[Drew.]

Originally Posted by the truth

scholes is a legend dont get me wrong, but hes behind giggs overall....giggs has nearly 300 more games and more trophies, hes also created more goals.

your comparing whos greater out of these two by their stats, so i think its wayyy to early to try and compare or class Bale as the greatest.. By the time he's 30 we will probably be looking at one of the greatest if he gets a big move and continues to improve.

Scholes or Shearer for me..260 premier league goals

[MTVN]

Yeah was thinking Shearer for this generation

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Drew.

your comparing whos greater out of these two by their stats, so i think its wayyy to early to try and compare or class Bale as the greatest.. By the time he's 30 we will probably be looking at one of the greatest if he gets a big move and continues to improve.

Scholes or Shearer for me..260 premier league goals

again great players, but if you want to go just on goals then dixie dean, rush, and greaves are all ahead of shearer....as for scholes, I love him to bits, hes a genius, but imho its just not possible to put him ahead of giggs, whos played 100s more games, scored more goals, created more goals, won a lot more trophies too

[the truth]

rooney too is already one of the greats too

[Legend killer]

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Very smart Op no one named in this thread to date could lace his boots if he was English England would have won a major competition outside 66

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by the truth

again great players, but if you want to go just on goals then dixie dean, rush, and greaves are all ahead of shearer....as for scholes, I love him to bits, hes a genius, but imho its just not possible to put him ahead of giggs, whos played 100s more games, scored more goals, created more goals, won a lot more trophies too

i wasnt around when that list were playing so i had to go with Shearer. Its quite hard trying to choose who i prefer out of Scholes and Giggsy but your right stat wise Giggs comes out on top but from watching games and who catches the eye Scholes entertains me and impresses me more with things he does, thats probably why i prefer him

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

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Very smart Op no one named in this thread to date could lace his boots if he was English England would have won a major competition outside 66

great player but nowhere near the greatest, even keane himself would admit that

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Drew.

i wasnt around when that list were playing so i had to go with Shearer. Its quite hard trying to choose who i prefer out of Scholes and Giggsy but your right stat wise Giggs comes out on top but from watching games and who catches the eye Scholes entertains me and impresses me more with things he does, thats probably why i prefer him

fair enough youre entitled to your opinion

[Legend killer]

Originally Posted by the truth

great player but nowhere near the greatest, even keane himself would admit that

DESTROYED PRIME Zidane (GREATEST CM ever top 10 player all time) and PRIME Vieira (Top 10 greatest players ever to play in the prem)

Single handily saw off the greatest Arsenal team to ever be made

No better big game player in the modern era

Please tell me why he has no case to be the greatest??? Would you view be different if he had a more exotic name like Roydinio and played for a top footballing nation

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

DESTROYED PRIME Zidane (GREATEST CM ever top 10 player all time) and PRIME Vieira (Top 10 greatest players ever to play in the prem)

Single handily saw off the greatest Arsenal team to ever be made

No better big game player in the modern era

Please tell me why he has no case to be the greatest??? Would you view be different if he had a more exotic name like Roydinio and played for a top footballing nation

well he only scored 75 goals in his whole career for starters , a very low figure for any allegedly world class midfielder, he lacked pace, he had no dribbling ability, he was one footed too...keane was an enforcer , a very strong industrious player, although sometimes play thuggish as when he deliberately went out to break a players legs with one of the worst challenge in football history,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_st29mlQwU


he then showed off about it to try and sell his autobiography, it was one of 11 red cards for man utd, Giggs has had none in 926 matches.... that lost him my respect....as for beat arsenal on his own....did I miss beckhams great opening goal , schmeichel savings bergkamps penalty, and giggs greatest ever fa cup goal?scholes has won way more trophies, giggs has won twice as many trophies and nearly 400 more games and over 100 more goals......so great as he was, keane falls short of the very best

http://<br /> <br /> arsenal 99 ht...?v=quI_LkMj4HI

aggressive people like aggressive players but there has to be more than aggression to be an all time football great...

this is what giggs did in juventus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAe_KZl2mDE

[Legend killer]

Originally Posted by the truth

well he only scored 75 goals in his whole career for starters , a very low figure for any allegedly world class midfielder, he lacked pace, he had no dribbling ability, he was one footed too...keane was an enforcer , a very strong industrious player, although sometimes play thuggish as when he deliberately went out to break a players legs with one of the worst challenge in football history,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_st29mlQwU


he then showed off about it to try and sell his autobiography, it was one of 11 red cards for man utd, Giggs has had none in 926 matches.... that lost him my respect....as for beat arsenal on his own....did I miss beckhams great opening goal , schmeichel savings bergkamps penalty, and giggs greatest ever fa cup goal?scholes has won way more trophies, giggs has won twice as many trophies and nearly 400 more games and over 100 more goals......so great as he was, keane falls short of the very best

http://<br /> <br /> arsenal 99 ht...?v=quI_LkMj4HI

aggressive people like aggressive players but there has to be more than aggression to be an all time football great...

this is what giggs did in juventus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAe_KZl2mDE

well he only scored 75 goals in his whole career for starters

PMSL and the award for the most stupid comment I have ever seen goes to you nearly stopped reading after this bit alone. Emile Heskey has scored more goals then Nesta and Maldini COMBINED does he rank higher then both according to your deluded view???

he lacked pace, he had no dribbling ability, he was one footed too

Yet still DESTROYED Vieria and Zidane two of the greatest players to play the game INTERDASTING.GIF

break a players legs with one of the worst challenge in football history,

Alf had it coming son though he was the big man giving it large when Keane was on the floor Karma is a bastard

As for the rest of your post ISTHISREALLIFE.GIF you have the nerve to post what Giggs did against Juve when it is widely acknowledged Kean's performances in Turin is the greatest single performance by a player in the modern era

So to conclude Giggs is the better player because he had less red cards throughout his career LOOOOOOL!!!!!

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

well he only scored 75 goals in his whole career for starters

PMSL and the award for the most stupid comment I have ever seen goes to you nearly stopped reading after this bit alone. Emile Heskey has scored more goals then Nesta and Maldini COMBINED does he rank higher then both according to your deluded view???

this actually surprised me

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

well he only scored 75 goals in his whole career for starters

PMSL and the award for the most stupid comment I have ever seen goes to you nearly stopped reading after this bit alone. Emile Heskey has scored more goals then Nesta and Maldini COMBINED does he rank higher then both according to your deluded view???

he lacked pace, he had no dribbling ability, he was one footed too

Yet still DESTROYED Vieria and Zidane two of the greatest players to play the game INTERDASTING.GIF

break a players legs with one of the worst challenge in football history,

Alf had it coming son though he was the big man giving it large when Keane was on the floor Karma is a bastard

As for the rest of your post ISTHISREALLIFE.GIF you have the nerve to post what Giggs did against Juve when it is widely acknowledged Kean's performances in Turin is the greatest single performance by a player in the modern era

So to conclude Giggs is the better player because he had less red cards throughout his career LOOOOOOL!!!!!

youre getting desperate now, heskey was a striker, maldini a defender...but keane was a midfielder and he didnt score many goals considering he was in central midfield for man utd...scholes has scored twice as many giggs 2 and a half times as many

giggs is better for zillion of reasons

- over twice as many goals
-over 4 times as many goal asists
- twice as many matches
-more ground covered during matches
-over twice as many trophies
- 11 fewer red cards
- quicker
-more skillful
-better close control
-vastly better dribling abilities
-better freekicks
-better corners
- better crosser
-broke fewer legs

etc etc

I really could go on, but I really dont need to bother,its getting embarrassingly one sided.

giggs is way better than keane, and the vast majority agree , as giggs was voted the greatest man utd player ever by man utd fans
giggs is by far the most successful british footballer who has ever lived

926 games (all time british record)
estimated near 400 goal assists (all time british record),
164 goals (all time british record for a left winger),
approx 33 trophies (all time british and european record and counting)
...keane was a good but limited midfielder by comparism

also if u think keanes tackle of haland was a good one they that says all we need to know about you too.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Drew.

this actually surprised me

why? maldini is a defender, heskey is a striker and keane is a midfielder?

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by the truth

why? maldini is a defender, heskey is a striker and keane is a midfielder?

it was partly sarcasm Heskey isnt the most reliable of strikers nowadays

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Drew.

it was partly sarcasm Heskey isnt the most reliable of strikers nowadays

heskey was a long way from great even in his prime, to be honest

[MTVN]

He's banging them in for Newcastle Jets mind

[JamesBond007]

Bale, another player overrated by the British press. Yes he's a very very good player but thread titles like this make a lot of people dislike the guy. Scholes for me is the man ( this coming from a Arsenal supporter) as is Roy Keane and Giggs but Greatest Brit of all time has to go to George Best, the closet British football has come to a Messi.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by JamesBond007

but Greatest Brit of all time has to go to George Best, the closet British football has come to a Messi.

Very astute choice Mr Bond

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JamesBond007

Bale, another player overrated by the British press. Yes he's a very very good player but thread titles like this make a lot of people dislike the guy. Scholes for me is the man ( this coming from a Arsenal supporter) as is Roy Keane and Giggs but Greatest Brit of all time has to go to George Best, the closet British football has come to a Messi.

if threads this this make people dislike a guy, then the haters need to get their heads read, pathetic. bale is a class act off the field 100% humble decent bloke, absolutely nothing to dislike and hes a very clean player too.

what Im really asking is regardless of looking at a players entire career, on his day is bale the best most complete british footballer weve seen? after george best that is, he was incomparable imho. obviously bale would need to keep his improvements going for many years to come. but the performances hes put in lately have been some of the best individual displays Ive ever seen.
he seems to be able to do everything.

as for keane scholes and giggs. I dont think keane is in the same class as those 2. great holdng midfielder, but too limited to be in that company imho

[Alf]

Originally Posted by the truth

what Im really asking is regardless of looking at a players entire career, on his day is bale the best most complete british footballer weve seen?

Did you never see Paul Gascoinge play? now he was a football genius, such an insult to even compare Bale with him.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Did you never see Paul Gascoinge play? now he was a football genius, such an insult to even compare Bale with him.

please dont pretend to be insulted....Gazza was fantastic if you read my other threads youd read me describe him as a genius. he was a brilliant central midfielder who could do almost everything. sadly it did tail off a bit later on , but he was fantastic and by far the most talented english player ive seen in my lifetime.

[Legend killer]

Originally Posted by the truth

youre getting desperate now, heskey was a striker, maldini a defender...but keane was a midfielder and he didnt score many goals considering he was in central midfield for man utd...scholes has scored twice as many giggs 2 and a half times as many

giggs is better for zillion of reasons

- over twice as many goals
-over 4 times as many goal asists
- twice as many matches
-more ground covered during matches
-over twice as many trophies
- 11 fewer red cards
- quicker
-more skillful
-better close control
-vastly better dribling abilities
-better freekicks
-better corners
- better crosser
-broke fewer legs

etc etc

I really could go on, but I really dont need to bother,its getting embarrassingly one sided.

giggs is way better than keane, and the vast majority agree , as giggs was voted the greatest man utd player ever by man utd fans
giggs is by far the most successful british footballer who has ever lived

926 games (all time british record)
estimated near 400 goal assists (all time british record),
164 goals (all time british record for a left winger),
approx 33 trophies (all time british and european record and counting)
...keane was a good but limited midfielder by comparism

also if u think keanes tackle of haland was a good one they that says all we need to know about you too.

Not even going to debate this anyone who thinks Giggs or Scholes had a bigger impact on matches (not talking technical ability) needs to give up on football and follow another sport altogether

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXoOrPM1Jeg

THE GREATEST CAPTAIN IN PREMIER LEAGUE HISTORY

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

Not even going to debate this anyone who thinks Giggs or Scholes had a bigger impact on matches (not talking technical ability) needs to give up on football and follow another sport altogether

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXoOrPM1Jeg

THE GREATEST CAPTAIN IN PREMIER LEAGUE HISTORY

Youve lost the debate very badly so you have nothing much else to say.
giggs and scholes beat keane all ends up....skill, talent, speed of thought and body, dribbling ability, passing, crossing, free kicks, goal scoring, games played, trophies won, dicipline, temperament, longevity etc etc
you also condone it when a man deliberately goes onto the pitch to premeditatively break an opponents legs. you think thats great, thats says all we need to know about you

[Legend killer]

So let me ask you again prime for prime Giggs and Scholes had bigger impact on matches then Keane??