[jaq7uk]

Originally Posted by Jaye

Can't see it closing.

i didnt go on any forums jaye as wasnt well. bloody slept thru it, so caught up today.....

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by jaq7uk

i didnt go on any forums jaye as wasnt well. bloody slept thru it, so caught up today.....

Oh I thought you meant the whole forum closing down. A lot of people have been wondering if it will.

[teetotal_michael]

Thought I'd do some of my own investigation into planning permission rather than go on what other people say, and it turns out there is some substance to what has been said. I've attached a screenshot of the planning application;



BUT, it gets better...

Here are links to the documents attached to the application;

http://www2.hertsmere.gov.uk/ACOLNET...CS/38531_1.pdf
http://www2.hertsmere.gov.uk/ACOLNET...CS/38532_1.pdf

The second one is the one of interest, especially section 6 on page 2!

Happy reading

[Harry!]

Big Brother the reincarnation...rises from the dead.

[BBfan46]

Don't know what to make of that.

[NeoPhoenix]

Damn, I hope there's not another BB soon. I'm american, and I've loved BB10 (my first experience with BBUK), BB11, and UBB, but damn do you guys run BB into the ground. No wonder it's gone off the air lol. It's so overexposed, it is ridiculous. Not only is there a show daily but all these spinoff shows like BBLB and BBBM just serve to water down the show. It'd be a nice change of pace (if it did come back) if it was somewhat americanized for a season where it aired maybe every other day and had more of a gameplay aspect to it. To me it'd be pretty cool to see how the housemates would adjust to that type of series, at least just for one season.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

Damn, I hope there's not another BB soon. I'm american, and I've loved BB10 (my first experience with BBUK), BB11, and UBB, but damn do you guys run BB into the ground. No wonder it's gone off the air lol. It's so overexposed, it is ridiculous. Not only is there a show daily but all these spinoff shows like BBLB and BBBM just serve to water down the show. It'd be a nice change of pace (if it did come back) if it was somewhat americanized for a season where it aired maybe every other day and had more of a gameplay aspect to it. To me it'd be pretty cool to see how the housemates would adjust to that type of series, at least just for one season.

Nah us british like "reality tv" not the over dramatised american "reaity" shows.

You guys seem to like to play dramatic music over everything.

[mike888]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

Damn, I hope there's not another BB soon. I'm american, and I've loved BB10 (my first experience with BBUK), BB11, and UBB, but damn do you guys run BB into the ground. No wonder it's gone off the air lol. It's so overexposed, it is ridiculous. Not only is there a show daily but all these spinoff shows like BBLB and BBBM just serve to water down the show. It'd be a nice change of pace (if it did come back) if it was somewhat americanized for a season where it aired maybe every other day and had more of a gameplay aspect to it. To me it'd be pretty cool to see how the housemates would adjust to that type of series, at least just for one season.

OMG No thank you, the American version is pants compared to the British version. The public have no say in the outcome of evictions etc and it's completely over dramatised.

E4 screened the American version a couple of years ago and dropped it like a hot brick due to poor viewing figures. I'm not surprised, I sat through 2 episodes and thought what a load of ****e it was compared to the British version and never watched anymore.

You've sent us Shameless and Desperate Housewives, PLEASE spare us from an Americanised Big Brother!!!

[NeoPhoenix]

Originally Posted by mike888

OMG No thank you, the American version is pants compared to the British version. The public have no say in the outcome of evictions etc and it's completely over dramatised.

E4 screened the American version a couple of years ago and dropped it like a hot brick due to poor viewing figures. I'm not surprised, I sat through 2 episodes and thought what a load of ****e it was compared to the British version and never watched anymore.

You've sent us Shameless and Desperate Housewives, PLEASE spare us from an Americanised Big Brother!!!

I'm not a fan of BB US being so dramatized. What I was referring to when I said to maybe americanize it for a season had more to do with the structure of the show. First thing being, stop showing it every single bloody day. That and cutting out all the filler shows like BBBM and BBLB. It's just a completely overexposed show which is why it's dead now while the American version is still trucking along. When it's not aired every single day, there's a bit more excitement when you finally do get to watch an episode. I like BBUK, it's much different than the American version but I find myself getting a bit bored with it towards the end of a series. It all becomes a tad bit predictable at that point.

And really, what's wrong with not letting the public decide who goes? I can't count how many times I've come on this forum lurking and seen people bitching halfway through the season because the public decide to vote out all the interesting and entertaining housemates in the early evictions leaving the boring, nice housemates in the house. It gets so boring they have to introduce new housemates throughout the series to liven things up again. BB11 somewhat rectified that by having the save/replace tasks. If not for those, Dave would have been out pretty early on. I didn't like Dave early in the series, but he grew on me in the later weeks. Letting the public decide was also the reason Steve, one of the most utterly worthless and boring housemates I've ever seen, was allowed to stay for so long. Reason being is people in the house were too afraid to nominate him because it might make them look bad to the public. I'm not asking for it be a full on copy of BBUS, but I think adding some elements from it would make it an even better show than it already is.

I sat through 2 episodes and thought what a load of ****e it was compared to the British version and never watched anymore.

BBUS takes a bit to get into. I didn't like it at first with the first season I watched. It's when alliances get formed and all the "fat" in the house gets trimmed that it becomes really entertaining. Though this past season has been kind of disappointing to be honest. It's usually pretty good once it gets rolling though.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by mike888

OMG No thank you, the American version is pants compared to the British version. The public have no say in the outcome of evictions etc and it's completely over dramatised.

E4 screened the American version a couple of years ago and dropped it like a hot brick due to poor viewing figures. I'm not surprised, I sat through 2 episodes and thought what a load of ****e it was compared to the British version and never watched anymore.

You've sent us Shameless and Desperate Housewives, PLEASE spare us from an Americanised Big Brother!!!

im british and i like there big brother because the public dont get involved.

could you imagine bb9uk with there rules? a bore like rachel rice wouldnt have won.

[BBfan46]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

im british and i like there big brother because the public dont get involved.

could you imagine bb9uk with there rules? a bore like rachel rice wouldnt have won.

but it's oh so typical of America to take something change it and call it the same name, bit like our language. Big Brother is designed to have public influence otherwise it's the Apprentice, Big Brother is designed to have vote to evict otherwise it's I'm a Celeb. Need I point out that the most popular housemate of the current US Season (which I do not watch) was Britney and she didn't make the final either.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBfan46

but it's oh so typical of America to take something change it and call it the same name, bit like our language. Big Brother is designed to have public influence otherwise it's the Apprentice, Big Brother is designed to have vote to evict otherwise it's I'm a Celeb. Need I point out that the most popular housemate of the current US Season (which I do not watch) was Britney and she didn't make the final either.

well i think it should be like im a celeb or bbusa so the entertainers could stay in.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by mike888

OMG No thank you, the American version is pants compared to the British version. The public have no say in the outcome of evictions etc and it's completely over dramatised.

E4 screened the American version a couple of years ago and dropped it like a hot brick due to poor viewing figures. I'm not surprised, I sat through 2 episodes and thought what a load of ****e it was compared to the British version and never watched anymore.

You've sent us Shameless and Desperate Housewives, PLEASE spare us from an Americanised Big Brother!!!

Shameless is a UK show, they're doing an american version but it was a UK show first.

[BBfan46]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

Damn, I hope there's not another BB soon. I'm american, and I've loved BB10 (my first experience with BBUK), BB11, and UBB, but damn do you guys run BB into the ground. No wonder it's gone off the air lol. It's so overexposed, it is ridiculous. Not only is there a show daily but all these spinoff shows like BBLB and BBBM just serve to water down the show. It'd be a nice change of pace (if it did come back) if it was somewhat americanized for a season where it aired maybe every other day and had more of a gameplay aspect to it. To me it'd be pretty cool to see how the housemates would adjust to that type of series, at least just for one season.

Fairly certain BBUS did 2 seasons of the regular 11 week show in 1 year and you watching OUR version so...

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

Damn, I hope there's not another BB soon. I'm american, and I've loved BB10 (my first experience with BBUK), BB11, and UBB, but damn do you guys run BB into the ground. No wonder it's gone off the air lol. It's so overexposed, it is ridiculous. Not only is there a show daily but all these spinoff shows like BBLB and BBBM just serve to water down the show. It'd be a nice change of pace (if it did come back) if it was somewhat americanized for a season where it aired maybe every other day and had more of a gameplay aspect to it. To me it'd be pretty cool to see how the housemates would adjust to that type of series, at least just for one season.

I agree with this to some extent - that BB UK is overexposed. The majority of HMs are either stereotypes or 1 dimensional 'freaks' that have no depth because of what Ch4 allowed to be broadcast. And the spin-off shows are just as gimmicky and overexposed. If BB became more adult oriented again and had the balls to allow arguments to escalate just a bit more and portray a bit mroe nudity and not overdo the spin-offs with 'whacky' features, maybe that would work. Even when Russell did Big Mouth 3/5 (however many) nights a week it was whacky but more adult.

I quite liked the montages used for CBB7, BB11 and UBB because it freshenned it up a bit and wasn't so 'Americanised'. It was plain and simple music during tasks that gave it a bit more pace.

I'm a bit cautious about the idea of airing eps every other day. In BB3 and 4 it was still on 7 nights a week with Saturday being a live task rather than a highlights show and Sunday's hour long ep covering the highlights from Friday and Saturday - which worked. It wasn't so gimmicky, it was more factual and adult. However, BB8 had NO Saturday shows and also tried to fit the highlights from Friday and Saturday in to an hour long Sunday show which failed miserably because everything was so overexposed. I remember one Sunday show started moments before a HM's eviction (think it was BB8's Nicky) so just think how much footage happened that day that was never broadcast.

[DigitalMethod]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

Damn, I hope there's not another BB soon. I'm american, and I've loved BB10 (my first experience with BBUK), BB11, and UBB, but damn do you guys run BB into the ground. No wonder it's gone off the air lol. It's so overexposed, it is ridiculous. Not only is there a show daily but all these spinoff shows like BBLB and BBBM just serve to water down the show. It'd be a nice change of pace (if it did come back) if it was somewhat americanized for a season where it aired maybe every other day and had more of a gameplay aspect to it. To me it'd be pretty cool to see how the housemates would adjust to that type of series, at least just for one season.

As you said, you are American. I dont think you understand the British Demographic as well as you think.
What the British public wants and what the US public wants are 2 completely different things.

/unbiased Canadian.

[Jords]

Would be good but would look tacky after the whole 'this is the last time' shenanigens on Friday.

[Jamesy]

Wouldn't surprise me if CBB came back again, the ratings were great with the last CBB so it would make sense to bring it back. But it does make C4 look like idiots with all this: "The last BB EVER" crap.

[bigbrothermaniac008]

It is 100% Happening, As the lease to keep the house has been extended. Exept will Davina return?

Celebrity Big Brother In January, But Channel 5 BB auditions will not be able to start till Feb as they cannot make an announcement that BB will return till its finished on C4.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by bigbrothermaniac008

It is 100% Happening, As the lease to keep the house has been extended. Exept will Davina return?

Celebrity Big Brother In January, But Channel 5 BB auditions will not be able to start till Feb as they cannot make an announcement that BB will return till its finished on C4.

Source that says it's "100% happening"?

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by bigbrothermaniac008

It is 100% Happening, As the lease to keep the house has been extended. Exept will Davina return?

Celebrity Big Brother In January, But Channel 5 BB auditions will not be able to start till Feb as they cannot make an announcement that BB will return till its finished on C4.

I wish they just did ULTIMATE BB in January..... but hey ho!!

Yes.. it will be "BB is back from the dead ONE LAST TIME"

Then BB moves to channel 5 next summer!

WOO HOO!

[mike888]

Originally Posted by Jack_

In January?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/gameon/vi...-to-Channel-4/

I know it's the Daily Star but...

It wasn't the Daily Star Jack it was The Star on Sunday, and yep C4 have confirmed it's a load of BS, UBB was DEFINATELY the last one on C4

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by mike888

It wasn't the Daily Star Jack it was The Star on Sunday,

Do you have a degree in pedanticism?

[NeoPhoenix]

I don't like the vote to save or the vote to evict by the public, because as I said before people tend to vote out who they "don't like" at the expense of the entertainment of the show. I'd argue for not letting the public vote for anything regarding evictions. The whole premise of the show revolves around a number of housemates being isolated from everything but each other. To me, letting the public decide who stays or who goes betrays that premise by having an outside influence on the house.

You also tend to see people in there being fake and pandering to the public or acting like they don't care about winning in order to endear themselves to the public. If you take out the fear of the public from the game, you'll probably see more people acting truer to who they really are.

Need I point out that the most popular housemate of the current US Season (which I do not watch) was Britney and she didn't make the final either.

I don't see what that has to do with anything. She was my favorite as well, but she also had her chance to stay in the house and was beaten in competition. That and she was at fault for not recognizing an obvious alliance in the house that she could have worked on earlier in the game with others to take out. A lot of bonehead moves were made this season. To me, I don't honestly care who wins BBUS. For me, entertainment is my primary motivator for watching and doesn't hinge on seeing my favorite win. And even with Britney gone, Enzo is still a funny guy to watch as well as Lane. As entertaining as only 3 left in the house can realistically be.

As you said, you are American. I dont think you understand the British Demographic as well as you think.
What the British public wants and what the US public wants are 2 completely different things.

/unbiased Canadian.

I never claimed I completely understood the British demographic. I did live there for a few years though so I'm not completely ignorant lol.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

I don't like the vote to save or the vote to evict by the public, because as I said before people tend to vote out who they "don't like" at the expense of the entertainment of the show.

That doesn't happen with Vote to Save though, because we get to vote to keep the entertaining housemates in, and we can outvote the clueless fools who want the entertaining housemates out. Everyone votes for their favourites, and the bores who have no favourites leave. It's perfect.