[Locke.]

Neil Lennon, Sepp Blatter, Polanski

[CharlieO]

i dont hate any of them because i do not know them, though i dont agree or condone their actions it doesnt make me hate them.

[Merry Mockmas]

Justin Bieber.

[Daniel McIver]

I dont hate any of them because i dont them. Accept for gordon brown who is okay and chris moyles who is awesome.

[In the Drunk Tank]

I dont see why you have to know someone personally to hate them, you can hate them for their actions.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I dont see why you have to know someone personally to hate them, you can hate them for their actions.

I don't think you can truly hate anyone if you have never met them personally and had enough time to form opinions.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't think you can truly hate anyone if you have never met them personally and had enough time to form opinions.

In cases like Sepp Blatter that's fair enough, I voted for him but I dont really hate him, I just dont like what he's done to football. But with people like Mugabe and Gadaffi I think it's reasonable to hate them, they're responsible for hundreds/thousands of deaths and are dictators, I'm pretty sure we wouldnt get along well

[Maia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

In cases like Sepp Blatter that's fair enough, I voted for him but I dont really hate him, I just dont like what he's done to football. But with people like Mugabe and Gadaffi I think it's reasonable to hate them, they're responsible for hundreds/thousands of deaths and are dictators, I'm pretty sure we wouldnt get along well

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Mollie.

[Shaun]

why is Morrissey there?

I voted Moyles. Overall I'd probably say Will.I.Am.

[karezza]

Originally Posted by Shaun

why is Morrissey there?

I voted Moyles. Overall I'd probably say Will.I.Am.

Morrissey is a creepy pervert.

[CharlieO]

I dont see why you have to know someone personally to hate them, you can hate them for their actions.

'you' as a collective doesn't have to know someone to hate them just my idea of the word hate is on a different scale than some others.

[Shaun]

poppycock. I loathe Will.I.am. I have not met him. Next.

[Stu]

I really hate these petty arguments that wish to rob us of our ability to hate. Hate is natural. Every bit as natural as love. It's so natural that the people giving these 'you can't hate someone you have never met' arguments always do hate people they have never met. Constantly. Everyone does.

I'm pretty sure I hate Hitler and I'm not waiting for him to come back from the dead so I can quiz him on his fucking table ethics in the hope that it might prove to challenge my views.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Stu

I really hate these petty arguments that wish to rob us of our ability to hate. Hate is natural. Every bit as natural as love. It's so natural that the people giving these 'you can't hate someone you have never met' arguments always do hate people they have never met. Constantly. Everyone does.

I'm pretty sure I hate Hitler and I'm not waiting for him to come back from the dead so I can quiz him on his fucking table ethics in the hope that it might prove to challenge my views.

I don't see any petty arguments, I see people having their own opinions just like you did.

[Stu]

Bit early in the evening for spot the contradiction, isin't it?

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Stu

I really hate these petty arguments that wish to rob us of our ability to hate. Hate is natural. Every bit as natural as love. It's so natural that the people giving these 'you can't hate someone you have never met' arguments always do hate people they have never met. Constantly. Everyone does.

I'm pretty sure I hate Hitler and I'm not waiting for him to come back from the dead so I can quiz him on his fucking table ethics in the hope that it might prove to challenge my views.

how do you know love is natural? nothing is ever for sure. who says that love is the same for everyone? love is an idea we grow up with and our mind chooses to interpret it in its own way because no one can point and say thats love like they can with any inanimate object.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

how do you know love is natural? nothing is ever for sure. who says that love is the same for everyone? love is an idea we grow up with and our mind chooses to interpret it in its own way because no one can point and say thats love like they can with any inanimate object.

How do I know love is natural? Because it the natural emotionalization of the natural need to protect and reproduce that we as a species naturally do.

'Nothing is ever for sure' reeks of Baudelairean pseudo philosophy. Rhetorical, impractical and fucking useless. Some things we can say with certainty. Love is natural. Not everyone loves but most do and they don't need to be conditioned to do it. It's been passed down through our natural genetics for millions of those natural earth years.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Stu

How do I know love is natural? Because it the natural emotionalization of the natural need to protect and reproduce that we as a species naturally do.

'Nothing is ever for sure' reeks of Baudelairean pseudo philosophy. Rhetorical, impractical and fucking useless. Some things we can say with certainty. Love is natural. Not everyone loves but most do and they don't need to be conditioned to do it. It's been passed down through our natural genetics for millions of those natural earth years.

Personally don't agree anything is provable. However i'm not in the mood for a debate tonight so ill agree to disagree with you.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

Personally don't agree anything is provable. However i'm not in the mood for a debate tonight so ill agree to disagree with you.

I know your not debating but I do feel the need to express how absoloutely ludicrous I find that view. It's a great thing to rattle off to sound like a deep and mystical teen or something when your discussing Inception with your mates but in reality it holds no water. We must adhere to reality as we percieve no matter how accurate that perception may be it in order for things like uh ... civilization ... to occur.

We love. The ability to do so has been formed and naturally passed down over the course of evolution. Thus love is natural to us. You can say ~evolution is a dream in god's mind and we aren't really here or some crazy shit like that but then you can use those kind of arguments for anything. It's just such a cop out.

[Shaun]

Noone said petty, Josy.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Noone said petty, Josy.

Pretty sure Stu did, Shaun.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Josy

Pretty sure Stu did, Shaun.

I did, because it's my opinion. Replying to it by helpfully pointing out that everyone is entitled to their opinion and then not bothering to defend yours isin't exactly constructive.

I don't mean to sound nasty it just annoys me whenever I make points that people completely ignore because gosh darn it it's just easier to just talk about how my points don't actually matter because everyone is entitled to their opinionz.

I'll throw in a smiley at this point to make the post seem less imposing :

[Shaun]

-has forgotten how to read-

[midlandman]

this poll is sexist