[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Oh please you supported Conor

What's that got to do with anything

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

This just seems like an attack on anyone who supports Jim tbh.If you don't like him then just don't vote to save him.Who other people support is their own business,It's one thing to have an opinion of a house mate but to accuse people who like him in the house as supporting domestic violence is just plain wrong.

I'm asking why people support him. No attack, I just don't understand.

[Z]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

We do?

Nobody knew about that until after he'd died - he managed to have a long media career despite the fact some people knew about his crimes but they were kept hushed up, so yeah, I'd say we do. People forgave Michael Barrymore when he was on CBB even though a guy died at his house and was found in his swimming pool; why shouldn't Jim be afforded the same chance? Either he blows it and everyone who said he was a horrible wife beater was right; or he proves himself to be different to what the public imagined and he's allowed to move past it. The fact he's admitted to what he did in the past surely shows some growth in him as a person? Acceptance is the key...

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

So in 20 years we will be able to forgive him? Yeah right.

Again that's missing the point that Saville got away with everything he did and never repented for it, Jim has held his hands up to what he did, admitted he's had a lot of demons and has tried to fight them

Plus what Saville did is obviously on another level

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Don't see how that is comparable, Saville went his whole life sexually abusing dozens of young kids and got away with it, it's something that's only very recently come to light

He's dead though and people are still going on about it, that's not very forgiving.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Again that's missing the point that Saville got away with everything he did and never repented for it, Jim has held his hands up to what he did, admitted he's had a lot of demons and has tried to fight them

Plus what Saville did is obviously on another level

Oh yeah I know what saville did was on another level, who even brought that up in here

[Z]

Sometimes I speak/post and I wonder if I'm invisible

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

He's dead though and people are still going on about it, that's not very forgiving.

Why would anyone forgive a man who never had to face up to what he had done

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Why would anyone forgive a man who never had to face up to what he had done

Wonder is Jim's ex wife understands being beaten senseless then because it was so long ago

[sampvt]

Benjamin, did Jim really beat his wife, please tell us more, sounds like groundbreaking stuff to me.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Zee

Sometimes I speak/post and I wonder if I'm invisible

I appreciate your posts Zee, we just seem to be talking in one liners here atm and your posts don't meet that criteria

[Black Dagger]

What, who said that? I thought I heard something.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Kazanne, say your husband abused you several times, you would be able to forgive him and support him in something like this?

I would leave him and be really pissed with him at the time .but if I saw he found someone else and was trying to change and be a better person over time I would move on and support him if he was trying his best,I do know what it's like to be to witness domestic arguments(not mine thankfully) but people see red men and WOMEN and lash out ,they shouldn't but they do,Jims admitted what hes done,and he's married again so hopefully this time he's changed,none of us really know the ins and outs,I would think he's been punished for it,why the need to keep punishing him?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Wonder is Jim's ex wife understands being beaten senseless then because it was so long ago

Not really for me to speculate

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I would leave him and be really pissed with him at the time .but if I saw he found someone else and was trying to change and be a better person over time I would move on and support him if he was trying his best,I do know what it's like to be to witness domestic arguments(not mine thankfully) but people see red men and WOMEN and lash out ,they shouldn't but they do,Jims admitted what hes done,and he's married again so hopefully this time he's changed,none of us really know the ins and outs,I would think he's been punished for it,why the need to keep punishing him?

This is what I want (And Zee's answers). I wanted to know why people are supporting him. Fair enough.

[Haylei]

Question: was Jim ever punished for it? Besides media backlash.

[Kazanne]

I found this so far they were married TEN years so obviously they got on at some point
Jim Davidson




is facing a pounds 2million bill from his fourth divorce.

Tracy Hilton is formally ending their ten-year marriage after the comic admitted cheating on her with busty



TV hostess Debbie Corrigan.

The settlement will be Davidson's most expensive yet, and will almost certainly mean him losing his new pounds 1.4million Surrey mansion.

Ex-model Tracy, 31, is currently staying at the house with their three children. The couple bought the pad last year, with Jim telling friends it was the perfect home to restart their marriage.

Tracy, whose mother, Margaret, lives in a "granny cottage" in the grounds, will keep her pounds 75,000 Mercedes-Benz and Davidson may have to pay as much as pounds 15,000 a month in alimony.



"Tracy's primary concern is for the children and she's determined they will be taken care of by Jim," said a pal.

"She tried to make the marriage work, but Jim just can't say no to the ladies. It's his addiction. He has made it clear that he will not make waves over this. He's just as eager to get everything sorted."

The Mirror caught Davidson out after he spent the night with Debbie, 24, at Brighton's plush Grand Hotel. It put the final nail in the coffin of his marriage to Tracy, who supported him through his battle with the booze.

Davidson, the presenter of TV's Big Break began his latest fling when he cast Debbie as a fairy in his X-rated panto




, Sinderella.

He insisted: "I don't want people to look at me and Debs and think anything bad of her. My marriage was in terrible trouble and she just happened to be there. It's not right that Tracy and I should live with this unhappiness."

The pal added: "Jim is totally besotted




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with Debbie. But Tracy's devastated



."

[Z]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I appreciate your posts Zee, we just seem to be talking in one liners here atm and your posts don't meet that criteria

I'm so wordy when it comes to debates, I can't keep things to less than at least one paragraph...

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by MTVN

What's that got to do with anything

it implies delusion
could you justify Conor's behaviour?

[rionablue]

I have been struggling to understand the massive support for Jim also. He have done his time and got his counselling or whatever but a man should never EVER raise a hand to a woman and visa versa ( just in case ppl are saying why pick the man) It does happen in some instances that a woman is violent towards a man. I feel that much of Jims support for this eviction is because people hate Jas and Luisa and Liz is not a strong housemate. Even if I hated every single housemate in there and they were all up I would vote to save them rather than Jim. Domestic violence should not be accepted and even if its years ago and Jim is a 'reformed character' I would still struggle very much to support him and I know what I am talking about believe me x

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Salman!

it implies delusion
could you justify Conor's behaviour?

Nah still don't see the relevance

[Kazanne]

I support Jim as what he did was over 20 years ago and he seems to have changed his life around ,so kudos to him for doing that,Jasmine and Sam are also violent,dont see the constant disapproval for them

[Z]

Originally Posted by rionablue

I have been struggling to understand the massive support for Jim also. He have done his time and got his counselling or whatever but a man should never EVER raise a hand to a woman and visa versa ( just in case ppl are saying why pick the man) It does happen in some instances that a woman is violent towards a man. I feel that much of Jims support for this eviction is because people hate Jas and Luisa and Liz is not a strong housemate. Even if I hated every single housemate in there and they were all up I would vote to save them rather than Jim. Domestic violence should not be accepted and even if its years ago and Jim is a 'reformed character' I would still struggle very much to support him and I know what I am talking about believe me x

Personally I hope Jim, Jasmine and Luisa stay because I watch Big Brother to be entertained, to discuss what happens in the house and to have in depth debates about all sorts of things. Liz hasn't provided that for me. I'm "supporting" Jim because I don't find any redeemable qualities about most of the other housemates, who have done things in the house that have ranged from slightly unpleasant to full on nasty - whereas despite being grumpy and despite his past, Jim really hasn't said anything out of order without being provoked first and even then, he's kept it within an acceptable level - his spat with Luisa was started by Luisa, he didn't say anything worse than what she said about him and it didn't escalate to Dappy/Luisa levels. Liz, Sam and Ollie are generally accepted to be objectively the nicest housemates because they haven't done anything nasty to anyone in the house but then they also haven't done anything of interest either and personally I don't want people coasting to the final and possibly winning it because they kept quiet so they won it by default.

[Shaun]

I do wonder if there even IS a limit on what people are willing to overlook prior to a person entering a reality TV show. Ian Huntley? I mean he did it over a decade ago and it wasn't on TV so that's cool then if he goes in and calls Lynda Bellingham a "boring slag" right?

I'm just at a loss for words that people are willing to overlook such an obvious case of lifelong bigotry and hatred because he isn't as trashy as the others.

[reece(:]

The scary thing is he's an identified misogynist, and it's mostly women supporting him. And what makes it worse is that he confirmed he was putting on an act, the public have fell for it hook, line and sinker.