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absolutely sh%tting myself for an obama win....its mega tight...main worry is over healthcare for the 50 million uninsured people...also worried over american neo-con empirialism resulting in endless wars....stem cell research is vital, cleaner energy is vital, regulating the corrupt corporate and banks is beyond vital...not really interested in gay issues as I think gay people now have all the rights and should quit moaning....the other issues are matters of life and death...
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Going to be glued to my laptop, love election nights both sides of the Atlantic. Praying for an Obama win... seems likely, Huffington Post have him down for 271 very likely electoral votes (need 270 to win) and with about 75 more up in the air. Romney's only on 191 secure.

Obviously that's just all predictions based on polls, though most polls are tipping in favour of Obama in the run up to the election:

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very excited for it. This will be my first time I can vote for president so that makes it even more important.
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I'm not voting this year, but if i did i'd vote for Roseanne and the Peace & Freedom party.

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Damnit, Alex, we've got a lot of important propositions to weigh in on here. If you're a registered voter, send out the love today, nevermind the presidency.
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Damnit, Alex, we've got a lot of important propositions to weigh in on here. If you're a registered voter, send out the love today, nevermind the presidency.
The only thing I care about on the California ballot is the proposition that deals with the death penalty. I do hope my fellow Californians choose to do away with the death penalty. That's the only thing i regret not voting on though.

California will obviously go for Obama, he doesn't need my vote. California will continue to be a blue state without my vote. If there was any chance at all that Romney could take California, then i'd be voting, but there is no chance.
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The only thing I care about on the California ballot is the proposition that deals with the death penalty. I do hope my fellow Californians choose to do away with the death penalty. That's the only thing i regret not voting on though.

California will obviously go for Obama, he doesn't need my vote. California will continue to be a blue state without my vote. If there was any chance at all that Romney could take California, then i'd be voting, but there is no chance.
Poppycock! Toss your votes in, Alex! If you can't for other reasons, then nevermind.
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The American presidential election is a complete and utter farce, one of the most modern countries in the world with an election process designed and developed over 200 years ago. It bears no relation to the modern world it does not even allow any American vote to actually count for either candidate directly. It basically means for each state the majority of the popular vote wins all the electoral college votes designated for that state..???

Wtf does that mean ?? Well different states were given more or less of these Electoral College votes depending on their perceived importance. It means the popular vote in States like California will always tip toward the Democrats and the popular vote in Texas will always swing towards the republicans. So the losing popular votes on these states count for nothing.

What a farce as the whole election boils down to winning the popular vote in just a few swing states..!!!

Get rid of this ridiculous outdated undemocratic system and replace it with a one person one vote = most votes wins system...!!!
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The American presidential election is a complete and utter farce, one of the most modern countries in the world with an election process designed and developed over 200 years ago. It bears no relation to the modern world it does not even allow any American vote to actually count for either candidate directly. It basically means for each state the majority of the popular vote wins all the electoral college votes designated for that state..???

Wtf does that mean ?? Well different states were given more or less of these Electoral College votes depending on their perceived importance. It means the popular vote in States like California will always tip toward the Democrats and the popular vote in Texas will always swing towards the republicans. So the losing popular votes on these states count for nothing.

What a farce as the whole election boils down to winning the popular vote in just a few swing states..!!!

Get rid of this ridiculous outdated undemocratic system and replace it with a one person one vote = most votes wins system...!!!

Well it's still more democratic than the UK. You don't even get to vote for your leader in any way shape or form. Gordon Brown was your PM for a year, remind me again when he was elected by anyone? No one in the UK has any say at all in your elections. The Parties get to decide. You can only vote for your local MP. Now let's talk about the House of Lords... they arn't elected by ANYONE and they serve for LIFE. so no one in the UK has any right to criticize our democratic process, thank you.
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Well it's still more democratic than the UK. You don't even get to vote for your leader in any way shape or form. Gordon Brown was your PM for a year, remind me again when he was elected by anyone?
Yes I agree with you our system is pretty crap too as we only get to vote for the party not the party leader.

Maybe we should all revert to the French system...!!!
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Well it's still more democratic than the UK. You don't even get to vote for your leader in any way shape or form. Gordon Brown was your PM for a year, remind me again when he was elected by anyone? No one in the UK has any say at all in your elections. The Parties get to decide. You can only vote for your local MP. Now let's talk about the House of Lords... they arn't elected by ANYONE and they serve for LIFE. so no one in the UK has any right to criticize our democratic process, thank you.
I see you're from California , good luck voting for Romney in that state..!!!
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I see you're from California , good luck voting for Romney in that state..!!!
you obviously are not paying attention. I said the only reason i would vote is if i thought that it MIGHT go for Romney, i'd vote AGAINST Romney. But there is no threat of Romney winning here, that's why i'm not voting.
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you obviously are not paying attention. I said the only reason i would vote is if i thought that it MIGHT go for Romney, i'd vote AGAINST Romney.
No no I was paying attention, I was merely pointing out to reinforce my earlier post that you as a voter in California , if you wanted to vote for Romney to win your vote would have little impact in that state as the majority popular vote will pretty much always be Democratic . Clearly you are an Obama supporter.

I also support Obama as I feel he inherited a huge mess 4 years ago and needs a bit more time to carry forward his plans. Also I think Obama understands the problems of the US and how to carry the US forward in today's world.

Romney..?? Well he just frightens the hell out of me...!!!!
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The American presidential election is a complete and utter farce, one of the most modern countries in the world with an election process designed and developed over 200 years ago. It bears no relation to the modern world it does not even allow any American vote to actually count for either candidate directly. It basically means for each state the majority of the popular vote wins all the electoral college votes designated for that state..???

Wtf does that mean ?? Well different states were given more or less of these Electoral College votes depending on their perceived importance. It means the popular vote in States like California will always tip toward the Democrats and the popular vote in Texas will always swing towards the republicans. So the losing popular votes on these states count for nothing.

What a farce as the whole election boils down to winning the popular vote in just a few swing states..!!!

Get rid of this ridiculous outdated undemocratic system and replace it with a one person one vote = most votes wins system...!!!
and...it'll never happen because the states with lesser populations will get the shaft. I'm serious you'd basically need California,Texas,NY, basically the top 5/10 in order to win. Not all the states would be represented.

Even if more fair for the Rs in Cali or the Ds in a deeply R State.

I'll be voting as well. Iowa, A swing state, There's a very important measure on the ballot on retaining a supreme court judge that allowed Gay Marriage in my state. Now that more people are aware of it in my state. He's staying
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What a farce as the whole election boils down to winning the popular vote in just a few swing states..!!!

Get rid of this ridiculous outdated undemocratic system and replace it with a one person one vote = most votes wins system...!!!
ours is even worse. proportional representation has just been slung out of parliament again
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I remember back in 2004 when i said the same thing about Kerry...lol

I said to myself "how the ******* can anyone vote for Bush? OBVIOUSLY Kerry is gonna win".....oops.
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Yes he is a handsome man and has a lovely family also he is very rich so yes I think he is lovely and will vote for him ...!!!!

How old are you btw 8 or 9 yrs ....!!!!
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Yes he is a handsome man and has a lovely family also he is very rich so yes I think he is lovely and will vote for him ...!!!!

How old are you btw 8 or 9 yrs ....!!!!
I think Mollie's just winding up, I hope so anyway lol.

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