[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes its a Error on there part.


He Singed a SyCo contract.

So that the Legal point.

Looks like the show has played this guy: rather than him playing on their show......

Such publicity for him is possibly going to have a very serious impact on his next few years - could destroy the guy for all we know (mentally, emotionally etc).

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah I think he should get the money, he's served his time for his offence and they obviously had no problem with him appearing despite his criminal record so it's only fair that he now gets to keep his winnings

Also, if they didn't give him the money they're basically saying that it's ok for him to assault a man but not a woman. I mean, I know it's probably worse that it was a woman as he could do more damage but you're either making a stand against violence or you're not.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also, if they didn't give him the money they're basically saying that it's ok for him to assault a man but not a woman. I mean, I know it's probably worse that it was a woman as he could do more damage but you're either making a stand against violence or you're not.

yep spot on.

I wonder what the ever growing amount of MEN who suffer daily from domestic abuse etc would have to say about that.

They haven't really thought all this 'publicity' thing through very well: geezo!!

[GiRTh]

I dont see how they can deny him the money. He went thru the selection process just like everyone else. If the producers decided to ignore his criminal past or not dig deep enough to find it then they have to abide by that.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also, if they didn't give him the money they're basically saying that it's ok for him to assault a man but not a woman. I mean, I know it's probably worse that it was a woman as he could do more damage but you're either making a stand against violence or you're not.

Yeah that's a good point as well, you can't really say it's fine for him to compete if he assaults a man but not a woman, assault is assault and it's not really any good to try and make out that the gender of the victim makes it a lot more acceptable/unacceptable

[arista]

Wright Stuff
said he could give Ł100,000 of his cash to a charity that deals
with woman attacked by men.



Double PR for SyCo and him.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Wright Stuff
said he could give Ł100,000 of his cash to a charity that deals
with woman attacked by men.



Double PR for SyCo and him.

Oh God, that actually makes it sound even more like a publicity stunt

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh God, that actually makes it sound even more like a publicity stunt

Yes Mega Clever
if that happens.

[Livia]

There was a case of a rapist winning cash on a game show, his victim sued him and was awarded a part of his prize. She couldn’t claim compensation at the time because he had no money. If he's allowed to keep the Ł1m, I reckon his victim will be taking legal advice.

[Vicky.]

That story makes it sound like its fine to beat up a man, but not a woman

[Jords]

I dont see how they have the power to do that?

Hes done his time, and seems like the guy is moving on from his dark past.

[Marc]

Surely that shouldn't stop him winning, he did his time.

[Ramsay]

He served time
Give him the money

[Doogle]

If I were him I'd be most pissed off.

[Tom]

He's had his punishment for his crime and he won it fair and square. It just sounds like ITV don't want to pay up. If ITV dont want to give prize money to such people then they shouldn't let them on the show

Wouldn't surprise me if he was planted to generate headlines, you know what Simon Cowell is like

[Zippy]

they should be more thorough with their checks beforehand if its such a concern. To start taking back prize money AFTER the facts just looks very dodgy and suspicious to me. And mean.

and I don't see how hitting a woman is so much worse than hitting a man. I didnt know the law held women up as being less hittable. Nobody should be hit, period.

[Zippy]

well he seems to be getting to keep it now.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/ex-prisoner...202023749.html

[Shaun]

It's quite shocking the lengths Cowell will go to to gain notoriety and media coverage.

And to think that idiot crowd cheered this guy on and booed Angel morons.

[InOne]

Guess this proves there's no Karma

[Pyramid*]

the show's execs admit they cocked up.

Seriously: how do these people get these jobs - surely this would be a basic consideration. Wonder what they actually pay their lawyers for - clearly it wasn't just the execs at that screwed up.

Unless...of course, it was all a ploy in the first instance. though: having your name and photos splashed all over the papers/tabloids showing you are a violent thug - I can't see how that could enhance the winner's life or be of any beneift to him now or in the long run - Ł1m in his hip pocket or not.

ITV bosses decided Nathan Hageman could not be denied his winnings because producers had let him on the show without proper background checks.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1XG3xlu6s

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Guess this proves there's no Karma

hahahaha

[lostalex]

2 1/2 years for beating the crap out of a woman? I wouln't consider that doing his time.

If he lied about his crime to the proudcers he shouldn't get a penny. If he thinks it's okay to lie to them, then why should they give him the money?

If he was honest with them from the beginning though, he should get the money.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

That story makes it sound like its fine to beat up a man, but not a woman

Well beating up a man is not the same as beating up a woman. In the same way that beating up a healthy person is not the same as beating up a disabled person or an elderly person.

All abuse is not equal. Some people are less able to defend themselves.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

2 1/2 years for beating the crap out of a woman? I wouln't consider that doing his time.

If he lied about his crime to the proudcers he shouldn't get a penny. If he thinks it's okay to lie to them, then why should they give him the money?

He didnt pick his punishment you do realise, that was the sentence given to him. He served his sentence therefore has repaid the debt to society and been duly punished for his crime. I dont in any way condone crimes of violence, however I do believe in rehabilitation.

How do we know he did actually lie to producers about his criminal record? Legally all he needed to reveal was the fact he had a conviction for assault and whether that conviction was spent or not under the Rehabiliatation of Offenders Act

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Shasown

How do we know he did actually lie to producers about his criminal record? Legally all he needed to reveal was the fact he had a conviction for assault and whether that conviction was spent or not under the Rehabiliatation of Offenders Act

I agree, if he was honest with them, then he has every right to the money.