[billy123]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Perhaps it's Helen's version of those strapping blokes who refuse to admit that tattoo's really *****ing hurt!
"It was nowt like.......ya have nee finished allredy like, i woz just getting into it"

You might have a point if tattoo's hurt

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by bobnot

You might have a point if tattoo's hurt

When i had an eagle with a dagger in its beak sitting on a skull done on my eyeball the other day it stung like a mother*****er!!!
Obviously not a fraction of the man you are.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

You might have a point if tattoo's hurt

Well to draw a fair comparison have your dick tattooed and tell me if it hurts.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by JTM45

When i had an eagle with a dagger in its beak sitting on a skull done on my eyeball the other day it stung like a mother*****er!!!
Obviously not a fraction of the man you are.

On your eyeball you say thats nay bad for a southerner.

[joeysteele]

Look, she has had one child and it was it apearsf rom what she said,for her, an easy birth,so it seems.
She was wrong to generalise as to all births are or should be likely the same for all women,I know from my own family they are not but it is not unusual for births to be very much easier than others.

My Mother for instance, had 4 children,2 of the births were harder than the others,the other was much easier and when she had me, she didn't even know she was having another baby until she was 6 months into it and apparently I was her easiest birth of the lot,a short labour and relatively little pain.

So perhaps Helen should have said, for her, it was a very easy birth and left it at that.

I think as to how she said it, I would have said to her, well good for you but it is not like that for the majority of women,
However I wouldn't crucify her for saying it,it is hardly the crime of the century.
Just as quite honestly I think a lot of things 'all' the housemates say are over analysed as ways to just get at housemates not liked.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Look, she has had one child and it was it apearsf rom what she said,for her, an easy birth,so it seems.
She was wrong to generalise as to all births are or should be likely the same for all women,I know from my own family they are not but it is not unusual for births to be very much easier than others.

My Mother for instance, had 4 children,2 of the births were harder than the others,the other was much easier and when she had me, she didn't even know she was having another baby until she was 6 months into it and apparently I was her easiest birth of the lot,a short labour and relatively little pain.

So perhaps Helen should have said, for her, it was a very easy birth and left it at that.

I think as to how she said it, I would have said to her, well good for you but it is not like that for the majority of women,
However I wouldn't crucify her for saying it,it is hardly the crime of the century.
Just as quite honestly I think a lot of things 'all' the housemates say are over analysed as ways to just get at housemates not liked.

Saying the pain is in your head and women who say child birth is hard are knobs was quite insulting and complete BS. Of course it ****ing hurts, even someone who's not had a baby and thinks about what you're actually doing has to appreciate that

[Northern Monkey]

Every pregnancy and birth is different also.If she has another may be easy again or it may open her eyes a little.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Saying the pain is in your head and women who say child birth is hard are knobs was quite insulting and complete BS. Of course it ****ing hurts, even someone who's not had a baby and thinks about what you're actually doing has to appreciate that

I agree but I have heard some people say Chidlbirth is nothing to fear, as they found it really easy.
I said she was wrong to generalise and that she should have said, for her it was an easy birth and left it at that.
However I do think by now,surely, just about everyone knows that one of Helen's biggest problems is not really thinking before she speaks.

Having said that,My Grandmother always said something that I have unfortunately strayed from as to this subject by even commenting on this on subject on this thread.
It was, 'men should keep quiet as to having children because she was pretty sure that if men had the babies, there would most probably only ever be one per family'.

I think I better shut up now.

[Ellen]

Did she say all women who feel pain in childbirth are d**ks?
I thought she said hers was relatively pain free but those who dont do as they are told and dont listen are d**ks because it makes it worse.

[Kizzy]

She was young and maybe pretty out of it, perhaps she doesn't remember much?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Did she say all women who feel pain in childbirth are d**ks?
I thought she said hers was relatively pain free but those who dont do as they are told and dont listen are d**ks because it makes it worse.

She said that and she also called women who said it was painful knobs iirc (although I could be wrong on that)

[Kizzy]

Ah right, so she's being judged on something she may not have said and the bit she did say has been taken out of context.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ah right, so she's being judged on something she may not have said and the bit she did say has been taken out of context.

I watched the show last night and that's what I heard I only watched it the one time hence why I added that I couldn't be 100% sure of her exact words, for fairness sake. I was pretty sure that she used the word "knobs" though when talking about other womens child birth experiences, which, in no matter what context, is rude and ignorant, no two women will have the same experience and no two births are the same

[rusticgal]

Helen just doesn't show any respect...

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She said that and she also called women who said it was painful knobs iirc (although I could be wrong on that)

In the convo though i think she was talking about women who dont listen or do as they are told and make it worse, that is the way i understood it, could be wrong though.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well to draw a fair comparison have your dick tattooed and tell me if it hurts.

Stop thinking about my dick you perv

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ellen

In the convo though i think she was talking about women who dont listen or do as they are told and make it worse, that is the way i understood it, could be wrong though.

I'll definitely listen to it again, even saying that though, how does she think she knows that about what other women do and don't do? She's had one child, does she make a habit out of sitting in on other peoples births to see whether they do as they're told or not?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I watched the show last night and that's what I heard I only watched it the one time hence why I added that I couldn't be 100% sure of her exact words, for fairness sake. I was pretty sure that she used the word "knobs" though when talking about other womens child birth experiences, which, in no matter what context, is rude and ignorant, no two women will have the same experience and no two births are the same

She says knobs in most conversations tbf I doubt it was an intentional slur on anyones experience.

[lostalex]

i've heard some women even claim to have an orgasm during child birth.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'll definitely listen to it again, even saying that though, how does she think she knows that about what other women do and don't do? She's had one child, does she make a habit out of sitting in on other peoples births to see whether they do as they're told or not?

Probably watches too much of One Born Every Minute

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i've heard some women even claim to have an orgasm during child birth.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

She says that women who feel pain in childbirth are dicks and wimps. My wife was in freaking agony, and I've never heard of a pain free birth from any woman. What size of an opening has that women? It must be as as large as the channel tunnel.

maybe it was easy for. Helen,can't say it was for me,but I don't feel it,s anything to hate her for though,but good try

[Babschap]

She is an idiot. No sense no feeling.

[Mrjrb2014]

Easy for a being as vile as her to say....