[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Novo

And yet how **** would the show be if both of them went.. it would be like watching paint dry.. ****e dull performances every week from Matt, Rebecca and Mary... It's all been done before for the past 5/6 years..

eehhh yeah ok Matt and Rebecca stole the show last night

[Novo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

eehhh yeah ok Matt and Rebecca stole the show last night

Yeah well the show isn't won in one night luckily

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by Novo

And yet how **** would the show be if both of them went.. it would be like watching paint dry.. ****e dull performances every week from Matt, Rebecca and Mary... It's all been done before for the past 5/6 years..

Oh, I don't know.....I usually put the kids to bed when those two are on, myself. If you lost Katie and Cher, you could still get Friedman to stage a big production as a kind of interval act....don't think it would be any the poorer without either of the two most overestimated acts in the history of ex-factor. Personally, am fascinated to see what Matt, Rebecca, Aiden, Treyc and Paige come up with over the coming weeks. Am getting a bit meh about Mary....but she could always pull another show stopper out of the bag. And we always have Wagner for the over the top guilty pleasure type thing; he doesn't irritate me nearly as much as Katie and Cher.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Novo

Funny how most the people who hate Cher hate Katie has well...

I guess they just don't like performers, people with stage presence and personality

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I guess they just don't like performers, people with stage presence and personality

No I think it's more that we prefer to watch performers who have some vestige of talent to justify the "stage presence and personality". A decent singing voice helps. When I'm sat at home listening to my cds, stage presence and personality won't do it for me

[bbfan1991]

Cher through, I fear for some peoples blood temperatures every week!.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by angus58

No I think it's more that we prefer to watch performers who have some vestige of talent to justify the "stage presence and personality". A decent singing voice helps. When I'm sat at home listening to my cds, stage presence and personality won't do it for me

Then to be honest, I think you're watching the wrong show. The show is looking for an artist to attempt to tap into the commerical, mainstream market. The majority of mainstream artists have little talent [especially vocal talent] - but it doesn't matter as with vocal enhancing technology there's not a problem. Like it or loathe it, that's the way it works. And so a 'decent singing voice' isn't the most important element. And I think you're forgetting that touring and gigs is a massive thing at the moment, so yes, stage presence and personality are very, very important factors. Unless you're someone with outstanding vocal talent, you're not going to shift ticket sales. You wouldn't pay for tickets to Gaga and expect to see her standing in a black dress for two hours, would you?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Novo

Funny how most the people who hate Cher hate Katie has well...

I don't!
I think Cher sucks, but love Katie!

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

She brings in most of the headlines...oh I don't bloody know but it's annoying. She's too arrogant for my taste. Her speaking voice is annoying too. I don't see her lasting past one single after this is done. There are better looking girls out there that can actually sing and rap. Now that companies know people are craving for this kind of act maybe they will make an effort to sign a similar act worth our dosh and Cher will disappear into obscurity.

[fruit_cake]

I prefer Katie or Cher over Mary

[fruit_cake]

and Wagner obviously

[Novo]

Imagine

Matt, Rebecca Mary and Aiden/TreyC in the final 4

Everyone would be falling asleep.. the ratings would be down to just over 900,000 and they would be the die hard fans of the acts.

[fruit_cake]

Matt, Aiden and Rebecca in the final sounds pretty good to me!!! would be the best ever final

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Matt, Aiden and Rebecca in the final sounds pretty good to me!!! would be the best ever final

that would be my ideal 3 too

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Matt, Aiden and Rebecca in the final sounds pretty good to me!!! would be the best ever final

Perfect final

[Novo]

I'd rather One Direction won then Matt, Aiden, or Rebecca.. at least they would have a lot more success

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Novo

I'd rather One Direction won then Matt, Aiden, or Rebecca.. at least they would have a lot more success

they will probably be in the final atleast, I actually don't mind them

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Novo

I'd rather One Direction won then Matt, Aiden, or Rebecca.. at least they would have a lot more success

I don't think One Direction are crap,but I feel they try a bit too hard,if that makes sense? I kind of feel that they are always trying to outdance/sing each other.

Liam should have been in the boys category!

NOTE; mods/admin, could we have a "nods" smiley please?

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by happyland

I don't think One Direction are crap,but I feel they try a bit too hard,if that makes sense? I kind of feel that they are always trying to outdance/sing each other.

Liam should have been in the boys category!

NOTE; mods/admin, could we have a "nods" smiley please?

Liam's really good I agree

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Liam's really good I agree

Yeah, and although I thought Paige was good last night, I think Liam deserved to be in Danii's final 4 over him.

[fruit_cake]

yeah the poppy mafia are gonna be after her!!!!

[Novo]

All the old people will be voting Katie

" Oh look she has a Poppy on what a great respectful young girl!! Arthur vote 12 times! "

" Alright Dot pass me the phone "

That is what will be happening all over the UK

[nanaimo]

Originally Posted by Novo

All the old people will be voting Katie

" Oh look she has a Poppy on what a great respectful young girl!! Arthur vote 12 times! "

" Alright Dot pass me the phone "

That is what will be happening all over the UK

ever hear the term clutching at straws novo
what has ******ing poppies to do with rock n roll ...haha or the x factor for that matter

[joeysteele]

Liam is the strongest by far of One Direction, Zain is the weakest, he always seems to be looking for guidance as to what to do next, I also think it a mistake that Liam wasn't put through to the Boys category because he alone in One Direction is the organiser and improving one of the group.

As to Cher, I don't think she will be in danger this week,I would like her to be but I think Katie has the problem again and if Katie is in the last 2, it should be recalled the times she has been there in only 5 weeks.

[Z]

I don't get it either. She deserved praise last week; Simon went too far with it. She deserved criticism in weeks 2, 3 and 5 - but the worst she got was week 5: Simon saying it wasn't as good as last week. They're definitely refraining from criticising her properly and I don't understand why - generally speaking if the judges criticise a favourite, their fans go mental and vote for them even more to make sure they aren't in the bottom two. So clearly the votes aren't the issue, I think they just want to make her seem unstoppable.

Mary, in my opinion, unravelled a bit last week, and then last night completely lost all the credibility she'd built up for herself. She's no longer the 50 year old woman with the impressive voice who can sing anything - she's been shown as a one trick pony who has flopped about miserably both times she's been tasked with a song outside of her comfort zone. Maybe that was an intentional move from the judges to gear Cher up to the invincible position? They're doing a lot of undermining of other, better acts in favour of Cher!