[jet]

Originally Posted by kate2013

I dont feel she went on a nasty tirade. I agreed with Hazel confronting Charlie, and Im not a fan of her in the slightest. But I do recognise where fairness should be attributed. Charlie wants to be liked by everyone in the house so they keep her in. So she befriends Gina and then joins in with Gina talking about Hazel behind her back, she befriend Hazel and joined in talking about Gina. You cant confide in someone information about their arch enemy without it coming out.
She did the same to Callum and Dexter because she wanted to be liked by them both, but you cant confide in someones enemy She knew the guys fancied her but just like with the girls instead of being honest to the person she was speaking about, she chose not to in favour of the pay off of wanting to be liked and not nominated. Then when she does something wrong she vents all her built up resentments and the
targeted HM thinks where the hell did that come from. Im not surprised people dont trust her, she lacks common sense, has the mental filter of a five year old, but gets away with it because she acts like a five year old when she gets found out. Honestly someone really needs to throw Charlie a clue.

Very astute post.

[jet]

Originally Posted by kate2013

People pleasing is dishonest. Its a common behaviour but Charlie is picking up resentments against people holding on to them and then only airing them when she is a fault with something. What this does is make the person feel like that person had been thinking that about her all this time and then using it in defense instead of admitting she is at fault for something happening in the here and now. You may think Charlie is a nice person for not confronting people but what she does is collects resentments in her little bag, drags it along, then when she causes someone hurt she reaches into her bag picks out a resentment and throws it at that person as ammunition, leaving the other person startled and wondering where the hell it come from. Then they think well if she thought that about me why be my friend, made worse by finding out not only did she think that about you, but she was telling that to someone she knew you disliked. Which is what Charlie has done. People dont know where they stand with people like that, it makes them untrustworthy because their never honest with you.

Friendship isnt easy, but Id rather someone talk to me about a problem in our friendship and work
through it, than carry a resentment and slag me off to other people

Another great post. You are on it! I only hope the public are too.

[kate2013]

The best thing to do is see where you were at fault in something. where you can admit fault you have the power to change a situation even if its just how you think or feel about it. Most people see themselves as a victim and point the finger instead. This is why things dont change for Charlie it comes across passive aggressive, because when she hits out its usually with something quite cutting that shes stored away. Whether shes aware of how she operates is something else but its frustrating to live with.
Hatred destroys the hater not the hated. The hated couldnt give two monkeys their busy getting on with their lives.Im sure thats what Hazel will do. I dont agree with her behaviour with Daley but like ive said before Daley and his partner have been home for weeks getting on with their lives. Hazel eaten pig snout, walked around in a snake outfit been gunged. Eaten scorpions. Most woman whos partners cheat dont get that sort of revenge on the other woman. And for me I do have a line and it was when she sat and was voted to be house mate most voted to
be gunked first thing in morning, she looked completely despondent. She'd had it. Is she a gameplayer, a manipulator yes,as are many. But what Hazel lacked for me was a sense of emotion or actually knowing anything about her. Think this was governed by the fact she had chose nit to share feelings because people would just gossip not help. Doesnt mean she doesnt have any but because she chose this path i find it hard to identify or get any depth from her. She also went into the house with the most stereo typical gameplan for a model, to use her looks to get into a relationship blah blah. Now if she was attractive but chose to show us some vunerability, share with us a bit loosen up on the gameplan and had a laugh at herself i probably would of liked her a
as a HM. All the reasons Dexters so popular, can Dexter be a horror when talking about HM's in a derogative way as he did with Sam? yep, but Dexter is savvy he knows about the power of being able to laugh at yourself. Dexter the magician who worked as a demonstrator in a toy
shop, A Jack of all trades a master of none. And Gina when they were all tiggling the 18 year old twin on the floor, Ginas face as she walked by had me in stitches, its not so much what she says but what she does, you can tell what shes thinking.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by kate2013

People pleasing is dishonest. Its a common behaviour but Charlie is picking up resentments against people holding on to them and then only airing them when she is a fault with something. What this does is make the person feel like that person had been thinking that about her all this time and then using it in defense instead of admitting she is at fault for something happening in the here and now. You may think Charlie is a nice person for not confronting people but what she does is collects resentments in her little bag, drags it along, then when she causes someone hurt she reaches into her bag picks out a resentment and throws it at that person as ammunition, leaving the other person startled and wondering where the hell it come from. Then they think well if she thought that about me why be my friend, made worse by finding out not only did she think that about you, but she was telling that to someone she knew you disliked. Which is what Charlie has done. People dont know where they stand with people like that, it makes them untrustworthy because their never honest with you.

Friendship isnt easy, but Id rather someone talk to me about a problem in our friendship and work
through it, than carry a resentment and slag me off to other people

I'm not a dishonest person Kate, I am the most honest person I know.

[kate2013]

when all is said and done unless something outrageous happens, unfortunately this series will be remembered for when Daley threatened to nut Hazel in the safehouse.

Tozzie my comments were not personal to you I am sorry if they come over that way I should have put "some" at the begining, I was talking in reference to Charlies behaviour.

Im off to bed now before I resemble a zombie tomorrow, night night

[actor99]

. You know what they say. you made the bed your sleeping in. when you lie about your friend that cant be good. some friend. but I wouldn't wish anyone any harm. but she will have a bad name for a while. Aaron last year had an offal time for ages. and he won the show.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

What is so wrong about wanting to be liked by lots of people?

Nothing at all.

But ditching or betraying your "best friend" in the process isn't the best way to go about things.

Charlie made the HUGE mistake (or good move) of trying to discuss her "questioning" with people her best friend clearly didn't trust.

Surely she's not THAT stupid to think it was a good idea ?

Now she may just be naive.
But add the Callum fondling/Dexter into the mix etc, it's starting to look like she just swings whichever way suits HER best.

Supported her last night in the mist of the preying pack.
But now the dust has settled I'm losing respect for her very quickly...

[anne666]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Hazel will be cheered when she goes into the BOTS studio, having been jeered for weeks by them.

And God forbid that Ian Lee tells any truths instead.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by anne666

And God forbid that Ian Lee tells any truths instead.

Hazel will have to face Iain Lee this Saturday. I doubt the producers have any interest in restraining him!

[south12345]

Hazels a tough cookie, she will handle it with a smile and a wave of the hand. Shes the original Ice maiden who seems devoid of any real emotions that shes willing to show on BB apart from anger and disdain....
But no doubt she will be nervous as to her future career and what appearing in the house may have done to it, but im sure she will be on the front cover of ever girlie and topshelf magazine pretty soon.....

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Its going to be bad.

Probably unwatchable.

I'll be turning off if I cant hear the interview.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Whilst I'm sure many people would love for her to be "torn to pieces", the fact is, those people are going to be left disappointed, because she won't care.

Very true! She's a strong,savvy woman,which is probably what irks a lot of people. Some of her family or friends should pull her aside in the break before the Willis interview,and give her a quick rundown on the character assassination run by BB editing and BBBOTS! That would make the interview very interesting indeed!?!?!
Also had to laugh at Willis saying that they don't hand pick the BBBOTS audience,and that if they don't like Hazel so be it!?! First of all,the same faces appear every 2nd or 3rd night,so they have a hardcore of about 100,and they jumble them up. Secondly,according to most polls Hazel has about 13% support,so to be fair,5 or 6 should be Hazel fans,and not the odd 1 or 2!?!

[kate2013]

Shes a strong woman Im quite interested to watch the interview.

Jade Goody got through it. And BB has to accept in part some responsibility for putting the option of them going in the safe house as an option in the first pkace after the relationship was fizzling out.

[Livia]

Hazel's far above the rabble that rock up to eviction night with their hand-made signs and their empty heads. I'm sure she won't be phased by the idiots, she's a really strong, really confident woman who also happens to be both beautiful and smart. No wonder the knuckle-dragging bottom-feeders will be turning out to boo her.

[Vanessa]

She deserves everything she gets. Nasty, spiteful woman.

[Livia]

Laughing at the females thinking another female needs to be degraded and booed because they don't like her.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

What is so wrong about wanting to be liked by lots of people? I have never got that part of life really. I myself I will admit I am a people pleaser, I see nothing wrong with people getting along, life is ****e as it is and very very difficult, so why not make our life nicer. We aren't here for very long so why not make our life as comfortable as it can be? I hate confrontation and it never ceases to amaze me why people want to have conflict in life, I do know some people thrive on it and those people are the ones I would in my life steer well clear of. Hazel has come across to me as a very nasty piece of work, she seems very ruthless in her game and doesn't seem to give a bugger about any other housemates feelings. I don't like that trait in a person so for me I do hope she is gone on Friday. I do hope by 'typing my mind' I havent made enemies, I just wanted to get it off my chest so to type LOL. xxx

Nothing wrong with it,but it's how you go about it that matters!?! If you bitch about someone to be liked by someone else,and then go back to the original person you were bitching about to bitch about the first person you were bitching too,then that's not the way to do it,as inevitably you'll be caught out,as happened to Charlie the other night.I hope that makes sense!!
To be fair,nearly all of them are bitching about everbody else,most of them don't give a damn about their fellow HM's,and most of them have their nasty moments,so I don't see why you're singling out Hazel?!? Unless you're dependent on BB editing and BBBOTS in order to form your opinion????

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Winkie Expand

She'll be fine if she's evicted but I WANT HER TO STAY.

Love Hazel.

[Northern Monkey]

All they can do is boo and shout abuse,I don't think it will faze Hazel tbh.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by kate2013

People pleasing is dishonest. Its a common behaviour but Charlie is picking up resentments against people holding on to them and then only airing them when she is a fault with something. What this does is make the person feel like that person had been thinking that about her all this time and then using it in defense instead of admitting she is at fault for something happening in the here and now. You may think Charlie is a nice person for not confronting people but what she does is collects resentments in her little bag, drags it along, then when she causes someone hurt she reaches into her bag picks out a resentment and throws it at that person as ammunition, leaving the other person startled and wondering where the hell it come from. Then they think well if she thought that about me why be my friend, made worse by finding out not only did she think that about you, but she was telling that to someone she knew you disliked. Which is what Charlie has done. People dont know where they stand with people like that, it makes them untrustworthy because their never honest with you.

Friendship isnt easy, but Id rather someone talk to me about a problem in our friendship and work
through it, than carry a resentment and slag me off to other people

Well said!!

[Ellen]

I think she is fully expecting to be boo'd after the reaction from the crowd previously plus after the f&f noms. Hazel will handle it well though.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by kate2013

Shes a strong woman Im quite interested to watch the interview.

Jade Goody got through it. And BB has to accept in part some responsibility for putting the option of them going in the safe house as an option in the first pkace after the relationship was fizzling out.

Jade Goody had an amazing response on the eviction in 2002 and there was no crowd for her eviction in CBB5.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by kate2013

The best thing to do is see where you were at fault in something. where you can admit fault you have the power to change a situation even if its just how you think or feel about it. Most people see themselves as a victim and point the finger instead. This is why things dont change for Charlie it comes across passive aggressive, because when she hits out its usually with something quite cutting that shes stored away. Whether shes aware of how she operates is something else but its frustrating to live with.
Hatred destroys the hater not the hated. The hated couldnt give two monkeys their busy getting on with their lives.Im sure thats what Hazel will do. I dont agree with her behaviour with Daley but like ive said before Daley and his partner have been home for weeks getting on with their lives. Hazel eaten pig snout, walked around in a snake outfit been gunged. Eaten scorpions. Most woman whos partners cheat dont get that sort of revenge on the other woman. And for me I do have a line and it was when she sat and was voted to be house mate most voted to
be gunked first thing in morning, she looked completely despondent. She'd had it. Is she a gameplayer, a manipulator yes,as are many. But what Hazel lacked for me was a sense of emotion or actually knowing anything about her. Think this was governed by the fact she had chose nit to share feelings because people would just gossip not help. Doesnt mean she doesnt have any but because she chose this path i find it hard to identify or get any depth from her. She also went into the house with the most stereo typical gameplan for a model, to use her looks to get into a relationship blah blah. Now if she was attractive but chose to show us some vunerability, share with us a bit loosen up on the gameplan and had a laugh at herself i probably would of liked her a
as a HM. All the reasons Dexters so popular, can Dexter be a horror when talking about HM's in a derogative way as he did with Sam? yep, but Dexter is savvy he knows about the power of being able to laugh at yourself. Dexter the magician who worked as a demonstrator in a toy
shop, A Jack of all trades a master of none. And Gina when they were all tiggling the 18 year old twin on the floor, Ginas face as she walked by had me in stitches, its not so much what she says but what she does, you can tell what shes thinking.

Another great post,you should consider a career in journalism,if you're not already!
But on the point of Hazel choosing not to be open,don't forget very early on she said that an ex had committed suicide,and was asked was it because of her that he did it!?! I think that reaction would make you guarded about sharing your life experiences,and your feelings while in the house!?!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Seanbon

Another great post,you should consider a career in journalism,if you're not already!....................

Get a room already.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Hazel will have to face Iain Lee this Saturday. I doubt the producers have any interest in restraining him!

He actually supported her during the Daley incident,by pointing out that she was single,and he was in the relationship,so he was more responsible!
He seemed to be playing the popularity card last night,by joining the anti-Hazel mob,and by going all pro-Dexter!?!