[Grimnir]

humans>>>animals>>>sub human animals

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Six hunters were sent in by the emergency services to kill the mother bear and her three cubs.

(why?)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1VIlJNFW5

what a horrific story!

[Shaun]

I'd have to say so.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

[CharlieO]

Unfortunately I'd have to say yes because I eat animals.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

I think I think of humans as more important because I am one..

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

I know you want to provoke discussion but sometimes you just sound plain stupid. .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

I know you want to provoke discussion but sometimes you just sound plain stupid. .

Only to those who cant be bothered to contribute but happily play "look at me"

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Only to those who cant be bothered to contribute but happily play "look at me"

I already contributed my answer. Not everyone who thinks you are pushing it a bit is trying to get attention. I suppose playing Christian apologetics for a year or two and then switching to rampant nihlism has nothing to do with playing 'look at me'?

We create the meaning in our lives. We empathise with humans more than any other animal and rightly so. I could sit here all day providing biological/evolutionary/neurological reasons why that is the case. I could discuss it in poetic or scientific terms.

Valuing human life more than the lives of other species is not the massive leap of faith or arrogant stance of assumption you're making it out to be.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As no life has any importance or meaning there is no difference only that which we place on it.

Its a religious hangover that we think humans are more important.

I think it's more to do with reason, intellect, emotion, the opposable thumb and being at the top of the food chain than religion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

I already contributed my answer. Not everyone who thinks you are pushing it a bit is trying to get attention. I suppose playing Christian apologetics for a year or two and then switching to rampant nihlism has nothing to do with playing 'look at me'?

We create the meaning in our lives. We empathise with humans more than any other animal and rightly so. I could sit here all day providing biological/evolutionary/neurological reasons why that is the case. I could discuss it in poetic or scientific terms.

Valuing human life more than the lives of other species is not the massive leap of faith or arrogant stance of assumption you're making it out to be.

Thankyou Stuart

You may now clear up your things, put away your utensils and head off to prayers with the other boys.

Oh and Stuart, dont think i dont see the earring.

[Captain.Remy]

Of course yes.

Whoever says the contrary has social issues.

Animals are good. In my stomach. This is how life goes baby. We eat them. No pity.

[Doogle]

My friends and family and myself, and people I sort of know, yes.

But I'd rather a stranger or someone I dislike die than an animal. Unless it was like an ant.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think it's more to do with reason, intellect, emotion, the opposable thumb and being at the top of the food chain than religion.

But we all know that we are not more important but that we make it so in our own minds.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

But we all know that we are not more important but that we make it so in our own minds.

I suppose it's to do with what you consider 'important' to mean. All animals have their place and their function in the scheme of things. Maybe not the wasp, which is the skinhead of the insect world.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Nope, I'd save my dog over anyone i dont like.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

Nope, I'd save my dog over anyone i dont like.

Big Society

[MeMyselfAndI]

What??

[joeysteele]

A really excellent question Leather Trumpet,wow, it's a tricky one,I think I would say saving a Human over an Animal should be more important but I can't, I couldn't say that I would save a HUman over any Animal.

It would really depend on the circumstances,our family dog for instance, I doubt I would save anyone other than my family over him.

Brilliant question LT, you have me for one, stumped on this one for a definitive answer.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

A really excellent question Leather Trumpet,wow, it's a tricky one,I think I would say saving a Human over an Animal should be more important but I can't, I couldn't say that I would save a HUman over any Animal.

It would really depend on the circumstances,our family dog for instance, I doubt I would save anyone other than my family over him.

Brilliant question LT, you have me for one, stumped on this one for a definitive answer.

It would depend on the circumstances, as I've said before if it was a child murderer or a family pet, I would choose animal over human........but if it was a split second decision.......and I didn't now they were a child murderer......my instinct tells me I would choose human, I think most people would....letting humans die over animals is just well bad karma

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

It would depend on the circumstances, as I've said before if it was a child murderer or a family pet, I would choose animal over human........but if it was a split second decision.......and I didn't now they were a child murderer......my instinct tells me I would choose human, I think most people would....letting humans die over animals is just well bad karma

I would agree with what you say in the main.

May I add, when I read your post I thought, that's like something rhino would say,then I looked at the name and saw you were rhino.

Confused me a bit.mind you that's easy to do.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I would agree with what you say in the main.

May I add, when I read your post I thought, that's like something rhino would say,then I looked at the name and saw you were rhino.

Confused me a bit.mind you that's easy to do.

[Harry!]

I would save my pets over a random human being. But if it was someone I know verses a random aninal it would depend if I liked that person or not.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Waaw!! This really shows, the state of humanity for real. At least this demographic, reading this thread. Shocking!
I have had pets, cats mainly throughout my life, but no way in hell, will I save any of them, over my worst enemy, of a human being. I still know the difference between the brain, self awareness, of an animal, and that of a human being!

I am actually quite shocked reading some of the answers, because I honestly didnt think, people were like that, in general. But then again, maybe its just this country, or just the Tibb demographic. Live and learn!

You wouldn't save your pet over your worst enemy. Obviously you don't love your pets. The point you are mising is that love or hate decides what we do or don't do. A genuine pet lover loves their anaimal as if part of the family. A stranger is not loved therefore its perfectly understandable to save a beloved pet as opposed to a complete stranger. But then it depends on who the stranger is.......A young women with children hard to let die. A male sorry I would save my pet......


To let a beloved pet die to save a worst enemy sounds completely abnormal......

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by bananarama

You wouldn't save your pet over your worst enemy. Obviously you don't love your pets. The point you are mising is that love or hate decides what we do or don't do. A genuine pet lover loves their anaimal as if part of the family. A stranger is not loved therefore its perfectly understandable to save a beloved pet as opposed to a complete stranger. But then it depends on who the stranger is.......A young women with children hard to let die. A male sorry I would save my pet......


To let a beloved pet die to save a worst enemy sounds completely abnormal......

I think having the death of another human being on your conscience would be harder to deal with than an animal... and I mean any human even your worst enemy.