a fitting punishment for their frequent and arrogantly blatant rule breaks.

I'm sorry but that doesn't make any logical sense. The producers want viewers watching so It would be in their best interest to show what will will appeal to most people.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

They haven't ruined anything, If there was something more interesting going then that would have been shown instead.

give over, theres at least ten things i could name that happened tuesday that could have been shown instead of duvet dancing. Keep it real eh, your a mod fgs.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

give over, theres at least ten things i could name that happened tuesday that could have been shown instead of duvet dancing. Keep it real eh, your a mod fgs.

Because I'm a mod I should have the same opinion as you?

[stonedape]

I agree that most of the irrational stuff comes from the haters, not the supposed "teenybopper" JJJ supporters. They typically involve ad hominems + repeating the word fake. All anyone talks about anymore is biased editing and "I'm sick of the X show" when in reality the editors do a relatively fair job at showing the most interesting moments of the day. It's not that unfair. The characters who get tons of air time, in general but not always, provide the most consistent entertainment.

Ben fans should understand, as the same "you only like Ben because the editors want you to he's actually REALLY BORING/SATAN" crap was used against Ben last week.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by stonedape

I agree that most of the irrational stuff comes from the haters, not the supposed "teenybopper" JJJ supporters. They typically involve ad hominems + repeating the word fake. All anyone talks about anymore is biased editing and "I'm sick of the X show" when in reality the editors do a relatively fair job at showing the most interesting moments of the day. It's not that unfair. The characters who get tons of air time, in general but not always, provide the most consistent entertainment.

Ben fans should understand, as the same "you only like Ben because the editors want you to he's actually REALLY BORING/SATAN" crap was used against Ben last week.

Just as there are some infantile JJ&J fans on this and other forums, there are no doubt equal numbers of this type of fan for every HM. Such fans of every HM often resort to repetitive, meaningless insults as they are probably ill-educated and have a limited vocabulary. Either that or they resort to typing in large font as if the size of the words they write are somehow made more meaningful!

Nevertheless, every criticism I, myself, have made of JJ&J has been grounded in factual events and conversations I have witnessed and heard for myself, and whilst my descriptive language of these two individuals is often colourful, it is always apposite and appropriate to the point I am making or opinion I am expressing. Some of us are able to express ourselves in words of more than one syllable, and I take great delight in finding the mot juste to describe a HM I either like or loathe. If fans of the HMs I dislike object to my opinions of their faves, they have the option to respond with their point of view and opinions - unfortunately, such responses often take the form of "yah sucks boo" rather than any meaningful rebuttal.

[fizzy]

LOL comb my hair ffs it's an old photo anyway LOL

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by angus58

Just as there are some infantile JJ&J fans on this and other forums, there are no doubt equal numbers of this type of fan for every HM. Such fans of every HM often resort to repetitive, meaningless insults as they are probably ill-educated and have a limited vocabulary. Either that or they resort to typing in large font as if the size of the words they write are somehow made more meaningful!

Nevertheless, every criticism I, myself, have made of JJ&J has been grounded in factual events and conversations I have witnessed and heard for myself, and whilst my descriptive language of these two individuals is often colourful, it is always apposite and appropriate to the point I am making or opinion I am expressing. Some of us are able to express ourselves in words of more than one syllable, and I take great delight in finding the mot juste to describe a HM I either like or loathe. If fans of the HMs I dislike object to my opinions of their faves, they have the option to respond with their point of view and opinions - unfortunately, such responses often take the form of "yah sucks boo" rather than any meaningful rebuttal.

Another great post from Angus

[joeysteele]

The house is DEAD since BEN went out, and many people I know that just watch the show, not particularly liking anyone strongly have said that with no prompting from me, or people I know who are Jjames fans prompting either.As for picking on anyone, isnt this thread by whoever started it, picking on and getting at BEN fans anyway.

[joeysteele]

I'm with Kazanne 100% on this topic, spot on, not a thing I disgree with.nor could any fair and decent minded other people either.
It does seem JJames has magician/hypnotist as part of part of his make up too, since it appears he can either brianwash or hypnotise people.it will never work on Kazanne and myself though.