[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I did sorta think that too but yeah she is right that she doesn't wear that low cut tops all that often, a lot of the time she's got a hoodie on, and like she said last night considering Michael shredded all her clothes on first night she's probably not had a great deal of choice in what she wears lol

Originally Posted by Ben

I think Sallie was trying to defend why hers are out by saying that Hazels are on show more and that hazel has all her clothes. Sallie pointed out that she doesn;t have much choice as her clothes were shredded.

all true, but in fairness she was wearing those very same shorts on her entrance to the house, she clearly doesn't have a problem being on show in them, whether she has her suitcase or not. But yeah, she does have a point too.

I'm not really sure who the real Michael is, the 'real' Michael seems as much an act as the 'puppet' Michael

[Kizzy]

Nah, the barrage of abuse hurled at micheal was an eye opener..
Calling him a *******? and saying she's going to make his life a living hell?
Far far too angry and aggressive, her and hazel have formed a little clique and are trying to dominate the house.

[Patricia4]

Calling him a ******* was out of order I want her to go.

[sampvt]

She has a game plan to carve out an Alpha female roll in the house by whatever means she sees fit, the problem is she cant do it all that well and she has reverted to foul means to get to her goal. If she would only just stop talking over people and think before she opens her mouth, she might fit the bill a bit better as she does have qualities that make her interesting. She is acting like a trollop at the moment and her dress sense is certainly contrived for Bb and not what she is actually like in real life.

[YodaBB]

Originally Posted by sampvt

She has a game plan to carve out an Alpha female roll in the house by whatever means she sees fit, the problem is she cant do it all that well and she has reverted to foul means to get to her goal. If she would only just stop talking over people and think before she opens her mouth, she might fit the bill a bit better as she does have qualities that make her interesting. She is acting like a trollop at the moment and her dress sense is certainly contrived for Bb and not what she is actually like in real life.

Shes not been wearing much of her clothes as she doesn't have her suitcase, It's not really fair to judge her clothing sense when the clothes are not even hers

[GiRTh]

Sallie was trying to defend herself with the Hazel comment. I think its clear she likes Hazel and the comment wasn't meant to be malicious. I think Sallie just doenst know how to defend herself in a confrontation hence her felling that she 'keeps it real' when in truth she completely loses it. I like the fact she acknowledged she was not taking the nominations very well. Finally a bit of self awareness.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Sallie was trying to defend herself with the Hazel comment. I think its clear she likes Hazel and the comment wasn't meant to be malicious. I think Sallie just doenst know how to defend herself in a confrontation hence her felling that she 'keeps it real' when in truth she completely loses it. I like the fact she acknowledged she was not taking the nominations very well. Finally a bit of self awareness.

I agree to an extent but even if the Hazel comment wasn't meant to be malicious, I doubt Hazel would see it that way. She'd likely be quite upset by it, especially as Sallie is probably the closest to her in the house so far. It was a bit self centred at least if not malicious. And yeah, clearly lacking in self-awareness.

[Kizzy]

The hazel comment is interesting in that sallie may be right, hazels boobs might be on show more?...
However it's the personas of the two girls that differ, hazel is just more self assured and comfortable in her own skin and sallie wields her 'assets' and her femininity like a weapon.
Her sexual aggression is what some find uncomfortable, proclaiming you're a tomboy whilst overtly displaying your breasts is somehow a bit primal.
She is challenging the women and the men of the house.

[Tom4784]

She's just too dominant and annoying.

[thesheriff443]

sallie is an old dog with a big mouth.

[Livia]

She was nominated with the reason that she always fights to be the centre of attention. She dealt with that by... making a scene and becoming the centre of attention. Dreadful woman...

[Bluerang1]

You defend Sallie but bring Gina down?

[Jack_]

Marcus: 'For the past 24 hours viewers have been tweeting their opinions of the housemates, and earlier Big Brother briefed Michael with their thoughts which he is about to deliver to the house'

Then at 17:05 Michael says 'put your ass and your sideboobs away'

SERIOUSLY?! If you actually listened you'd see that the video proves what I said originally. Deary me

[Pink Pegasus]

In the episode itself at about 16 mins in the following is said:

"For the past 24 hours viewers have been tweeting their opinions of the housemates and earlier Big Brother briefed Michael with their thoughts, which he is about to deliver to the house"

(Michael then goes on to make the comments including the sideboob one)

so yeah I think the sideboob was something he was told to say by viewers. Did she not even get nicknamed "Sideboob Sallie" somewhere on opening night? It might have been on this forum, not sure. I think her sideboob has been mentioned on BOTS before but I'm not 100% on that.

Michael probably enjoyed making the comments as he genuinely doesn't seem to like her (even as his real self).

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

In the episode itself at about 16 mins in the following is said:

"For the past 24 hours viewers have been tweeting their opinions of the housemates and earlier Big Brother briefed Michael with their thoughts, which he is about to deliver to the house"

(Michael then goes on to make the comments including the sideboob one)

so yeah I think the sideboob was something he was told to say by viewers. Did she not even get nicknamed "Sideboob Sallie" somewhere on opening night? It might have been on this forum, not sure. I think her sideboob has been mentioned on BOTS before but I'm not 100% on that.

Michael probably enjoyed making the comments as he genuinely doesn't seem to like her (even as his real self).

I agree that's what I'm seeing too, the reason I'm being a stickler here is that there was a clip shown last night, where BB was actually telling Michael exactly what to say and there was no mention of Side Boob..they told him to say Sallie was always centre of attention. Surely someone else saw that clip..

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I agree that's what I'm seeing too, the reason I'm being a stickler here is that there was a clip shown last night, where BB was actually telling Michael exactly what to say and there was no mention of Side Boob..they told him to say Sallie was always centre of attention. Surely someone else saw that clip..

YES because that was when viewers were asked to send in nomination reasons

The clip I have just provided was when Michael was shown in the diary room discussing who he MIGHT nominate using comments the viewers had also been asked to send in giving their opinions of them

They are two separate instances but on both occasions the viewers comments were used

The sideboob comment was a viewer comment, as was the centre of attention. The former was a general opinion viewers were asked to tweet in, the latter was a nomination reason they were asked to suggest

[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I agree that's what I'm seeing too, the reason I'm being a stickler here is that there was a clip shown last night, where BB was actually telling Michael exactly what to say and there was no mention of Side Boob..they told him to say Sallie was always centre of attention. Surely someone else saw that clip..

I saw the bit you are talking about but I think they are two separate things. The first is where Michael gets asked by Big Brother "who you have in mind" for nominations tomorrow because he is the only one nominating. It just gave Big Brother a chance for Michael to say the viewers comments and at at the same time cause tension in the house by showing the other housemates him bitching.

Yesterday he was just told the exact reasons to give for his nominations and to say Sallie was attention seeking, whereas previously he had just been asked "who do you have in mind for nominations" and secretly told to relay comments that the public had tweeted.

That's my take on it anyways, could be wrong though!

[fruit_cake]

There still is no direct evidence that BB told him to say it...no matter how patronising you get that's the FACT of the matter..deal with it.

[Jack_]

omg...

VIEWERS WERE ASKED TO SEND IN THEIR OPINIONS

MICHAEL WAS BRIEFED WITH WHAT THEY'D SAID

HE SAID THEIR COMMENTS

All the stuff he said was comments the viewers had made, much like the nomination reasons they were asked to give the other night too. He didn't just make up the sideboob comment, that's something a cat lady on Facebook would've sent in

I mean seriously

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Jack_

omg...

VIEWERS WERE ASKED TO SEND IN THEIR OPINIONS

MICHAEL WAS BRIEFED WITH WHAT THEY'D SAID

HE SAID THEIR COMMENTS

All the stuff he said was comments the viewers had made, much like the nomination reasons they were asked to give the other night too. He didn't just make up the sideboob comment, that's something a cat lady on Facebook would've sent in

I mean seriously

well you can't prove it, so probably best to give it up.

[Jack_]

I can't actually believe this conversation is happening

It's like me saying 'well I never saw BB telling him to shred the housemates suitcases on launch night so therefore I just think he's an evil ******'

He is being told what to do and say...he's a puppet...

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I can't actually believe this conversation is happening

It's like me saying 'well I never saw BB telling him to shred the housemates suitcases on launch night so therefore I just think he's an evil ******'

He is being told what to do and say...he's a puppet...

I do accept what you believe you have seen but what I am trying to point out is that it's not completely out of the question that Michael himself may have added in a few words of his own? It's poetic licence as far as I'm aware.

[Jack_]

I really don't think 'put your sideboobs away' is the kind of comment he would come up with, just look at the jealous cat ladies on the Facebook page, they are all making similar comments, it's not difficult to guess who came up with it

[Pink Pegasus]

Just saw your other post and I can't argue with you that there is no concrete proof that Michael might have thrown in another comment, it's just that I have definitely seen that sideboob comment mentioned online and maybe even on BOTS too so I wouldn't be surprised if it is a viewer comment especially seeing as Big Brother said just beforehand that he was relaying viewers tweets.
But you are right that there is no concrete proof of this, it just makes the most sense to me though.

[alex_front2]

Yes, despite what I said in the 'Skanky' thread I do think she's good value and watchable. She's got good character traits and as she said she hasn't come into the house to lie in bed all day.