[Livia]

Speidi's private comments need to be played back into the house. It's only fair...

[MeMyselfAndI]

They did play some of their DR comments on the screen announcing the task. Like calling them emotional vampires etc

[Amy Jade]

He was obviously trying to belittle them and their marriage, he wasn't joking or trying to lighten the mood.

He wanted to be part of the action.

[Kizzy]

Seems to me that ryan was just astounded that even though speidi have totally disrespected everyone else from day one.

Contributed almost nothing or ruined every task set, they are still treated and worse still expect to be treated like royalty?

I have to say though i'm sure he is annoyed, I think he was hoping to form an alliance with them against the British housemates. During the kissing task he was the most vocal in their defence.

[arista]

[Maia]

Originally Posted by Josy

I think it was funny, Speidi are quick enough to be nasty to everyone else and can't take it back.

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I find Spencer and Heidi really irritating. They are quick enough to have a go at others, but as soon as anyone says anything about themselves, they go on the attack.

These

[Maia]

Arista

[Slevin]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

He's out of order everytime he opens his mouth.

lol

[Jack_]

Didn't seem like a joke to me, he said it with a smug grin on his face like he was trying to poke another dig in at them.

Having said that if he was trying to stir things then bring it on, he's done **** all else the rest of the series.

[MargeryFan]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I find Spencer and Heidi really irritating. They are quick enough to have a go at others, but as soon as anyone says anything about themselves, they go on the attack.

Lets be serious here. When they went down to the basement they very much liked all their housemates. The only stuff they have said against them has been in retaliation to what's been said about them since they left. Why should they brush off Ryan's comments when they were clearly made to provoke a reaction out of them?

If you were in their situation would you laugh it off? I don't think you would

[Ellen]

They pretty much liked all their housemates?
No they did not. Sam & Lacey were the one's they were warming towards but other than that it was all show.

[MargeryFan]

Originally Posted by Ellen

They pretty much liked all their housemates?
No they did not. Sam & Lacey were the one's they were warming towards but other than that it was all show.

I think they have handled themselves with aplomb since being nominated by every single housemate and since having to watch each and every one of them slag them off at every opportunity.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by MargeryFan

Lets be serious here. When they went down to the basement they very much liked all their housemates. The only stuff they have said against them has been in retaliation to what's been said about them since they left. Why should they brush off Ryan's comments when they were clearly made to provoke a reaction out of them?

If you were in their situation would you laugh it off? I don't think you would

Of course. My mistake. They have been warm and welcoming towards everybody and bad mouthed noone.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by MargeryFan

I think they have handled themselves with aplomb since being nominated by every single housemate and since having to watch each and every one of them slag them off at every opportunity.

They were rude & bad mannered from the start which deservedly got them nominated.
There was a couple of comments which i thought was wrong, namely from Claire but the rest of the housemates slagged them off because of their rudeness & ignorant behavior.

[Scotty07]

Completely agree, anytime would've been poor to comment on it and painfully unfunny anytime too imo, but as you say extremely poor timing. Razor then having the nerve to accuse them of bullying Ryan.

At least some true colours were shown though, always been one of my favourite things about BB seeing a few masks slip, Great episode.

[MargeryFan]

@ Mrluvaluva & Ellen

I'm fully aware that they were fairly rude when they first came in. However they had made their apologies for this and since then had been getting on well with the housemates (particularly after the shopping task). The point here is that since then, they realized that the housemates were actually being false with them. The vast majority of comments made about them were quite personal.

Look how Rylan reacted after hearing one comment from them about him? Imagine how they must have felt after 2 days of watching people do that to them?

To bring this back on topic, my point here is that Ryan was out of order by trying to provoke the situation further (REGARDLESS of what has happened in the past) and Razor's reaction was disgraceful. Say what you want about Speidi but they have not bullied anyone or been aggressive towards them.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by MargeryFan

@ Mrluvaluva & Ellen

I'm fully aware that they were fairly rude when they first came in. However they had made their apologies for this and since then had been getting on well with the housemates (particularly after the shopping task). The point here is that since then, they realized that the housemates were actually being false with them. The vast majority of comments made about them were quite personal.

Look how Rylan reacted after hearing one comment from them about him? Imagine how they must have felt after 2 days of watching people do that to them?

To bring this back on topic, my point here is that Ryan was out of order by trying to provoke the situation further (REGARDLESS of what has happened in the past) and Razor's reaction was disgraceful. Say what you want about Speidi but they have not bullied anyone or been aggressive towards them.

I do not condone Razor's behaviour. Nor have I said Heidi and Spencer have been aggressive in any shape or form. I just found them particularly rude and obnoxious from the offset. It's all a bit tit for tat with them. We like you, but woe betide you if you say anything about us. It's all been orchestrated by the producers for effect ultimately, and they got what they wanted out of it.

[MargeryFan]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I do not condone Razor's behaviour. Nor have I said Heidi and Spencer have been aggressive in any shape or form. I just found them particularly rude and obnoxious from the offset. It's all a bit tit for tat with them. We like you, but woe betide you if you say anything about us. It's all been orchestrated by the producers for effect ultimately, and they got what they wanted out of it.

I hear you. I know they can be a bit hypocritical, but in that particular situation I thought they were in the right. At the end of they day they are human beings and I felt as though Ryan was trying to humiliate them. It was all very underhand. I'm not supporting Speidi's actions in any way up to this point but I'm trying to be as objective as possible.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MargeryFan

I hear you. I know they can be a bit hypocritical, but in that particular situation I thought they were in the right. At the end of they day they are human beings and I felt as though Ryan was trying to humiliate them. It was all very underhand. I'm not supporting Speidi's actions in any way up to this point but I'm trying to be as objective as possible.

It did, it seemed..........weird, when he said it I was thinking wtf? why is he asking them that??? It never occurred to me that he was trying to be funny either so I can see why Spencer got annoyed

[JAJ1942]

Originally Posted by RedAmber

I thought it was extremely disrespectful to make a joke at Speidi's expense at that moment. Whether they choose to show intimacy in front of the cameras or not isn't Ryan's business. It seems a married couple would be damned if they do and damned if they don't. I was really disappointed that Razor chose to defend Ryan and become so antagonistic towards Spencer. Calling Spencer a bully because he didn't find an insult funny and charging him like a bull in heat was digusting. Who was the REAL bully on tonight's show, throwing his weight around and laughing that Spencer **** himself?

I agree both Ryan and Razor were out of order. I just don't understand the support they are getting on here. Razor was definately the aggressor in this and Ryan had no right to push the kissing issue, none of his business.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I find Spencer and Heidi really irritating. They are quick enough to have a go at others, but as soon as anyone says anything about themselves, they go on the attack.

Oh FGS why do people keep saying this. They're not two faced at all. They only spoke about particular housemates in response their bitching. And not only that, they were spreading lies about Speidi too and getting personal like Claire. Plus it was more or less the whole house against thm bitching about them all day long. They only stood up for themselves like any person would and when that fat odious pie tried to launch himself at them they were understandably concerned for their safety.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Oh FGS why do people keep saying this.

Because it's a fact?

[Truth Teller]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I really liked him on launch night but there's something very off about him

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It did, it seemed..........weird, when he said it I was thinking wtf? why is he asking them that??? It never occurred to me that he was trying to be funny either so I can see why Spencer got annoyed

Yep - it was weird and unnecessary as Spencer had just explained why they haven't been smooching and all over each other in the house. It was in respect of their other housemates.

Ryan isn't being himself and is constantly trying to fit in with the house rather than be himself.

[JTM45]

I'm super disappointed with the Toadfish on the whole!
I expected him to be a much better person than it appears he actually is.

[KingBilly]

Ryan is a total dunce though, God bless him.