[MeMyselfAndI]

she would actually be the worst winner ever

she is so boring.. and she just shouts tbh
and she doesnt exactly look like a pop star
she wouldnt get any other support outside her voters because she is too old and just ugly

[Z]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

at the end of the day though only one person is going to win so it doesn't matter that much which order they go in, the top 3 or 4 will be there till the end anyhow no matter who they sing before or after

I disagree; in the early weeks it definitely helps to not be amongst the first few acts to perform, if you can land yourself a performance near the end each week it'll do you more favours. Obviously once people have decided their favourites, that settles things, but people generally don't pick favourites until a week or two into the competition. I still don't have a favourite!

Anyway, I'm really pleased for Mary if this is true, she deserves to be doing well! I wonder if her being in the top two has anything to do with the Irish finally being allowed to vote in the X Factor again...?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

she would actually be the worst winner ever

she is so boring.. and she just shouts tbh
and she doesnt exactly look like a pop star
she wouldnt get any other support outside her voters because she is too old and just ugly

God, are there actually any adults on this forum today?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

she would actually be the worst winner ever

she is so boring.. and she just shouts tbh
and she doesnt exactly look like a pop star
she wouldnt get any other support outside her voters because she is too old and just ugly

Seriously Jack? personally I listen to music because I like the sound of it, I really couldn't care less what age, size or how pretty the person singing is.

Originally Posted by Zee

I disagree; in the early weeks it definitely helps to not be amongst the first few acts to perform, if you can land yourself a performance near the end each week it'll do you more favours. Obviously once people have decided their favourites, that settles things, but people generally don't pick favourites until a week or two into the competition. I still don't have a favourite!

Anyway, I'm really pleased for Mary if this is true, she deserves to be doing well! I wonder if her being in the top two has anything to do with the Irish finally being allowed to vote in the X Factor again...?

Well, I meant at this stage Greg, I think most people have their favourites by now.

And I don't actually think Ireland being able to vote has effected Marys success much. You can see yourself how popular she is in the studio and there would be mainly UK people in there

[Z]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Seriously Jack? personally I listen to music because I like the sound of it, I really couldn't care less what age, size or how pretty the person singing is.




Well, I meant at this stage Greg, I think most people have their favourites by now.

And I don't actually think Ireland being able to vote has effected Marys success much. You can see yourself how popular she is in the studio and there would be mainly UK people in there

I'm generally not one to buy into the "national pride vote" that Louis Walsh in particular raves on about, because Scottish people are generally miserable, depressive and do the exact opposite of what someone tells them to do rofl. But whenever there's an Irish act, Louis always supports them like mad, and I think national pride is a lot stronger in Ireland when it comes to the X Factor, especially now that they can vote again... I dunno, just a theory!

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

she would actually be the worst winner ever

she is so boring.. and she just shouts tbh
and she doesnt exactly look like a pop star
she wouldnt get any other support outside her voters because she is too old and just ugly

Does the name Susan Boyle ring a bell? No? Okay...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zee

I'm generally not one to buy into the "national pride vote" that Louis Walsh in particular raves on about, because Scottish people are generally miserable, depressive and do the exact opposite of what someone tells them to do rofl. But whenever there's an Irish act, Louis always supports them like mad, and I think national pride is a lot stronger in Ireland when it comes to the X Factor, especially now that they can vote again... I dunno, just a theory!

hhmmm, I don't know, I have no doubt that some people would do that but by and large I think that most Irish people will just vote for their favourite, I know all the people that I know who watch it like Mary but she's not their favourite and won't be getting their vote (me included!)

[Legend killer]

Not surprised at all i have said ever since first week of live shows she would win , she's just got that likeablilty factor across all ages

[Lewis.]

I wouldn't be surprised. People feel for her and she's different compared to the rest. She seems like someone people can relate to and the public like that.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Does the name Susan Boyle ring a bell? No? Okay...

did she win?... okay...

[Legend killer]

Originally Posted by Lewis.

I wouldn't be surprised. People feel for her and she's different compared to the rest. She seems like someone people can relate to and the public like that.

Perfectly said

[robb]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

at the end of the day though only one person is going to win so it doesn't matter that much which order they go in, the top 3 or 4 will be there till the end anyhow no matter who they sing before or after

The stats so far prove that the acts who have sung first or second have, in most cases, been in trouble. Katie was due to sing at the start in the second week, but played her face up and got it changed. Mary is doing well, so is matt, so is becky but lets be honest....... Cowell and co. would just love the final 3 to be Katie, Cher, and One Direction......

[Vicky.]

Shallow kids

It doesnt surprise me that mary has been topping the votes tbh. She is fantastic...only problem is, shes getting too 'samey'. This week might change that

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by robb

The stats so far prove that the acts who have sung first or second have, in most cases, been in trouble. Katie was due to sing at the start in the second week, but played her face up and got it changed. Mary is doing well, so is matt, so is becky but lets be honest....... Cowell and co. would just love the final 3 to be Katie, Cher, and One Direction......

ew, that would be awful Matt, Rebecca, and Aiden/Mary would be my ideal top 3

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

she as much a one trick pony as Cher is but the judges don't seem bothered about that..........

But Cher is contemporary and mixes up her styles. You can see where she would fit in todays charts.

Mary is just a straight up karaoke singer who wants to bang out the standards. Sorry but I dont think a show called the Xfactor should be seeking a winner as predictable and tedious as that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

But Cher is contemporary and mixes up her styles. You can see where she would fit in todays charts.

Mary is just a straight up karaoke singer who wants to bang out the standards. Sorry but I dont think a show called the Xfactor should be seeking a winner as predictable and tedious as that.

mixes up her styles??? what does that even mean, she looked like she was doing the exact same thing to me every week, sing averagely and rap badly

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

did she win?... okay...

I wasn't referring to her winning, I was referring to the part where you stated 'she wouldn't get any other support outside her voters' - so I'm assuming you meant no one would buy her music, in which case I referred to Susan Boyle, because people do buy her music. It had nothing to do with who won/will win/won't win.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

mixes up her styles??? what does that even mean, she looked like she was doing the exact same thing to me every week, sing averagely and rap badly

she sings, she raps, she moves.

Mary does only one of those things and its hardly original. I doubt the world is crying out for another album of cover versions of all the standard classics! Zzzz.

I dont see any great personality either.

[alc09]

Originally Posted by Zee

I'm generally not one to buy into the "national pride vote" that Louis Walsh in particular raves on about, because Scottish people are generally miserable, depressive and do the exact opposite of what someone tells them to do rofl.

Reel them in....

[Z]

Originally Posted by alc09

Reel them in....

?

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

...according to the Daily Star, Mary has never been out of the top two in the voting in the last three weeks, and she topped the vote in Week 1.

Sounds pretty likely to me. I reckon Matt, Aiden and Rebecca have been joining her in the top four.

That is a fascinating insight and one I have often thought about. I always wondered if the final act (no matter who) is getting more votes simply for the fact they are the last remembered (freshest in the mind) when the lines open.

I did not considered that someone following or preceding a favourite gets a sort of 'relative appearance' beat-down. Ouch!

Producers may be able to put some sorts of balances? When they give the audience the 'review' at the end they may reverse order of appearance or mix the order?
"Remember these acts [show the faces, clips, names numbers back to front]"

Then it is up to the voters to do the right thing and keep in mind each to their own merits.

But obviously this works for Producers too... for example if you want to get a Cher to the end - you know where to put her.

Interesting article.
Not surprised Mary is at the top - I think she is great too.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

What a nasty, childish post. Makes me wonder if you aren't a bit on the porky side.

Exactly my thought when I read that post,what IS the matter with some people that they think everyone should be young,skinny and arrogant,at least fat people can lose weight,spiteful ,nasty people just stay the same!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Exactly my thought when I read that post,what IS the matter with some people that they think everyone should be young,skinny and arrogant,at least fat people can lose weight,spiteful ,nasty people just stay the same!

so true!