[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by angus58

We have been throwing money at Africa for decades and until the corruption and fraud that exists in dictatorships is tackled it is futile donating any more.
Once funds are sent to a country it is then under the control of whatever regime happens to be in power.

A country which spent centuries creating domestic wealth by exploiting foreign colonies barely living up to a target of spending 0.7% of our annual GDP on foreign aid is hardly what I would call throwing money at Africa.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

A country which spent centuries creating domestic wealth by exploiting foreign colonies barely living up to a target of spending 0.7% of our annual GDP on foreign aid is hardly what I would call throwing money at Africa.

It wouldn't matter if we spent 70% of our annual GDP on foreign aid since it would still not be deployed to the intended target, but would find its way into the private coffers of corrupt officials in corrupt regimes. There has to be a much more radical intervention than a purely financial one, but what some might view as liberation, would be viewed by others as invasion and occupation, so you're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by angus58

It wouldn't matter if we spent 70% of our annual GDP on foreign aid since it would still not be deployed to the intended target, but would find its way into the private coffers of corrupt officials in corrupt regimes. There has to be a much more radical intervention than a purely financial one, but what some might view as liberation, would be viewed by others as invasion and occupation, so you're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.

Well it's no secret that corruption is rife in developing countries and recipients of foreign aid. The worst offender is North Korea, which spends an obscene proportion of its money on the military. I'm still not convinced that this is a good enough reason for this country not to even meet the UN's international aid target. The US is the worst offender on this count. Foreign aid is prone to misuse, but it also saves lives and even improve people's quality of life in the long term.

[Smithy]

Feed the poor to the hungry and solve to of the worlds problems

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Feed the poor to the hungry and solve to of the worlds problems

Why not feed the rich to the hungry and redistribute their wealth accordingly.

Would also get rid of the selfish brats who think Daddy's money makes them something special.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Why not feed the rich to the hungray and redistribute their wealth accordingly.

Would also get rid of the selfish brats who think Daddy's money makes them something special.

Ok then, do that.

[arista]

For a Start
No more Money for Greece.

Take them out of the €uro
Wipe them Clean.

Change them to Dollars.

[Tom4784]

*wipes a tear of laughter away*

I love you Arista.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

*wipes a tear of laughter away*

I love you Arista.

your not so bad
Youself
Dezzy.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Some interesting views out there, I'm quite glad the thread took off well.

I generally think changes cannot be made by only one generation, nor 2. I think it takes time but the sooner the better. Were people happier before than nowadays ? People tend to say yes because it was less superficial, less technology, less individualism but I think we, as humans, have showed enough intelligence to make some parts of life better and taking lessons from our past. So I can't see why we cannot apply this intelligence to solve a few issues.

For example, an extra 6% on everyone's annual tax would guarantee the end of famine in Africa. Would you be happy to pay it? I would be annoyed of course but it's a harm for the better. I just think it's time to take into ourselves and take advantage from our skills to solve issues. And take that from a guy who isn't so keen on charity and stuff.

Money alone wont solve Africa's problems though

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Money alone wont solve Africa's problems though

No but I believe in the saying "Love does much, Money does more".
Of course money doesn't buy everything, but let's face it, Africa needs money. Now the problem is how to make the people benefit that money and stop corruption because that's possibly the worst part of it.
It's all great making wonderful happy pink pony songs about how we should help Africa...yet that doesn't help anything at all.

But on a general basis, I think the world needs more concrete, decent, meaningful, reality based decisions.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

No but I believe in the saying "Love does much, Money does more".
Of course money doesn't buy everything, but let's face it, Africa needs money. Now the problem is how to make the people benefit that money and stop corruption because that's possibly the worst part of it.
It's all great making wonderful happy pink pony songs about how we should help Africa...yet that doesn't help anything at all.

But on a general basis, I think the world needs more concrete, decent, meaningful, reality based decisions.

Unfortunately, the dictatorships that exist in a lot of African countries are responsible for the poverty and starvation of their own people, and there is precious little that the western world can do bar going to war to remove those regimes. I'm sure if oil were discovered in Zimbabwe for instance, the USA would be first in there to "liberate" the oppressed peoples, whilst bagging the oilfields for themselves

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Money alone wont solve Africa's problems though

True.


China is there now
taking Metals and Loads more

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

peter griffin

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by simonsays

peter griffin

American Dad > Family Guy.

yep, that's right !

[Grimnir]

Youtube video

[arista]

Originally Posted by Grimnir

Youtube video

Yes World War 3
could do that.

[abbey97]

Stop the war for a starter as we are all humans, whats the point in killing half the worlds population over some disagreements. The saying 'fight your own battles' must not be known to the gouverments and the states of many different countries as all they do is drag in their armies to battle for them, killing the lifes of many innocent people!