[Ammi]

I've been an Aaron fan from the beginning because of the complexity of his personality..he is flawed imo and has done a few things I've not liked particularly...but that doesn't make him 'nasty ' or 'manipulative' or comparing him to a wife abuser.....streuth...he may have helped a few situations along to his advantage...I think they all have...they all have interesting personality traits which they have 'played up' for the show..that doesn't make them 'false' people...... it's is a game...if Aaron is the 'gameplayer' as people say, well that's fine with me..but it doesn't mean that everything he does is part of that game..we've still got to see Aaron the person as well as Aaron the gameplayer and overall...I can't find anything to complain about.
I do agree with the OP..I haven't really complained much about his 'bias'...I see more and more Aaron fans everyday...without the bias he may have just got a place in the final, nothing more.....with the bias....he will win....

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ButterflyGirl

They hate Aaron because he isn't like thier golden boy and girl Alex and Jay, look who got the top prizes.

That was decided randomly. By the housemates, nowt to do with BB

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

and to use the same word again: BB have consistently been targetting Aaron with bad edits, manipulated to make him worse than he is - and conversely, the have consistently given Jay very good edits and hidden some of the most vile things - even to the point that housemates haven't even been allowed to discuss some of it - or rather - if they have, it's not been shown.

I disagree, Jay hasn't been getting good edits for weeks, they haven't tried to hide anything since the freezer incident

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I think the connection you are failing to make is one that is of CONSISTENCY.

One or two random acts, outwith normal behaviour, doesn't justify her not being labelled boring. She is boring, and she is consistently boring.

Even some of the housemates were/ are /have been saying the same thing.

Originally Posted by MrWong

The only 2 to have live feed (Anton & Jay) called her boring too and Alex was the most boring according to them.

Precisely. She is consistently boring. But re Alex: Jay and Anton only saw 2 days of live feed - and that could very well have been manipulated as well, to give the pair of them a false perception of how Alex is being regarded outside the house: which given that she's in the lead to win - appears to back this up.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I disagree, Jay hasn't been getting good edits for weeks, they haven't tried to hide anything since the freezer incident

Not true.

There are clips online of housemates accusing Jay of being aggressive over the food and sulking in his bed for two days. Not shown on the highlights.

[lucyann]

Originally Posted by Objectivegirl

****ting in the freezer???

Exactly.... Why was this hushed up? Why isn't he told not to wee in the pool, would any of us want to swim in the same water? there is a toilet right by the pool for goodness sake.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I disagree, Jay hasn't been getting good edits for weeks, they haven't tried to hide anything since the freezer incident

Really?

Allhis love ins with Loobrush.

All the focus on his pathetic 5 year old attempts at 'love letters' and love messages?

Him making out that he thinks Aaron's a top bloke, considers him a mate now?

Him not banging on about not enough food anymore.

It's only been the last few days that we've seen Jay being the guy most of us loathe him for being - days, not weeks.

[Objectivegirl]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Just because they don't show every disguting thing he does doesn't mean they don't show any of it

C5 even have their daily rag going on about it http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/...isgusting-Jay/

Yeah but none of his disgusting behaviour had been shown on the main programme until Rebeckah exposed it on BBBOTS (having fully expected it to have been shown in footage). That's when the BB team decided to run with it. The man is a neanderthal

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Not true.

There are clips online of housemates accusing Jay of being aggressive over the food and sulking in his bed for two days. Not shown on the highlights.

We saw him punching a pillow twice over the food situation, and we've seen him do plenty of sulking and moaning over food, there was even pretty much a whole episode just showing him sulking that night where they all put the tape over their mouths to stop themselves talking, they made him look like a bit of a nutter

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Precisely. She is consistently boring. But re Alex: Jay and Anton only saw 2 days of live feed - and that could very well have been manipulated as well, to give the pair of them a false perception of how Alex is being regarded outside the house: which given that she's in the lead to win - appears to back this up.

Yes, Jay and Antons LF was manipulated.

I know this because they were watching someone, and then the camera turned to Aaron and Faye kissing and they made a big deal out of not wanting to watch THAT (whilst antons eyes were out on stalks )

They obviously didnt get to pick what they saw, and from the little bit of footage WE saw, it seemed the camera was on Aaron and Faye much more often than the others.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

You think showing her throwing a ketchup bottle at Aaron's head would mean she's not boring?

I feel you are deliberately misunderstanding me. :/

I don't think it would be a good act, but it would definitely show some spark or interesting side to her personality. It would get her talked about, it would create drama.

Fan of other HMs would criticise her, others would rise to defend her... Instead?

Nothing.

See where I am coming from?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Really?

Allhis love ins with Loobrush.

All the focus on his pathetic 5 year old attempts at 'love letters' and love messages?

Him making out that he thinks Aaron's a top bloke, considers him a mate now?

Him not banging on about not enough food anymore.

It's only been the last few days that we've seen Jay being the guy most of us loathe him for being - days, not weeks.

I refer you to the thread I made 2 or 3 weeks ago now: http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/s...826&highlight=

- His "contest" with Mark
- Shaving his ass
- Punching the pillow
- Pissing on Mark in the shower
- Saying he wanted to kick Harry's head in
- Talking derogatorily about women
- Getting ketchup over Harry’s clothes and denying it
- Stamping on banana’s
- His general anger about food

All stuff they showed that reflected negatively on Jay and since then we can add several more things as well

Originally Posted by Objectivegirl

Yeah but none of his disgusting behaviour had been shown on the main programme until Rebeckah exposed it on BBBOTS (having fully expected it to have been shown in footage). That's when the BB team decided to run with it. The man is a neanderthal

Rebeckah didn't expose anything, she just said she'd nominate him over the "fisting thing" and that was back in week 2 anyway, so you're saying they've not covered anything up since then?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I disagree, Jay hasn't been getting good edits for weeks, they haven't tried to hide anything since the freezer incident

Jay has become incredibly dull since his Wolfpack heyday, just as a side observation.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Jay has become incredibly dull since his Wolfpack heyday, just as a side observation.

Each to their own

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Each to their own

I am hurt that you don't care

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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I do agree with the OP..I haven't really complained much about his 'bias'...I see more and more Aaron fans everyday...without the bias he may have just got a place in the final, nothing more.....with the bias....he will win....

Yep, with the perceived 'bias' he definitely has a great chance.

Without it... Freddy.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I feel you are deliberately misunderstanding me. :/

I don't think it would be a good act, but it would definitely show some spark or interesting side to her personality. It would get her talked about, it would create drama.

Fan of other HMs would criticise her, others would rise to defend her... Instead?

Nothing.

See where I am coming from?

Nope. Alex has barely been shown and she could win it.

We see a few minutes of her playing pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake with Tom on the highlights.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I refer you to the thread I made 2 or 3 weeks ago now: http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/s...826&highlight=

- His "contest" with Mark
- Shaving his ass
- Punching the pillow
- Pissing on Mark in the shower
- Saying he wanted to kick Harry's head in
- Talking derogatorily about women
- Getting ketchup over Harry’s clothes and denying it
- Stamping on banana’s
- His general anger about food

All stuff they showed that reflected negatively on Jay and since then we can add several more things as well



Rebeckah didn't expose anything, she just said she'd nominate him over the "fisting thing" and that was back in week 2 anyway, so you're saying they've not covered anything up since then?

I'd rather deal with the vile things that have been covered up...... the freezer palava, the fisting thing, pissing in the pool, him being very aggressive and far more than it appears we have been shown.

the things you have mentioned above: in the vast majority, HAD to be shown - not because they involved JAY but because they were designed to show up other housemates.

- Shaving his ass BB thought this was amusing
- Punching the pillow this was designed to show how well he handled his aggression - and to show how ANGRY other housemates made him
- Pissing on Mark in the shower This was a byproduct of showing a convo by 2 other housemates in the forefront.
- Saying he wanted to kick Harry's head in Again, to put Harry in a bad light because Harry bought the bananas
- Talking derogatorily about women
- Getting ketchup over Harry’s clothes and denying it Designed to wind up Aaron and Harry and then Anton - Jay had to be shown.
- Stamping on banana’s
- His general anger about food Which he blamed on OTHER housemates - so it was a way of making out the others housemates were at fault for causing his anger

See...... it's all very subjective.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Jay has become incredibly dull since his Wolfpack heyday, just as a side observation.

*Falls flat on floor, grabs smelling salts*

That's twice today I've agreed with you.

I hope someone is taking notes here!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Nope.

What a shocker

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

*Falls flat on floor, grabs smelling salts*

That's twice today I've agreed with you.

I hope someone is taking notes here!

You'll come around to the idea that I'm usually right soon Pyr

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by ButterflyGirl

They hate Aaron because he isn't like thier golden boy and girl Alex and Jay, look who got the top prizes.

That was nothing to do with BB....(although the whole twist was cr*p imo)....the problem with saying things like that are bias, when they obviously aren't is that when something really is...it's 'oh..here we go again........'
I personally thing BB has shown bias to other H.M's too..they haven't got such a negative response from BBOTS and OKTV though.....but I do think it's helped him gather more fans......surely a good thing in the end

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

What a shocker

I guess it would be shocking, having your theory blown to bits.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I'd rather deal with the vile things that have been covered up...... the freezer palava, the fisting thing, pissing in the pool, him being very aggressive and far more than it appears we have been shown.

the things you have mentioned above: in the vast majority, HAD to be shown - not because they involved JAY but because they were designed to show up other housemates.

- Shaving his ass BB thought this was amusing
- Punching the pillow this was designed to show how well he handled his aggression - and to show how ANGRY other housemates made him
- Pissing on Mark in the shower This was a byproduct of showing a convo by 2 other housemates in the forefront.
- Saying he wanted to kick Harry's head in Again, to put Harry in a bad light because Harry bought the bananas
- Talking derogatorily about women
- Getting ketchup over Harry’s clothes and denying it Designed to wind up Aaron and Harry and then Anton - Jay had to be shown.
- Stamping on banana’s
- His general anger about food Which he blamed on OTHER housemates - so it was a way of making out the others housemates were at fault for causing his anger

See...... it's all very subjective.

Well with the freezer incident there'd be pretty clear implications that they would like to avoid; there would have been been a lot of controversy if it had been aired, it's a production nightmare, I'd imagine they just considered the best thing to do would be to sort the situation out and draw a line under it. And we still don't even know what this "fisting" thing is, probably just a disgusting story. They did show him pissing in a pool?

Anyway the point is that plenty has been shown for Jay to be considered quite disgusting just on the HL's alone, there has also been footage showing him angry, showing him in a strop, showing him falling out with other house mates etc. etc. The Desmond owned paper have even carried a story with the headline "Fury at disgusting Jay", they further often show his crude moments on BOTS and he's often criticised on there, Emma even said she'd be "scared" of him. I'm surprised there is still people arguing the "he's the chosen one" line tbh

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I guess it would be shocking, having your theory blown to bits.

And here I was thinking you didn't know how to be funny