[Tip]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Many wrote to Offwat, there was also a Society who intervened, did it stop no. Dee got away threatening to smash his head in (or something to that effect) James got away with all his nasty inuendos, the worst one being to say that Gary should be in a dog pen. These are facts but nothing was done.

These "facts" didn't stop people watching it all night after night - they don't want BBs viewing figures to be affected or something?

BB had stated that they were monitoring the situation regarding Gary, and did warn Stephanie for bullying.

I'm saying that without the full picture of what is going on, maybe it really wasn't quite the way some people are interpreting it.

I didn't see it as bullying but I do accept that people were being nasty "gits".

Don't support the program if you think it is permitting bullying?

Edited to add: I wrote this without seeing a post above. If you are now "thinking" about not watching this program I guess that's something, but do you regret watching this series now?

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by Tip

I'll never understand why people would watch this program night after night if they thought bullying was going on - it's one thing to gossip and rant about it on a forum but that's hardly really stopping bullying.

I watched every night to be able to report the bullying to OFCOM. I made numerous complaints and so did other people. I eventully found my way onto this forum to keep the pressure up by making comments about Gary's apalling treatment. I would have stopped watching CBB as soon as Gary was evicted. As it happens Gary won so all my writing on here, and to OFCOM was worthwhile.

Not surprising my email tag line is :
"Our lives begin to end the day we decide to keep silent about things that matter". Martin Luther King Jr.

Originally Posted by Tip

So perhaps the "bullying" wasn't that bad after all?

The bullying was horrendous and very difficult to watch. This CBB has been a wake-up call, it's shown the very worst human traits in action. I am even more convinced now than ever that under the right circumstances seemingly nice people can become evil and lose all inhibitions and resort to very cruel and barbaric behaviour. George Orwell's Animal Farm comes to mind!

[Liam-]

I didn't see anyone else helping Gary into the shower, apart from James and Audley, i didn't see anyone participate in deep conversation with Gary apart from James and Audley, i didn't see any sort of bullying whatsoever, just a group of people who had a justifiable disdain for one person because of their behaviour, James might have bitched and moaned about Gary behind his back, but that doesn't and shouldn't take away from everything he did for Gary, if it was truly bullying, something would have been done about it.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I didn't see anyone else helping Gary into the shower, apart from James and Audley, i didn't see anyone participate in deep conversation with Gary apart from James and Audley, i didn't see any sort of bullying whatsoever, just a group of people who had a justifiable disdain for one person because of their behaviour, James might have bitched and moaned about Gary behind his back, but that doesn't and shouldn't take away from everything he did for Gary, if it was truly bullying, something would have been done about it.

If someone does something for anyone it should be done with a good heart and not with the intention of going outside and stirring the pot for this is what James did. When he went into the DR he moreorless told them that Gary was going to be ostricised but they were clever and gave him credit for something which he didnt deserve. They then asked him to make sure Gary wasnt, thus he began his preaching, preening but continued his spuddling.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Jules2

If someone does something for anyone it should be done with a good heart and not with the intention of going outside and stirring the pot for this is what James did. When he went into the DR he moreorless told them that Gary was going to be ostricised but they were clever and gave him credit for something which he didnt deserve. They then asked him to make sure Gary wasnt, thus he began his preaching, preening but continued his spuddling.

A good thing is a good thing, in my eyes it makes him an even better man for going out of his way to help someone he didn't like tbh.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

A good thing is a good thing, in my eyes it makes him an even better man for going out of his way to help someone he didn't like tbh.

He did it and then ridiculed Gary in every way possible, he didn't do it selflessly, he did it to show what a good caring person he was and if he had left it at that, he would have been correct.

But he then ridiculed him, lectured him, talked down to him, was horrendously patronizing while telling Gary, He/James was in the right when he was in most peoples view, bullying and being totally the opposite to what he thought he was and no one was falling for his BS.

If he had been what he said, he would have helped Gary and not been as he was, listing


every time he helped Gary and thought he should get kudos for doing it whilst in reality he was bullying an elderly man, consistently and nastily trying every method to get him thrown out of the house.

Audley did it right, he did not fall for James BS, he did not go along with the gang and was always his own person and said what he had to say.

James and Dee are rightfully being damned for their horrendous behaviour towards Gary which continued even into the BBBOTS programme.

I so agree that the put down of the series was when James said he was the Brad Pitt of the dancing world and Gary said, Who told you that.

Simple, deadly and straight to the point, Gary owned James that moment and let's hope James hears it every day for the rest of his self serving life.

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I didn't see anyone else helping Gary into the shower, apart from James and Audley, i didn't see anyone participate in deep conversation with Gary apart from James and Audley, i didn't see any sort of bullying whatsoever, just a group of people who had a justifiable disdain for one person because of their behaviour, James might have bitched and moaned about Gary behind his back, but that doesn't and shouldn't take away from everything he did for Gary, if it was truly bullying, something would have been done about it.

Anything James did was for himself!
He used Gary and then abused him over and over again.

James is a vile and cruel bully who was not pulled up nearly enough by his peers or BB. Every HM in CBB were terrified of James and joined him rather than opposed him on everything in order to have a quiet life. While James was picking on Gary Busey with the tacit support of the other HM's each HM kept their head down and later joined in with James's behaviour. Despicable creeps!

[Jamesy]

George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.

I blame the HMs for thinking that Gary was below them, they saw a 70 year old with hearing disabilities and assumed he was not all there. They should have all taken each other on face value, helped each other and not segregated one person. Had they exchanged values we could have learnt more, they could still have had fun. I dont suppose that Gary went in there to babysit the stupidity of supposed younger people who didnt know their own minds. Shall we kiss, or wont we, do we like each other or dont we? Mama Dee help me, lets all have a cuddle the old man has said something....arghhhhhhhhhhh pathetic.

Gary had every right to be in there and for me I would love it if we had more entertaining celebrities, real celebrities with solid experiences. No jealousy and no trying to outdo each other. Naturally though it was a game but the egos were disgustingly unbearable. What were they after, after all they received their money it wasnt like that other miserable one we saw. All they had to do was to get along and enjoy the moment. Pee in the pool, drink the water, pull ones trousers down when an older man who should have known better, hits one on the posterior with a towel, very hygenic that was. Jump on mama yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk....where was the fun in all that?

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.

They could be in there to be baby sitters. One year they had a mechanical baby that kept crying all of the time... I think.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.

[Tip]

As Gary's eldest son tweeted, it's a "silly show". In my view it has got sillier as "celebrity" has got more and more meaningless.

We'll see if it returns to something a bit more worthwhile I guess but looking at most of the reality tv shows around I'm not sure I'll hold my breath.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Tip

As Gary's eldest son tweeted, it's a "silly show". In my view it has got sillier as "celebrity" has got more and more meaningless.

We'll see if it returns to something a bit more worthwhile I guess but looking at most of the reality tv shows around I'm not sure I'll hold my breath.

I saw that Tip and I agree re the word celebrity. I am quite enjoying the fact of going into one link and it leading to another. The chip is a fantastic thing, it gives us a door to the rest of the planet. I havent even watched XFactor yet, there was talk of it being fixed right at the beginning so what is the point. Will look forward to Celebrity Get Me Out of Here I love Ant and Dec and I have to admit that I do not get so involved with the jungle mates.

[Patricia4]

He was nasty and he was the leader when james said something awful about Gary they all laught and made fun of Gary.
Good for his wife to tell him.
The only thing I agree with and that I like a man and women to host the dancing.

[Vanessa]

Look what someone made on facebook!

Spoiler:

[icecakes]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Look what someone made on facebook!

Spoiler:

Thats brilliant Vanessa,sums them up perfectly

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Look what someone made on facebook!

Spoiler:

[Vanessa]

That group on facebook is hilarious!

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

That group on facebook is hilarious!

Omgoodness where do you get them all from!!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Look what someone made on facebook!

Spoiler:

Room for another twat on there,George,

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Room for another twat on there,George,

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Room for another twat on there,George,

By the looks.......there is place for a few more! In stitches just thinking of the bus to Twatsville!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Angelika

By the looks.......there is place for a few more! In stitches just thinking of the bus to Twatsville!

Stick all of them on it, except Gary and Audley!

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Room for another twat on there,George,

He might be in the boot with Edele keeping out of the way of another twat Stephanie.

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

He might be in the boot with Edele keeping out of the way of another twat Stephanie.

Stephanie was not amused last night! She must have seen Edele and George fumbling under the covers.

Steph, George is not worth waiting for!