[Tom]

It would be funny if he did but I don't think he will

On Saturday he was the last act to be called out, often when that happens, that person is in the bottom 2 the following week.

I think todays story about him being in the top half of voting each week is just a herring for people to stop voting for him on the merit that he'll get through on other peoples votes and so he'll end up in this weeks bottom 2

[Mr XcX]

No he will not win

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I'm voting because I like him though.

The anti simon vote is just a way of showing him that people wont be manipulated into voting the way he wants them to. Yes he still gets money, but his show loses credibility. I can nearly 100% guarantee that if Wagner won, next year we would have no joke acts put through past bootcamp, for fear of it happening again...so only talent will make the live shows

Fair enough if you genuinely like him,but it was NOT Simon who put Wagner through it was Louis,and if what you say is true how is that fair to this years acts?I hope this one is the last,it's really not enjoyable anymore,and how has Simon manipulated people into voting how he wants?In my opinion people vote how they want to,IF he was THAT powerful he could easily manipulate the votes and people to get Wagner out.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

This. Simon wont be so cocky putting thru acts cuz their 'interesting'. The show needs to concentrate more on the talent than on Simons bank balance.

See,there we go again,why is money earned by Simon such a big deal?and again it was NOT simon that put Wagner through,it was LOUIS.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Fair enough if you genuinely like him,but it was NOT Simon who put Wagner through it was Louis,and if what you say is true how is that fair to this years acts?I hope this one is the last,it's really not enjoyable anymore,and how has Simon manipulated people into voting how he wants?In my opinion people vote how they want to,IF he was THAT powerful he could easily manipulate the votes and people to get Wagner out.

Simon gave him a yes at auditions as did Cheryl. Simon also put him through bootcamp and to judges houses. Ultimately Louis put him through to the live shows, but wasnt he his wildcard choice?

Simon tries to manipulate people to vote for who he wants via various methods...leaking negative/positive stories to the press...over praising acts, telling people certain acts are safe when they are far from it...that kind of thing. And also this year, the decision of saving katie 4 times even though it is obviously against the publics wishes has guaranteed Wagner a LOT more votes than he originally had.

It is not fair on this years acts, I agree, but something has to be done about the farce this show is becoming.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Simon won't let him win either way, do you really think he would have him on his label and releasing an album? He would just make sure the press was negative for the week leading up to it, and then if Wagner still got the most votes he would probably just fix it.

If it looks like a Wagner win is possible then Simon will just amend the record contract to decrease its value and probably make it so he'll be able to drop Wagner after the winners single. If he does win it will be a good wake up call for them to stop putting through novelty acts ahead of genuine acts, it happens year after year

I hope he does win because then they can stop overhyping the show. Wagner will be a massive stain on the shows (lack of) credibility and there is no way they can twist that in a positive light

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

I hope he does win because then they can stop overhyping the show. Wagner will be a massive stain on the shows (lack of) credibility and there is no way they can twist that in a positive light

There has also been rumours that the winner of this years XF will be opening the first show of XF USA. Imagine Simon introducing Wagner as the best singer UK could find...would be priceless

Though as I said, they are just rumours, and if true he would probably change all that and put leona on instead, but the thought is amusing

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

There has also been rumours that the winner of this years XF will be opening the first show of XF USA. Imagine Simon introducing Wagner as the best singer UK could find...would be priceless

thats worth voting for!!

[Mystic Mock]

no chance,but i do think he could get 3rd or 4th.

[Jordan.]

NO. The furthest he will possibly get is the Semi Final, Then he'll be back in his cave for the rest of his life.

[joeysteele]

There is as kazanne says something different as to Wagners votes, I have in past weeks given him a vote but he wouldn't ever be my choice to win it.

Having said that I know a great many people who are voting for him week in week out, they have also increased considerably their votes for him, the odd thing further is that many of them don't even watch X Factor they just have the voting number for Wagner and are voting for him.
Some have never even seen his perform, they are doing it just to get at Simon as its his show and they wrongly believe Simon has brought the music industry down.

As someone said to me on here when I mentioned that before, those people voting for Wagner cannot see that they are not really bothering Simon, he is raking in the funds for his show from all the phone calls so cannot lose really.

[Jack_]

He's in with a chance, and, I'll admit, it would be fairly amusing...for the first few minutes. Oh, and if he got Christmas #1, but that's it really.

People are entitled to vote for who they want, so there's not a problem there - but what makes me laugh the most is people who are backing Wagner to 'spite Simon'. This is where serious delusion comes into play. A Wagner win would ensure more controversy, more press attention, more hype for the next series and thus more viewers. All in all it should equal more votes and more money for him. Simon will never be beaten and it's about time some people grasped this.

With regards to the winner opening the XF USA Results Show - again, it's not Simon that will be to blame - it'll be the British public. This country will become a laughing stock in the eyes of the Americans. If that's what people want, then so be it. But Simon will not be affected or bothered. After all, it's the public that choses the winner - so it's them that will be laughed at, not Simon.

[nanaimo]

stop picking on wagner, you would think he just walked into the show himself, he was put through by louis, don't blame or hate him, hate louis and simon, because the latter loves the publicity and controversy, he is making money no matter what.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Simon gave him a yes at auditions as did Cheryl. Simon also put him through bootcamp and to judges houses. Ultimately Louis put him through to the live shows, but wasnt he his wildcard choice?

Simon tries to manipulate people to vote for who he wants via various methods...leaking negative/positive stories to the press...over praising acts, telling people certain acts are safe when they are far from it...that kind of thing. And also this year, the decision of saving katie 4 times even though it is obviously against the publics wishes has guaranteed Wagner a LOT more votes than he originally had.

It is not fair on this years acts, I agree, but something has to be done about the farce this show is becoming.

I really don't think Simon does that,I think he likes Katie that's all,it's a poor show when people are guided by someone elses view,surely they have their own mind,but there are an awful lot of sheep out there,or does Simon have some hypnotic powers that i am not aware of.If people want to be led by him,that's their fault.not his.

[King Gizzard]

Hopefully

Nothing funnier then seeing Simon have to sign this guy and lose a load of money (more than the amount that people have given him by voting Wagner in the first place)

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

thats worth voting for!!

What,you want the Americans to see that the British choice in music is ****e,lol,whatever floats your boat,I hope Simon explains that it is what the British voted for,LOL it even makes me laugh,what numpties we are,just to prove we can use a phone and vote.No wonder we never win anything

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nate

Hopefully

Nothing funnier then seeing Simon have to sign this guy and lose a load of money (more than the amount that people have given him by voting Wagner in the first place)

People really are deluded if they think Simon will lose from this,LOL,and why would it make you laugh to see him lose money?I don't get that,such envy is unhealthy.

[james130]

If Cher goes then i'll be voting for him.

[Zippy]

Even if he won everybody would know it was for perverse reasons. And he would totally fail as a musical artist in the real world. So it would be a shallow victory.

Simon wouldnt lose anything as he just wouldnt spend much on him anyways. It would be nothing to him financially on a personal level. He will make a lot more from the extra Wagner votes and all the extra publicity that him staying in the competition would generate.

So please dont anybody delude themselves that you can get at Cowell via Wagner. One direction will still get signed to his label. And any other artist he fancies too. So he's in a win win situation regardless.

[keithafc]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

Well Cher will be back up this week, some of her lazy fans thought she was safe last saturday But Wagner may just be one above the act of the bottom two every week or something... he won't get much further, I'll give him 2 more weeks.

Do you get paid by Cheryl cole or something to put these myths around? Cher was in the bottom two because she was voted the least, next to pajie. No one was lazy.

If that was the case, why do Matt and Rebecca still get votes? Chers time is coming to an end on the X factor. Same with Katie.

Wagner on the other hand seems to be growing in strength. I bet Wagner is getting more votes with every show.

[keithafc]

Wagners support is growing all the time, peoples favs who are going out are even voting for Wagner now. Huge campaigns too.

The whole Rage thing has changed the mentality and i think the X factor and Simon Cowell are in trouble because Wagner isn't going anywhere.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by keithafc

Wagners support is growing all the time, peoples favs who are going out are even voting for Wagner now. Huge campaigns too.

The whole Rage thing has changed the mentality and i think the X factor and Simon Cowell are in trouble because Wagner isn't going anywhere.

if matt goes after his behaviour this week then im going to wagner.

afterall if they can keep katie in four times then we can vote for wagner.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

if matt goes after his behaviour this week then im going to wagner.

afterall if they can keep katie in four times then we can vote for wagner.

If Matt goes this week then you really are the kiss of death because everybody youve supported so far has been dumped.

So please do move on to Wagner next.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zippy

If Matt goes this week then you really are the kiss of death because everybody youve supported so far has been dumped.

So please do move on to Wagner next.

for that im moving on to katie waissel then one direction.