[Crimson Dynamo]

Her desire to shame Ashleigh overtook logic. She is jealous of her and is scared of her so jumped at a chance to try and ruin her in others eyes.

[Marsh.]

It wasn't about her not liking Ashleigh bitching or it's ok for Helen.

She was pissed off about her being sneaky about the girl power task.

But let's not jump on "Helen swore at her", Ashleigh dropped a few choice f-bombs herself.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It wasn't about her not liking Ashleigh bitching or it's ok for Helen.

She was pissed off about her being sneaky about the girl power task.

getting one over on her

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

getting one over on her

Wel being sneaky about it she has every right to be pissed off. Granted after the first clip she completely forgot Jale and Kim's input, but whilst everyone else seemingly struggled with the decision Ashleigh purposely excluded Helen from discussions as though her opinions weren't equally important.

If Helen did that to Ashleigh excluding her from it all and plotting as though she didn't matter then the word "bully" would no doubt come up again.

[Livia]

Good points or not, Helen call out other people for stuff she does herself. What's more, she never sees herself as being in the wrong. She belittles and ridicules people, forgetting that she herself has constantly bitched about other housemates and said some pretty strong stuff. I know plenty of people on this forum have been bullied and I bet those who have can see in Helen something spitefully familiar. She's a nightmare.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Good points or not, Helen call out other people for stuff she does herself. What's more, she never sees herself as being in the wrong. She belittles and ridicules people, forgetting that she herself has constantly bitched about other housemates and said some pretty strong stuff. I know plenty of people on this forum have been bullied and I bet those who have can see in Helen something spitefully familiar. She's a nightmare.

Helen was calling Ashleigh out on her plan to get Ash evicted, as far as I know and as far as we have been shown Helen has never individually tried to orchestrate another housemates eviction.

I don't disagree she is a nightmare and belittles people etc that was the point of this thread really.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Josy

Helen was calling Ashleigh out on her plan to get Ash evicted, as far as I know and as far as we have been shown Helen has never individually tried to orchestrate another housemates eviction.

I don't disagree she is a nightmare and belittles people etc that was the point of this thread really.

she is an absolutely fabulous nightmare though lol

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

Helen was calling Ashleigh out on her plan to get Ash evicted, as far as I know and as far as we have been shown Helen has never individually tried to orchestrate another housemates eviction.

I don't disagree she is a nightmare and belittles people etc that was the point of this thread really.

Maybe Helen hasn't tried to orchestrate someone's departure but if she had the brains for it, she'd probably have given it a go. But then, everything else she's done kind of makes up for it.

I think it was a spiteful thing to do, showing Ashleigh's comments to someone like Helen. BB knew what would happen. I'm not a fan of Ashleigh, but I feel she's been victimised.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Maybe Helen hasn't tried to orchestrate someone's departure but if she had the brains for it, she'd probably have given it a go. But then, everything else she's done kind of makes up for it.

I think it was a spiteful thing to do, showing Ashleigh's comments to someone like Helen. BB knew what would happen. I'm not a fan of Ashleigh, but I feel she's been victimised.

it was pathetic, they also did a bit of a hatchet job of chris. jale's reaction to him was pathetic

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Josy

Helen was calling Ashleigh out on her plan to get Ash evicted, as far as I know and as far as we have been shown Helen has never individually tried to orchestrate another housemates eviction.

I don't disagree she is a nightmare and belittles people etc that was the point of this thread really.

everyone has a plan, helen is too thick and ignorant to even grasp what ashleighs plan was and why it was. helen is a boring bully

[the truth]

helen cant take it to her face anyway she just gets more abusive and threatening. thats why theres no point telling her all your opinions to her face. she is a complete and utter twat. almost everything is wrong with her, it would take 50 years to tel her all her faults to her face. especially as she never listens and shouts over everything

[chuff me dizzy]

Once you shout like she does youve lost the argument ,thats why Ashleigh came out the best in the row ,she kept her cool ,but got across what she needed to

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Once you shout like she does youve lost the argument ,thats why Ashleigh came out the best in the row ,she kept her cool ,but got across what she needed to

spineless little runt

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Once you shout like she does youve lost the argument ,thats why Ashleigh came out the best in the row ,she kept her cool ,but got across what she needed to

What did she get across though Chuff?she was sneaky and got caught out,well that's what I saw.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What did she get across though Chuff?she was sneaky and got caught out,well that's what I saw.

You just dont like the poor mare

[the truth]

shes bullied most people, especially matthew

[Marsh.]

Ashleigh got across what was needed? "**** off Helen" "Nawwwww....."

I'm astounded by her superior arguing skills.

[Verbal]

Also I have never said that swearing is the sole domain of the working classes. I said that it is for many, the only way they know how to express themselves and get their point across in an effective way.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Also I have never said that swearing is the sole domain of the working classes. I said that it is for many, the only way they know how to express themselves and get their point across in an effective way.

I love a good old rant and curse sometimes,it gets it out your system,admittedly,it's not very ladylike,but I guess I am no lady.

[Marsh.]

Now you know how we feel when you get your mod posse on us.

[Marsh.]

Didn't she receive a separate warning for her treatment of Jale, like Pauline?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Didn't she receive a separate warning for her treatment of Jale, like Pauline?

Yeah, she did, it wasn't an official warning, it was a warning that she would receive an official warning if she didn't stop

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, she did, it wasn't an official warning, it was a warning that she would receive an official warning if she didn't stop

Where?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Where?

Oh God, I wouldn't even no where to start trying to find a video of that, I can't even search videos on their website :/ Marsh remembers what I'm talking about though and he's a neutral on this

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh God, I wouldn't even no where to start trying to find a video of that, I can't even search videos on their website :/ Marsh remembers what I'm talking about though and he's a neutral on this

Well i'm quite proficient at it and that video of a warning is the only one I can find


Oh and i've just been reminded why it's not a good idea to debate with certain people on here.