[Livia]

Originally Posted by Ammi

There's only one thing I want pushing down my throat M------ M-----
...I've given you a head start

Ooo... you just broke my dream.

[Niamh.]

I agree although tbf I do think Jermaine jackson would have won CBB if it hadn't been for Bullygate with Shilpa Shetty

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree although tbf I do think Jermaine jackson would have won CBB if it hadn't been for Bullygate with Shilpa Shetty

I don't think he would have. Jermaine was showing a lot of Compassion to Shilpa that last week especially and I think that is what edged him into runner up place.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree although tbf I do think Jermaine jackson would have won CBB if it hadn't been for Bullygate with Shilpa Shetty

I don't agree, i think Jermaine would have been a total bore if it weren't for the Shilpa controversy, Remember he's the first one that started saying it was racism. Shilpa herself never mentioned racism until Jermaine started whispering in her ear saying "notice what color your skin is, and what color their skin is". Jermaine really stirred that racism stuff. But apart from that he did NOTHING in that house. I just rewatched that season of CBB recently and i noticed that. Can you name any memorable scene from that season of CBB that didn't involve him telling Shilpa how racist everyone is? He really had nothing else to him.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I don't agree, i think Jermaine would have been a total bore if it weren't for the Shilpa controversy, Remember he's the first one that started saying it was racism. Shilpa herself never mentioned racism until Jermaine started whispering in her ear saying "notice what color your skin is, and what color their skin is". Jermaine really stirred that racism stuff. But apart from that he did NOTHING in that house. I just rewatched that season of CBB recently and i noticed that.

hhhmmm, I don't remember that but I haven't watched it since it was actually on so I'll take your word for it. I just remember thinking he was popular

[the truth]

dirk benedict was absolutely fantastic....but he too was bullied by jade and the horrible mates of hers...yet this was ignored...at one stage they even mocked him because cancer had made him impotent whilst he was having chemotherapy....SICK...yet we brits ignored all that and instead jumped on the shilpa racism bandwagon .....a pathetic argument about coffee beans....ps at the ende of that humiliating nonsense H from steps opens the other cupboard and shows the a bag of spare coffee beans....that was lost on everyone including prime minister gordon brown who thought it was a major incident? we go over the top about soe things and ignore others...we seemm to have lost all sense of perspective or maybe our media has and we allow them to manipulate us

dirk benedict was fantastic...I believe the reason he nor any american has ever won is because we brits especially those on tv always take cheap shots at the americans and there is an under current of anti americanism.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

dirk benedict was absolutely fantastic....but he too was bullied by jade and the horrible mates of hers...... etc. etc...

Most Brits are not sheep. American culture is part of every day life and has been for decades... their films, their food, their TV, their music... Every day more Americanisms are being adopted and accepted into our language. I don't watch BB USA but I'm guessing if there was a solitary Brit in there somewhere they would stand little chance of actually winning. That doesn't mean Americans are necessarily anti-British.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most Brits are not sheep. American culture is part of every day life and has been for decades... their films, their food, their TV, their music... Every day more Americanisms are being adopted and accepted into our language. I don't watch BB USA but I'm guessing if there was a solitary Brit in there somewhere they would stand little chance of actually winning. That doesn't mean Americans are necessarily anti-British.

I think the english are anti aerican and take endless cheap shots at them and never get picked up on it...also english people generally cannot take an american take the mickey out of them as we saw when the great jerry seinfeld mocked the royal wedding and the monarchy...the english generally simply dont see this, thankfully I lived outside england for a few years and got a different perspective

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by the truth

I think the english are anti aerican and take endless cheap shots at them and never get picked up on it...also english people generally cannot take an american take the mickey out of them as we saw when the great jerry seinfeld mocked the royal wedding and the monarchy...the english generally simply dont see this, thankfully I lived outside england for a few years and got a different perspective

..yes, certainly different. I don't think Ricky Gervais was asked to host an American award show because he is British but because he's funny. Michael's fans like him because he's Michael, not because he's American. Let's not make this something which it isn't

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

I think the english are anti aerican and take endless cheap shots at them and never get picked up on it...also english people generally cannot take an american take the mickey out of them as we saw when the great jerry seinfeld mocked the royal wedding and the monarchy...the english generally simply dont see this, thankfully I lived outside england for a few years and got a different perspective

I've lived and worked in several countries, including the USA. Perhaps the USA isn't one of the countries you've lived in, I don't know... I have American friends that still take the micky out of me via Skype and email, and good-naturedly take some stick back. Most people can take it without calling it racism, wherever they're from.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've lived and worked in several countries, including the USA. Perhaps the USA isn't one of the countries you've lived in, I don't know... I have American friends that still take the micky out of me via Skype and email, and good-naturedly take some stick back. Most people can take it without calling it racism, wherever they're from.

I agree with this to a degree. i think 1 on 1 the brits can take it. But when on home soil, the Brits definitely lose their sense of humour. imho.

[MeMyselfAndI]

For the first two shows I thought he was so overated and dull, But he's not. The last 4 episodes I've found him really funny and interesting.

[the truth]

also note the americans paid gervais to come over and mock them....would the english do the same by inviting chris rock to replace stephen fry and rip the pis* out of all the luvviees? NOPE

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by the truth

also note the americans paid gervais to come over and mock them....would the english do the same by inviting chris rock to replace stephen fry and rip the pis* out of all the luvviees? NOPE

When Bill Hicks was alive he'd come over here and take the mick out of the English loads. I specifically remember a bit he did about footy hooligans and a bit he did about John Major among other things and the audiences lapped it up. American comics whenever they come over here always have a go at our food and accents (usually generalised cliches as they think we all talk like the Queen or Dick Van Dyke) and we take it on the chin. I didn't see the Jerry Seinfeld piece you referred to but I'd probably have found it quite funny as would a lot of other brits who don't give a stuff about the monarchy.

You do seem to be quite anti-English in the same way you're accusing the English of being anti-American. I think you may just be reading too much into the results of some rather crappy reality tv shows. The Americans that have taken part in them have hardly been the most respected or talented Americans in the public eye, or they wouldn't have been on those crappy reality shows in the first place, so you can't expect them to win just because they're American.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Mumbles

When Bill Hicks was alive he'd come over here and take the mick out of the English loads. I specifically remember a bit he did about footy hooligans and a bit he did about John Major among other things and the audiences lapped it up. American comics whenever they come over here always have a go at our food and accents (usually generalised cliches as they think we all talk like the Queen or Dick Van Dyke) and we take it on the chin. I didn't see the Jerry Seinfeld piece you referred to but I'd probably have found it quite funny as would a lot of other brits who don't give a stuff about the monarchy.

You do seem to be quite anti-English in the same way you're accusing the English of being anti-American. I think you may just be reading too much into the results of some rather crappy reality tv shows. The Americans that have taken part in them have hardly been the most respected or talented Americans in the public eye, or they wouldn't have been on those crappy reality shows in the first place, so you can't expect them to win just because they're American.

Ive lived here most of my life and I see us as hypocritical in many ways....the monarchy is a prime example....its a farce and we should allow american comics to rip the pis* out of them imho

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

Ive lived here most of my life and I see us as hypocritical in many ways....the monarchy is a prime example....its a farce and we should allow american comics to rip the pis* out of them imho

So it's fine for Americans to do that to us, but xenophobic when we do it to them.

Having lived here and in the USA, I'd say, per head of capita, they've got just as many idiots as we've got. My experience is that people are pretty much the same wherever you live.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

So it's fine for Americans to do that to us, but xenophobic when we do it to them.

Having lived here and in the USA, I'd say, per head of capita, they've got just as many idiots as we've got. My experience is that people are pretty much the same wherever you live.

no . yet again youve misinterpeted me. deliberately. we take the mickey out of the americans and all things american everywhere, on tv, in the papers and on the street. even in one on one situations we mock america and pour scorn on all they believe in...we claim we have ironic humour and they havent...we claim theyre insular and stupid and ignorant, yet we still march to war with them every time? they treat us very well over there. certainly they roll out the red carpet for us brits in entertainment and sports. but we do not do the same. as i stated theyll have an englishman host their awards and mock all things american...we meanwhile would NEVER have a yank rip the pis* out of us and our monarchy at the baftas....oh no no we must have quinessential englishman stephen fry ....every single year....for me gervais crosses the line anyway...hes not clever enough to have a laugh without going out of his way to hurt people...his endless atheist rants on mainstream tv are unfunny and totally and utterly inapproipriate yet the americans still give him another go

.as for bill hicks he was a genius who analysed and mocked the absurdity of many things including corporations governments etc he poured scorn on corrupt hypocritical governments and in fairness we did take to bill hicks...BUT we cannot accept the americans mocking britishness or the monarchy...that makes us hypocrites.

[Mumbles]

Originally Posted by the truth

Ive lived here most of my life and I see us as hypocritical in many ways....the monarchy is a prime example....its a farce and we should allow american comics to rip the pis* out of them imho

Nobody's stopping Americans coming here and ripping the p out of anything they like. John Stewart on the Daily Show which is broadcast on more 4 regularly takes the piss out of the queen and there's never been any fuss made about it here. I think you're tackling a straw man here so I'm going to leave you to it.

[the truth]

I stand by every word Ive said 100%...we will seejust how xenophpobic the brits are or arent by the end of this series.....the bookies have natalie down as odds on fave to be the zillionth undeserved cockney winner of most reality tv show ever staged on these shores....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

I stand by every word Ive said 100%...we will seejust how xenophpobic the brits are or arent by the end of this series.....the bookies have natalie down as odds on fave to be the zillionth undeserved cockney winner of most reality tv show ever staged on these shores....

It's being cheerful that keeps you going, isn't it.

[Marc]

His nomination for Andrew :"because i think he's a ********** spy"

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marc

His nomination for Andrew :"because i think he's a ********** spy"

..LOL he deserves a golden globe for that nomination

[Bojangles]

I've now made my mind up,I want either Michael or Denise to win.Denise is brilliantly funny there's no side to her at all, and no bitching.
Michael has a dry wit which I like and he couldn't give a fig about the whole show,
He's just cruising man.

[thesheriff443]

if a gypsy can win any one can!

[Suze]

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12-01-2012 04:38 PM

Why is she so paranoid about whether he wants to talk to her or not? If he had a problem with her, he would have nominated the silly moo.