[user104658]

I'm very much a Yes voter, however, I am also a realist (and a bookie ) and odds like 3/1 vs 2/9 rarely lie, sadly .

THAT SAID, BB15 closed at Ashleigh 4/11 vs Helen 6/1 sooo... hope yet lives?

[Marsh.]

Hopefully no.

If a yes, they can go to hell. The Scottish Tibbers with them.

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Hopefully no.

If a yes, they can go to hell. The Scottish Tibbers with them.

But I want to stay

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

But I want to stay

Vote No and you can keep your membership!

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Vote No and you can keep your membership!

I am voting no

[lostalex]

I truly believe that Scotland will remain a part of the UK. People don't like change.

I wish this referendum was held at the same time as an actual general election though. It would make more sense to have this referendum on the same ballot as a national election.

[GypsyGoth]

I think it will be a yes, but I think it was Josy that mentioned in another thread that even if it's a no, Scotland will change massively anyway. And it makes sense to have people in Scotland making policy and spending the money raised in taxes on Scotland.

I feel that the no campaign has been very confused and contradictory, and I guess their main goal is to make people petrified that if they vote yes, it will be the end of Scotland, like it will go bankrupt or something and have loads of unemployment, and that's just nonsense.

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

I think it will be a yes, but I think it was Josy that mentioned in another thread that even if it's a no, Scotland will change massively anyway. And it makes sense to have people in Scotland making policy and spending the money raised in taxes on Scotland.

I feel that the no campaign has been very confused and contradictory, and I guess their main goal is to make people petrified that if they vote yes, it will be the end of Scotland, like it will go bankrupt or something and have loads of unemployment, and that's just nonsense.

It's not nonsense, there are countries that their economies have failed such as Greece.

Alex salmond is making promises with no substance and telling lies to people to make them think that Scotland is better off without being part of the United Kingdom.

Salmond also said that the yes campaign was team Scotland which is very insulting and very unfair to say. I am a proud scot but I don't need scotland to be independent to validate myself as Scottish. As well as being a proud scot i am also a proud Brit. I can see sense and see that being part of a strog United Kingdom that my future kids and family will have better opportunities better security.

How can people vote yes based on uncertainty? I'm not willing to take a risk that could ruin the country.

breaking a union that has been together since 1707 is ridiculous in my view, why it's even come to This point is shocking.

#bettertogether

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

It's not nonsense, there are countries that their economies have failed such as Greece.

Alex salmond is making promises with no substance and telling lies to people to make them think that Scotland is better off without being part of the United Kingdom.

Salmond also said that the yes campaign was team Scotland which is very insulting and very unfair to say. I am a proud scot but I don't need scotland to be independent to validate myself as Scottish. As well as being a proud scot i am also a proud Brit. I can see sense and see that being part of a strog United Kingdom that my future kids and family will have better opportunities better security.

How can people vote yes based on uncertainty? I'm not willing to take a risk that could ruin the country.

breaking a union that has been together since 1707 is ridiculous in my view, why it's even come to This point is shocking.

#bettertogether

If you think that the Scottish economy will fail then you are wrong. There are over 100 countries with smaller populations than Scotland and all of them have functioning economies. And I'm sure the majority of the people running them didn't receive as good an education as the ones who would be running the Scottish economy. So I accept you're a proud Scot, but I think maybe you could trust in other Scottish people to do a good competent job if independence is achieved.

And you're still going to be together, it's not like Scotland is gonna move. A new union would be formed straight away if it's a yes vote. The main difference is that Scotland would be run from Scotland and not London.

[Marsh.]

[Mystic Mock]

I want Scotland to stay, but I can easily understand that they would want to be on their own and elect their own parties instead of having the Tories forced on them when they're not voting that particular Government in.

Also the way this campaign has been handled in the most ridiculous ways ever, instead of focusing on the positives of how Scotland and the rest of the UK benefit by being together, we instead get these idiots insulting Scotland by making out that they can't survive by themselves when I actually think that they would cope okay as long as they can accept that stuff like Uni fees, and perscriptions will have to be paid for because there's no UK budget to help finance them anymore.

But I would be insulted if I was told that my country could not survive by itself.

[lostalex]

you know what would really piss off england, is if Scotland decided to make a union with ireland, Ireland and Scotland could gang up and become just as powerful as england and wales.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you know what would really piss off england, is if Scotland decided to make a union with ireland, Ireland and Scotland could gang up and become just as powerful as england and wales.

oh yeah, ireland's really powerful right now

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you know what would really piss off england, is if Scotland decided to make a union with ireland, Ireland and Scotland could gang up and become just as powerful as england and wales.

If that did happen and culturally I agree its likely as the scots irish are pretty much the same blood and very close cousins, trade would no doubt masisvely increase between the 2 and billions would be spent on transport between the 2.... then the welsh would eventually jump ship to their fellow celts too. the irish always pass through anglesey and west wales.....again a bridge could be built between wales and ireland... ultimately it may work out better for us english as wed then refind our identity. patriotism is fine, though for me its the hard working people and english achievements that engender patriotism not the waste of space anti democratic monarchy, though I suspect a hardcore nationalism may rear its ugly head again. hopefully not.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you know what would really piss off england, is if Scotland decided to make a union with ireland, Ireland and Scotland could gang up and become just as powerful as england and wales.

Well I'm hoping for England and Scotland will still be friends whatever the result, I quite like Scotland so I wouldn't want to be scared to ever visit their country whenever I do get a job and be able to pay for the trip there.

Btw I was going by if we antagonize them enough to hate us or vice versa.

[MTVN]

I'm about 90% confident it will be a No vote and think everyone has been getting a bit unduly panicked, though it's true that whatever the result the Scots' relationship with the rest of the UK won't ever be the same again

[Novo]

Think and hope it will be No

[Livia]

Originally Posted by NovoBaratheon

Think and hope it will be No

The pic in your sig... So proud to be British, the union flag on the right is upside down. Well done lads.

I think if Scotland votes yes it will be a disaster for them. If they do, let's all meet here in five years to discuss how it's going.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think if Scotland votes yes it will be a disaster for them.

Why do you think that, though?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Why do you think that, though?

Because I don't think they've done the maths.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because I don't think they've done the maths.

Because you've actually looked at the figures... or because London says so?

I only ask because I find that most people who worry about the numbers immediately start talking about oil: when IMO, the figures and resources add up to a perfectly functional economy even with oil taken out of the equation completely. And all that's required is a functioning economy in order to start BUILDING a better economy.

The overall UK economy, on the other hand, is completely broken and still spiraling whilst we're all conveniently distracted by talk of war and independence campaigns. It can't be fixed, it's completely balanced on London economics (overinflated land value and the financial sector), and that's a timebomb.

Indy Scotland in 5 years time may well be in a worse financial position than where it currently stands but, for the life of me, I have absolutely no idea why anyone thinks that the rUK won't be floundering too, or that the combined UK in the event of a "No" vote won't still be circling the drain.

[Jords]

I hope they vote to stay but Im not too sure y'know

[Lee.]

I'm 99.9% sure of a yes vote now.. This time last year, I would have said it'd almost certainly be a big no.

I actually can't contain my excitement any more and am desperate to get out if hospital on Thursday!!

However, I do also believe that whatever the result on Friday, us stoic scots will eventually pull together and make the most of the situation.

[Natalie.]

Think it'll be a no but so close

[Brother Leon]

I think it will be no, but I'm not fussed if it's yes really.