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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange 'will release poison pill of damaging secrets if killed or arrested'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz17JZotN5B

He has a Master Plan
meanwhile in America on Fox News
they say he is a Terrorist
and must be arrested.

Of Course CNN does not see it that Evil.

But with Secrets of American
Interests or pipes will be of interest
to those Arab Terror Gangs
but you would think they would know all this.

Assange is in hiding
in England.
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz17JZotN5B


So he's a hipocrite then. He says he's all about getting the truth out, but he's not releasing this information unless he's killed???

If he's all about transparency and honesty, why doesn't he release it right now???

He's an attention *****. I really don't like this man. What a poseur.
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So he's a hipocrite then. He says he's all about getting the truth out, but he's not releasing this information unless he's killed???

If he's all about transparency and honesty, why doesn't he release it right now???

He's an attention *****. I really don't like this man. What a poseur.


Some Data should never go public,
he is saving that in case a Yank Hitman or Russian Nuke man kill him.
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Some Data should never go public,
he is saving that in case a Yank Hitman or Russian Nuke man kill him.

OIC, so basically, he realizes that releasing it would be a bad thing for the world, but if he's killed he thinks "well i'm dead, so ******* the world".

Shows what kind of morals this guy has. He thinks after he's dead, he doesn't give a flying crap what happens to the rest of us. That sounds sooo responsible. After i'm dead, let the world burn. Who gives a flip if it causes misery and suffering, i'll be gone, so ******* it!

What a hero. *rolls eyes*
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OIC, so basically, he realizes that releasing it would be a bad thing for the world, but if he's killed he thinks "well i'm dead, so ******* the world".


Good Point,
he thinks they will not get him
and this top secret data stays on a portable hard drive
in the Guardian Safe.

His Lawyer
is tying to deal with the Euro Sex Scandel against him
let alone the Death threats.
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Apart from this vile little man releasing information designed to spin the world into chaos....can anyone give me a good reason why he is still alive?

This dude really has been watching too many Bond movies.

i never imagined i'd ever say this in my lifetime.... but i actually agree with Sarah Palin. He needs to be neutralized.

Some random rapist hacker from australia does NOT have the right to decide what is right for the world. We have democratically elected officials to make those decisions.

Julian Assange thinks he has the right to make these decisions for us all?? but at the same time he says he believes in democracy???

And they say American's don't understand irony???
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Yes but Fox News, which I also watch
here in the UK,
is taking it like he is a Dead Man Walking.
Why does Fox News not question Barrack on this - Live?

CNN gives a better angle

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Yes but Fox News, which I also watch
here in the UK,
is taking it like he is a Dead Man Walking.
Why does Fox News not question Barrack on this - Live.

CNN gives a better angle
I don't watch any cable news, cnn, fox or msnbc. i've only been following this story on the guardian.

He's gone too far now. He's now released a specific list outlining all of the major targets to disable the US. No one can now say that this isn't an attack on the US.

Wikileaks has now released an actual list of targets against the US for terrorists. Can't wait to hear how Assange and his fat lawyer with bad hair is gonna justify this.
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Yes until a Attack
though, nothing is being done.


The President needs to talk about this
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Well i for one am glad to live in a democracy, where elected leaders are running the country, not some random dude from the internet.

If Dan Bull thinks he could do a better job, why isn't he running for public office?

I'm sick of all the people online, that have so much criticism, but do nothing about it. Why don't YOU try to run a country, see how easy the decisions seem then. Put YOUR name on the ballot then!

So many Monday morning quarterbacks.

We have the government that WE VOTED FOR. We live in democratic countries. The government is OF the people BY the people FOR the people. the government IS US. But so many people try to pretend they arn't accountable for their own government's actions.

people have no idea how hard it is to make these decisions. You are entrusted by the public to PROTECT them. You may think you know better, but you don't.

If you don't trust yur government, then DON'T ELECT THEM. Simple as that.
What utter shallow drivel the goverment are civil servants elected and employed by the public to represent the views of the majority of electorate.
It is the responsibility of the public to hold them to account for their policies and their actions and if you dont agree with them it is your responsibility to let them know and if need be vote for somebody else to replace them who you think will do a better job.

How can you make an informed decision on whether or not they are serving the people adequately and fairly when you condone them lying and hiding facts from the very people they represent.

You seem willing to go along with whatever your goverment decides is best for without even questioning them you come across as a sheep that wants to be herded without even wanting to know where you are being led that is scary and that is not democracy.

Who the hell said they wanted dan bull to lead the country? dont be stupid he is a musician who i said i agree with his views on wikileaks that is all.

edit:Oh i have just seen your location that explains a lot.
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...and the fact that you judge someone based on where they live, explains everything I need to know about you.

Of course you don't have all the information available, we don't elect leaders based on their policies ONLY, we elect leaders based on their capability to make decisions on our behalf.

Those who voted for lib-dem didn't vote based on just their policies, they voted lib-dem because they trusted that specific candidate to make judgements.

This also plays into the student fee's debate, because all these people who voted lib-dem are complaining that the lib-dems arn't fullfilling their policy commitments, but you don't just vote for a politician for their policies, you vote for them entrusting them to make JUDGEMENTS on your behalf.

You choose a representative, not a policy.

You vote for a PERSON, not a policy.
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You choose a representative, not a policy.

You vote for a PERSON, not a policy.
Thats not really true, a lot of voters on both sides of the Atlantic vote for the party, they have voted for all their lives. Be it Labour or Conservative. Democrat or Republican. Isnt that where the term dyed in the wool democrat comes from?
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Thats not really true, a lot of voters on both sides of the Atlantic vote for the party, they have voted for all their lives. Be it Labour or Conservative. Democrat or Republican. Isnt that where the term dyed in the wool democrat comes from?
Well i can' speak for britain, but that's not an excuse here in America, because we have the Primaries, where you get to vote for who represents yur party. You don't just vote for the party candidates here in America, you first have to vote in the primaries, where you choose who will represent each party.

i'm not sure if Britain has any primary system or not, but eigther way, it should be clear that you are voting for a REPRESENTATIVE, it's an actual person! It's not just a gimme vote on any given issue, it's an ACTUAL PERSON, doing a job.

I think a lot of people don't seem to understand the democratic republic model.

Time to catch up on your Plato people. Stop playing the victim.
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Well i can' speak for britain, but that's not an excuse here in America, because we have the Primaries, where you get to vote for who represents yur party. You don't just vote for the party candidates here in America, you first have to vote in the primaries, where you choose who will represent each party.

i'm not sure if Britain has any primary system or not, but eigther way, it should be clear that you are voting for a REPRESENTATIVE, it's an actual person! It's not just a gimme vote on any given issue, it's an ACTUAL PERSON, doing a job.

I think a lot of people don't seem to understand the democratic republic model.

Time to catch up on your Plato people. Stop playing the victim.
That is all well and good, but lets just say you were a democrat, they offer you three candidates in the run up to the primaries, you prefer candidate C, however candidate A gets the nomination, do you then not vote for him later in the election process?
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That is all well and good, but lets just say you were a democrat, they offer you three candidates in the run up to the primaries, you prefer candidate C, however candidate A gets the nomination, do you then not vote for him later in the election process?
i think maybe you misunderstand how democracy works... the majority rules, that means you don't always get what you want!

Do you have a better system?

I voted for Hillary clinton in the primaries, but i was left with barack obama as my candidate. i had my say, and i didn't win, so then i had another chice, john mccain or barack obama. I chose barack obama, not because of his policies, but because i trusted his JUDGEMENT.

I disagree with the democratic party on many issues, I don't vote on party lines, some do, i don't.

I vote for the person I trust to make decisions on my behalf. Am i unusual? I hope not.
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i think maybe you misunderstand how democracy works... the majority rules, that means you don't always get what you want!

Do you have a better system?
I know exactly how many democratic models work thank you very much. The democratic republic only being one model

I wish you would answer the point directly, do people always vote for the actual person as you suggested or as is often the case simply vote for the party they always have as I stated?
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I know exactly how many democratic models work thank you very much. The democratic republic only being one model

I wish you would answer the point directly, do people always vote for the actual person as you suggested or as is often the case simply vote for the party they always have as I stated?
I can only speak for myself, and i've already explained my understanding of voting.
You vote for the person you want to represent yur interests. no?

If you are so oblivious to everything, thatyou simply check a box because it's the party yur parents voted for, then you deserve exactly what you get. Sounds like those epople don't put much effort into the process to begin with, so how can they comlpain.

If you don't like any of the candidates running, then why arn't you running?
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I can only speak for myself, and i've already explained my understanding of voting.
You vote for the person you want to represent yur interests. no?

If you are so oblivious to everything, thatyou simply check a box because it's the party yur parents voted for, then you deserve exactly what you get. Sounds like those epople don't put much effort into the process to begin with, so how can they comlpain.

If you don't like any of the candidates running, then why arn't you running?
At the time of your original posting you hadnt explained your reasoning, you edited your post while I was writing and posting my last one. There are lots of people who do vote for a particular party because their families have always voted that way, if that suits them its fine after all its their vote.

People will always complain about politicians, policies etc because you simply cant please all the people all the time.

I never said I didnt like any of the candidates, running, I was merely pointing out that people dont always vote for the actual person as you stated. Even if I did dislike them all I couldnt run for public office for a variety of reasons.
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I didn't mean you specifically, i just meant in general. If you can't find a candidate that serves yur interests then you gotta suck it up, cause more than likely it is someone that the rest of yur community does like. That's democracy.

Can't please all of the all of the people all of the time. (someone famous said that i think. lol)
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that fat lawyer is telling how Corrupt America is.
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that fat lawyer is telling how Corrupt America is.
of course he is, cause America is the big bad wolf. Even though most of the leaks make every other country look way more corrupt and insideous, it's still all about America.

That's Julian's whole schtick, is trying to make it about America. Cause if these were leaks from any other country, no one would give a flying flip.

If these were 250,000 documents from the New Zealand government, no one would give a toss.

He knows he has to make it about America, to get anyone to pay attention, cause that's all he really cares about, having people pay attention to him.

He's a flippin superstar don't you know? He's the new christ.... in his own mind.

What a complete sociopath.
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A Warrent for the Arrest of him has now arrived in UK,
this is over the Euro Sex Case.

Will his Fat Lawyer give him up?


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Can't please all of the people all of the time. (someone famous said that i think. lol)
Yeah me. In the post above the one I have quoted.

Some claim it was Abe Lincoln, you may have heard of him, he is reported to have said "you can fool all/most of the people some of the time...." etc.

The please all the people line was in one of John Lydgates works. Though some sources claim its originally from PT Barnum the circus owner of Barnum and Bailey fame. Its also in one of Mark Twains(Samuel Longhorn Clemens) books as well I believe.
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