[nanaimo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I don't think Paije will be in the bottom at all, I really like him, I especially liked him last week, he's going up in my estimations

would prefer paije in bottom 2 not because i don't like him but think there would be a better chnace of katie going with him in it, instead of wagner v katie, we know how that voting would go

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

would prefer paije in bottom 2 not because i don't like him but think there would be a better chnace of katie going with him in it, instead of wagner v katie, we know how that voting would go

I don't know though, I think after all the controversy last week and the fact that it will be her 4th time there, I think they would have to get rid of her no matter who she faces, even Wagner

[nanaimo]

yeah thats the problem

[nanaimo]

not wagner, danni, cheryl and simon will not save him

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

not wagner, danni, cheryl and simon will not save him

I really believe that if Wagner ends up in the bottom that Louis and Simon would save him

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

not wagner, danni, cheryl and simon will not save him

well Simon said last week that he 'quite liked' Wagners song.. he did exactly the same last year and the week after booted out Lucie and kept Jedward

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well Simon said last week that he 'quite liked' Wagners song.. he did exactly the same last year and the week after booted out Lucie and kept Jedward

yep, in fact I would actually put money on the fact that if those two are in the bottom he'll save Wagner

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

yep, in fact I would actually put money on the fact that if those two are in the bottom he'll save Wagner

lol.. he'll make it look like a really surprise decision too I can just see his faked surprised smile

[nanaimo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

yep, in fact I would actually put money on the fact that if those two are in the bottom he'll save Wagner

Fingers crossed

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

Fingers crossed

I'm always waiting every week for Wagner to be in the bottom though and it never happens, I wonder just how big this campaign is??

[nanaimo]

Well i play a huge game online which has about 14 million players and i posted on forums to vote for wagner so hopefully we will get half of them anyway

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

Well i play a huge game online which has about 14 million players and i posted on forums to vote for wagner so hopefully we will get half of them anyway

good luck with that, I'll be thinking of you Sunday if he escapes the bottom 2 again!!

[Tom4784]

Ofcom for once has got it right, The public don't have a say in who goes until the final weeks. For now you only get to choose who's in the bottom 2 unless it's taken to Deadlock. It's upto ITV how they determine who goes and it always has been. I think they made the right decision, Treyc was never going to be successful as by her own admission she had no interest in forming an artistic identity for herself. I'd prefer the bland people go rather then the interesting ones.

Ofcom has ruled that it's not a fix so drop it and stop being bitter, it's getting tiresome.

[nanaimo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Ofcom for once has got it right, The public don't have a say in who goes until the final weeks. For now you only get to choose who's in the bottom 2 unless it's taken to Deadlock. It's upto ITV how they determine who goes and it always has been. I think they made the right decision, Treyc was never going to be successful as by her own admission she had no interest in forming an artistic identity for herself. I'd prefer the bland people go rather then the interesting ones.

Ofcom has ruled that it's not a fix so drop it and stop being bitter, it's getting tiresome.

So says a katie fan

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

So says a katie fan

Well I'm obviouslyy going to be stunned into silence by that cliched retort now aren't I?

There's no fixes here, If Ofcom says there ain't anything wrong then there's nothing wrong. It's a fact. Try an argue against that or are you going to say 'So says a ____ fan' again?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well I'm obviouslyy going to be stunned into silence by that cliched retort now aren't I?

There's no fixes here, If Ofcom says there ain't anything wrong then there's nothing wrong. It's a fact. Try an argue against that or are you going to say 'So says a ____ fan' again?

Technically speaking maybe but people have a problem with the way they may have manipulated the situation by changing around they're normal procedures to avoid deadlock. If you don't agree that's your opinion but other peoples opinions are equally as valid even if you don't agree with them.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by dezzy

I'd prefer the bland people go rather then the interesting ones.

Dezzy why don't you think its ok to debate this then if you like the interesting things??

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Technically speaking maybe but people have a problem with the way they may have manipulated the situation by changing around they're normal procedures to avoid deadlock. If you don't agree that's your opinion but other peoples opinions are equally as valid even if you don't agree with them.

I'm not denying him an opinion, I'm just saying it's a fact now that it's not fixed. He can be in denial about it all he wants but that doesn't stop me from having an opinion on his opinion. It's a two way street Niamh.

Like I said, ITV are allowed to determine who goes however they wish, it's always been the case but people are okay with it as long as they get their own way. It's only a problem when they don't.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Ofcom for once has got it right, The public don't have a say in who goes until the final weeks. For now you only get to choose who's in the bottom 2 unless it's taken to Deadlock. It's upto ITV how they determine who goes and it always has been. I think they made the right decision, Treyc was never going to be successful as by her own admission she had no interest in forming an artistic identity for herself. I'd prefer the bland people go rather then the interesting ones.

Ofcom has ruled that it's not a fix so drop it and stop being bitter, it's getting tiresome.

If people are annoyed, they're allowed talk about it Dezzy

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

If people are annoyed, they're allowed talk about it Dezzy

They've got no room to be though, it ain't fixed and if they wanted Treyc through that badly they should have voted, Simple as. The fact is no one cared about her but they're just using her as a reason to rage now because they can.

People like having a reason to complain and hate.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

They've got no room to be though, it ain't fixed and if they wanted Treyc through that badly they should have voted, Simple as. The fact is no one cared about her but they're just using her as a reason to rage now because they can.

People like having a reason to complain and hate.

They have no reason in your opinion but in theirs and mine, we do. They may not have broken any rules but imo they manipulated the situation to suit what they wanted, which if nothing else is unfair (imo)

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

They have no reason in your opinion but in theirs and mine, we do. They may not have broken any rules but imo they manipulated the situation to suit what they wanted, which if nothing else is unfair (imo)

All reality shows manipulate situations, BB did it frequently which often influenced evictions. It's a fact of reality TV that it can be manipulated however the producers want it and it's been that way ever since Reality TV began. If the public had total control most shows would be incredibly dull as by large the voting public are stupid and irrational and as a whole nearly always makes the wrong decisions on all Reality shows with votes.

[nanaimo]

having cheryl going second was a fix, how can you justify that one?

[fruit_cake]

I don't see what harm a bit of gossip on an internet forum is going to do.. the worlds not going to end I reckon

[nanaimo]

I have friends in Canada and they have been watching it and they don't have the tabloids and news we have here but their reaction was FIX and it has even been on some tv stations there as x factor fix, so you say its not but alot of people feel it is i'm afraid.