[dyfed]

Originally Posted by The Penguin

I'm not saying he had to come out, I can understand why in the world of rugby he might have felt pressured to stay in the closet but to go as far as marrying a woman is just wrong. You don't HAVE to marry a woman to prove you aren't gay. That's no excuse. He basically ruined someones life by faking a marriage. He could have simply not told people he is gay. Getting married isn't a necessary step to hide your sexuality. He is basically a selfish person. None of the other housemates apart from maybe Natasha had done anything that bad. People seem to
forget that.

This is such a sad message to read,there are many who have tried to go the conventional way and suppress their feelings,he isn't the first to do this and not the last,it is the society we live in that puts pressure on gays to be something that their not,compassion is a wonderful word,I have dear friends who are gays who will be celebrating 30 years together,longer then most marriage's last !!! it isn't a easy road .

Originally Posted by The Penguin

I'm not saying he had to come out, I can understand why in the world of rugby he might have felt pressured to stay in the closet but to go as far as marrying a woman is just wrong. You don't HAVE to marry a woman to prove you aren't gay. That's no excuse. He basically ruined someones life by faking a marriage. He could have simply not told people he is gay. Getting married isn't a necessary step to hide your sexuality. He is basically a selfish person. None of the other housemates apart from maybe Natasha had done anything that bad. People seem to forget that.

I think he did it solely and specifically to get to you.

[chuff me dizzy]

A lot of gay people get married ,mainly for their families ,I know 2 gay men who both got married and have sons, Gareth is a good person ,and him trying marriage is not a sin

[dyfed]

Feminist today do nothing to help women...

[pinkpanther]

Originally Posted by dyfed

Feminist today do nothing to help women...

nor men...these femininists so called...especially the radical ones...are simply self serving often with selfish agendas...if we want equal opportunity lets have it for all...including men ....the elderly and the disabled too

[Razor]

What a stupid thread.

[Tree-Of-Temptation]

Because he didn't want to be gay, he used to pray to be straight.

[Marc]

Wow... this thread is beyond.. wow..

Firstly, who said he was perfect?

Secondly, are you really that uneducated about the world that you would create such a retarded thread about something you don't understand. Try to understand the fact the guy had troubles with his sexuality and his life first before deciding to show your ignorance on here.

[Black Dagger]

I'm sorry, but coming out as gay is the hardest thing to do in the world, show some respect, he thought he could get married and fall in love with a woman and it turned out he couldn't, he wanted to lead a 'normal life' as a straight man.

[pinkpanther]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

I'm sorry, but coming out as gay is the hardest thing to do in the world, show some respect, he thought he could get married and fall in love with a woman and it turned out he couldn't, he wanted to lead a 'normal life' as a straight man.

no its not at all, stop being hysterical (no offence)
its not as hard as returning from war with your legs blown off or suffering an incurable disease or any major health problem or losing a loved one or going bankrupt etc

everyone in wales knew he was gay for years and years and no one gave a hoot....he just exploited it for commercial purposes and revealed how many times hed cheated on his wife with me and also revealed personal stuff about his wife in his book which imho was out of order. his wife I could cry for. anyway just like the giggs situation who also allegedly had more than 1 lover on the go, theyre both decent people who made mistakes and I just hope they can now rebuild their relationships, and carry on with their careers and settle down and be happy

[Livia]

Originally Posted by pinkpanther

no its not at all, stop being hysterical (no offence)................

Just for my own interest... can I ask how old you are, pinkpanther?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by pinkpanther

no its not at all, stop being hysterical (no offence)
its not as hard as returning from war with your legs blown off or suffering an incurable disease or any major health problem or losing a loved one or going bankrupt etc

everyone in wales knew he was gay for years and years and no one gave a hoot....he just exploited it for commercial purposes and revealed how many times hed cheated on his wife with me and also revealed personal stuff about his wife in his book which imho was out of order. his wife I could cry for. anyway just like the giggs situation who also allegedly had more than 1 lover on the go, theyre both decent people who made mistakes and I just hope they can now rebuild their relationships, and carry on with their careers and settle down and be happy

Actually coming out as gay can be as hard as any of those things. How many cases have there been where men and boys have killed themselves for not being able to accept being gay.

Oh and not as bad as going bankrupt? HAHAHA thats ridiculous! How can you compare hating the person you are and praying to god to cure you to money?

I can honestly say for me coming out as gay was the most traumatic thing i and ever will experience...Worse then finding out i had epilepsy,worse then the death of my Grand father and i absolutley 100% disagree with you.

I grew up in a small village in Wales and trust me its not easy to come out to your friends who all play rugby and talk non stop about pussy and there are still some people i havnt told and probably never will.

PS: Are you saying you slept with him?

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Actually coming out as gay can be as hard as any of those things. How many cases have there been where men and boys have killed themselves for not being able to accept being gay.

Oh and not as bad as going bankrupt? HAHAHA thats ridiculous! How can you compare hating the person you are and praying to god to cure you to money?

I can honestly say for me coming out as gay was the most traumatic thing i and ever will experience...Worse then finding out i had epilepsy,worse then the death of my Grand father and i absolutley 100% disagree with you.

I grew up in a small village in Wales and trust me its not easy to come out to your friends who all play rugby and talk non stop about pussy and there are still some people i havnt told and probably never will.

PS: Are you saying you slept with him?

I am welsh but have not lived in Wales for many years,I know the stigma that is given to gays when you live in a small community,I can't even begin to imagine what you personally went through,please know Daniel there are people in this world who will except you for who you are,and that includes this senior citizen.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by dyfed

I am welsh but have not lived in Wales for many years,I know the stigma that is given to gays when you live in a small community,I can't even begin to imagine what you personally went through,please know Daniel there are people in this world who will except you for who you are,and that includes this senior citizen.

Oh dyfed... I have been a critic of yours on this forum, but that is a really nice post. And Daniel, dyfed is not alone in his thinking.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by dyfed

I am welsh but have not lived in Wales for many years,I know the stigma that is given to gays when you live in a small community,I can't even begin to imagine what you personally went through,please know Daniel there are people in this world who will except you for who you are,and that includes this senior citizen.

I think i just fell in love with you

[Jezzy]

Originally Posted by pinkpanther

everyone in wales knew he was gay for years and years and no one gave a hoot....he just exploited it for commercial purposes and revealed how many times hed cheated on his wife with me

Cheated on his wife with YOU? Really?

[Toxic]

Originally Posted by The Penguin

I'm not saying he had to come out, I can understand why in the world of rugby he might have felt pressured to stay in the closet but to go as far as marrying a woman is just wrong. You don't HAVE to marry a woman to prove you aren't gay. That's no excuse. He basically ruined someones life by faking a marriage. He could have simply not told people he is gay. Getting married isn't a necessary step to hide your sexuality. He is basically a selfish person. None of the other housemates apart from maybe Natasha had done anything that bad. People seem to forget that.

What a low level of dignity you have sunk to just to turn people agaisnt a favourite.

The issue you have brought up to try and make him look back is a very sensitive and complicated issue, which he has explained in many interviews in the past. Even his ex wife thinks the world of him still and holds no grudges, you have no idea about that particular situation and for you to bring that up as a smear campaign is awful.

[pinkpanther]

I dont however agree with the poster who says he faked a marriage thats ott although the fact he was allegedly cheating for years during the marriage was totally unfair on his long suffering wife. she deserves the sympathy and the rewards not him

[aj2463]

I agree with, well everyone in a different way. Coming out would be hard being married and being a rugby player and all, and some of you are saying he wanted to get married and fall in love with a woman and try to be straight, but for 8 years? Its a long time to drag someone through a lie like that. And i know his wife and him are friends now and whatever but put yourself in her position for a minute. Did he really cheat on her though? I've never heard that

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by aj2463

I agree with, well everyone in a different way. Coming out would be hard being married and being a rugby player and all, and some of you are saying he wanted to get married and fall in love with a woman and try to be straight, but for 8 years? Its a long time to drag someone through a lie like that. And i know his wife and him are friends now and whatever but put yourself in her position for a minute. Did he really cheat on her though? I've never heard that

I guess we should all try and walk a mile in his shoes........If she has no grudge,why should we.
Eight years....I have known gays who have refused to come out their whole life for fear of repercussions to them and their family,..remember this is not a big city he lived in where you maybe more excepted.

[Lostie!]

So, the OP is a spurned lover of Gareth's. Explains it all.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by JellyFantastic

So, the OP is a spurned lover of Gareth's. Explains it all.

He hasnt answered our question though lol so apparently he has slept with Gareth.

Hes active on the forum at the moment so is clearly avoiding this thread now