[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by BBfan6418

Good comeback? Aaron fans have been using it since week 1.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Objectivegirl

****ting in the freezer???

Just because they don't show every disguting thing he does doesn't mean they don't show any of it

C5 even have their daily rag going on about it http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/...isgusting-Jay/

[Objectivegirl]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Just because they don't show every disguting thing he does doesn't mean they don't show any of it

C5 even have their daily rag going on about it http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/...isgusting-Jay/

Yeah but none of his disgusting behaviour had been shown on the main programme until Rebeckah exposed it on BBBOTS (having fully expected it to have been shown in footage). That's when the BB team decided to run with it. The man is a neanderthal

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Really?

Allhis love ins with Loobrush.

All the focus on his pathetic 5 year old attempts at 'love letters' and love messages?

Him making out that he thinks Aaron's a top bloke, considers him a mate now?

Him not banging on about not enough food anymore.

It's only been the last few days that we've seen Jay being the guy most of us loathe him for being - days, not weeks.

I refer you to the thread I made 2 or 3 weeks ago now: http://thisisbigbrother.com/forums/s...826&highlight=

- His "contest" with Mark
- Shaving his ass
- Punching the pillow
- Pissing on Mark in the shower
- Saying he wanted to kick Harry's head in
- Talking derogatorily about women
- Getting ketchup over Harry’s clothes and denying it
- Stamping on banana’s
- His general anger about food

All stuff they showed that reflected negatively on Jay and since then we can add several more things as well

Originally Posted by Objectivegirl

Yeah but none of his disgusting behaviour had been shown on the main programme until Rebeckah exposed it on BBBOTS (having fully expected it to have been shown in footage). That's when the BB team decided to run with it. The man is a neanderthal

Rebeckah didn't expose anything, she just said she'd nominate him over the "fisting thing" and that was back in week 2 anyway, so you're saying they've not covered anything up since then?

[lucyann]

Originally Posted by Objectivegirl

****ting in the freezer???

Exactly.... Why was this hushed up? Why isn't he told not to wee in the pool, would any of us want to swim in the same water? there is a toilet right by the pool for goodness sake.

[Vicky.]

Negative footage is fair enough. but its the way they have gone out of their way to twist things into always being Aaron in the wrong.

The stranded task is the prime example of this. They left the task room because of 2 things, one being Anton had AGREED(not shown on the HLs) to let Aaron out as he needed painkillers//then went back on his word just to spite Aaron/Faye, and the second being jem was going to walk out anyway because BB had upset her by revealing her real age(also not shown). After this, we had the conversation in the kitchen between Aaron and Jay...where Aaron said(on the FB clip) 'I just couldnt stay in there anymore because of my leg'...which on the HLs, became 'I just couldnt stay in there anymore'. Purposely cutting him off mid sentence. There is no reason at all to go to such lengths with the editing just to screw the whole story totally.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Negative footage is fair enough. but its the way they have gone out of their way to twist things into always being Aaron in the wrong.

The stranded task is the prime example of this. They left the task room because of 2 things, one being Anton had AGREED(not shown on the HLs) to let Aaron out as he needed painkillers//then went back on his word just to spite Aaron/Faye, and the second being jem was going to walk out anyway because BB had upset her by revealing her real age(also not shown). After this, we had the conversation in the kitchen between Aaron and Jay...where Aaron said(on the FB clip) 'I just couldnt stay in there anymore because of my leg'...which on the HLs, became 'I just couldnt stay in there anymore'. Purposely cutting him off mid sentence. There is no reason at all to go to such lengths with the editing just to screw the whole story totally.

and to use the same word again: BB have consistently been targetting Aaron with bad edits, manipulated to make him worse than he is - and conversely, the have consistently given Jay very good edits and hidden some of the most vile things - even to the point that housemates haven't even been allowed to discuss some of it - or rather - if they have, it's not been shown.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

and to use the same word again: BB have consistently been targetting Aaron with bad edits, manipulated to make him worse than he is - and conversely, the have consistently given Jay very good edits and hidden some of the most vile things - even to the point that housemates haven't even been allowed to discuss some of it - or rather - if they have, it's not been shown.

I disagree, Jay hasn't been getting good edits for weeks, they haven't tried to hide anything since the freezer incident

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I disagree, Jay hasn't been getting good edits for weeks, they haven't tried to hide anything since the freezer incident

Not true.

There are clips online of housemates accusing Jay of being aggressive over the food and sulking in his bed for two days. Not shown on the highlights.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Not true.

There are clips online of housemates accusing Jay of being aggressive over the food and sulking in his bed for two days. Not shown on the highlights.

We saw him punching a pillow twice over the food situation, and we've seen him do plenty of sulking and moaning over food, there was even pretty much a whole episode just showing him sulking that night where they all put the tape over their mouths to stop themselves talking, they made him look like a bit of a nutter

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I disagree, Jay hasn't been getting good edits for weeks, they haven't tried to hide anything since the freezer incident

Really?

Allhis love ins with Loobrush.

All the focus on his pathetic 5 year old attempts at 'love letters' and love messages?

Him making out that he thinks Aaron's a top bloke, considers him a mate now?

Him not banging on about not enough food anymore.

It's only been the last few days that we've seen Jay being the guy most of us loathe him for being - days, not weeks.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I disagree, Jay hasn't been getting good edits for weeks, they haven't tried to hide anything since the freezer incident

Jay has become incredibly dull since his Wolfpack heyday, just as a side observation.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Jay has become incredibly dull since his Wolfpack heyday, just as a side observation.

Each to their own

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Jay has become incredibly dull since his Wolfpack heyday, just as a side observation.

*Falls flat on floor, grabs smelling salts*

That's twice today I've agreed with you.

I hope someone is taking notes here!

[ButterflyGirl]

They hate Aaron because he isn't like thier golden boy and girl Alex and Jay, look who got the top prizes.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by ButterflyGirl

They hate Aaron because he isn't like thier golden boy and girl Alex and Jay, look who got the top prizes.

That was decided randomly. By the housemates, nowt to do with BB

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by ButterflyGirl

They hate Aaron because he isn't like thier golden boy and girl Alex and Jay, look who got the top prizes.

That was nothing to do with BB....(although the whole twist was cr*p imo)....the problem with saying things like that are bias, when they obviously aren't is that when something really is...it's 'oh..here we go again........'
I personally thing BB has shown bias to other H.M's too..they haven't got such a negative response from BBOTS and OKTV though.....but I do think it's helped him gather more fans......surely a good thing in the end

[Vicky.]

I think theres a massive difference between showing negative footage that actually happened. And showing other footage that happened that is twisted by the editing into being negative for a certain housemate.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think theres a massive difference between showing negative footage that actually happened. And showing other footage that happened that is twisted by the editing into being negative for a certain housemate.

Well I wasn't comparing Jay to Aaron, and besides that's happened too:

In the nominations a couple of weeks ago Jay went on for ages about not wanting to nominate because he couldn't think of anybody or any reasons, and asked to nom himself, BB edited that all out and just made him look ridiculously petty with his nominations for Tom and Jem about the food

And there's also the recent sauna conversations, they're edited to make Jay just look pretty stupid, it is funny but it's also inaccurate (edit - as parmnion's also mentioned above ^)

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well I wasn't comparing Jay to Aaron, and besides that's happened too:

In the nominations a couple of weeks ago Jay went on for ages about not wanting to nominate because he couldn't think of anybody or any reasons, and asked to nom himself, BB edited that all out and just made him look ridiculously petty with his nominations for Tom and Jem about the food

And there's also the recent sauna conversations, they're edited to make Jay just look pretty stupid, it is funny but it's also inaccurate (edit - as parmnion's also mentioned above ^)

Oh come on now. Jay is pretty stupid.

To pretend he isn't, is nothing more than sheer denial.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well I wasn't comparing Jay to Aaron, and besides that's happened too:

In the nominations a couple of weeks ago Jay went on for ages about not wanting to nominate because he couldn't think of anybody or any reasons, and asked to nom himself, BB edited that all out and just made him look ridiculously petty with his nominations for Tom and Jem about the food

And there's also the recent sauna conversations, they're edited to make Jay just look pretty stupid, it is funny but it's also inaccurate (edit - as parmnion's also mentioned above ^)

I didnt mean you, I meant in general

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

The freezer incident was nothing to do with a production nightmare. It had all the reasons for the plug to be pulled on the entire show.

That's how much protection Jay was given - and still remained in the house.

Despite him threatning Harry - he was still kept in the house.

Despite him throwing Aarons luggage with clothes in it, into the pool - he was kept in,.

Despite him being aggressive often (which various hmates have discussed) he was kept in the house.

Despite him pissing on other housemates, he was kept in the house.

You see the pattern here.......

Well that's exactly why it was a nightmare for them, and I don't really want to enter into a different argument now about whether he should still be in there or not

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Oh come on now. Jay is pretty stupid.

To pretend he isn't, is nothing more than sheer denial.

I'm not saying he's not stupid, but it's a fact that those sauna conversations are edited to make it look like they have nothing to talk about with Jay just saying something stupid

Like I said, it's hilarious but innaccurate

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I didnt mean you, I meant in general

Oh right, fair enough

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well that's exactly why it was a nightmare for them, and I don't really want to enter into a different argument now about whether he should still be in there or not



I'm not saying he's not stupid, but it's a fact that those sauna conversations are edited to make it look like they have nothing to talk about with Jay just saying something stupid

Like I said, it's hilarious but innaccurate

Who's arguing. It's an incredibly reasonable topic for debate given all his behaviour that I listed earlier on.

The sauna incident did nothing: Jay has proven time and time again how thick he is, how stupid he is. BB and their edits don't have to do much to prove that - Jay's done that all on his own.

Jay HAS nothing to discuss with Aaron on an intellectual level: Jay as much as agreed when he said he was going to have 'deep intelligent discussions' with Aaron - and the best he could start off with was, "that Stephen Hawkins bloke thingy"....

He's out of his league, he knows it and so too do we all, BB showed him as he is -stupid.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Has it not occured to you that if BB didn't include Aaron's negative behaviour in the main show, or talk about it on BOTS, and focused on his positive side that he would have received maybe 10% of the camera time he has and wouldn't be the HM you apparently love.

No it hasn't... Thing is about 75% of all the most interesting things which have happened this year (unless they deliberately left out more interesting events in the edit - which I doubt!) have either revolved around or included Aaron in some form. If they had decided not to show him, they wouldnt have had much footage to show, specially in those early weeks, it would just have been hours of footage of Aden rapping and crying while Anton and Jay sat around being total chauvanists.

Plus Freddie was a total nob, a funny nob who was difficult to hate, but a buffoon none the less. He is nothing like Aaron, not remotely. If anything the most similar person to Aaron from past BBs was Alex Sibley imo, except Aarons much more complex.

Originally Posted by MrWong

The only 2 to have live feed (Anton & Jay) called her boring too and Alex was the most boring according to them.

This has been quickly forgotten this whole crypt task by Aaron haters and Jay fans alike. During those days Jay & Anton insulted pretty much every HM including his beloved 'princess' calling her one of the most 'boring' HMs he looked pretty scathing when he said it as well. He insulted all of them, said how he was gonna raise hell with Anton when they went back in (that plan went well) Aaron by comparison barely put a foot wrong in that, they had to resort to using a convo that Jem had to use against him cause he didnt give them any ammo to shoot him down with - very unlike the usual edit which would have us believe hes some machiavellian mastermind manipulating the whole house

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think theres a massive difference between showing negative footage that actually happened. And showing other footage that happened that is twisted by the editing into being negative for a certain housemate.

Indeed, I think they are all victims of editing for sure, but Aaron has been BB this year and C5 have essentially decided to use him as live bait for the public, they've done everything they can to demonise him. The most recent example being the fall out from the face to face noms. When they edited out Louise admitting she was not going to vote with the group either and made her out to be a selfless martyr and him a total ****ard.

[thesheriff443]

the confusion caused on this forum is many are watching bb in aaron vision!