[Raph]

Most likely a lie, these sexual assault lies are becoming way too common these days

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Raph

Most likely a lie, these sexual assault lies are becoming way too common these days

some have been true though

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Raph

Most likely a lie, these sexual assault lies are becoming way too common these days

stupid women getting themselves sexually assaulted

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Raph

Most likely a lie, these sexual assault lies are becoming way too common these days

Don't tell me you feel sorry for this guy too?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

stupid women getting themselves sexually assaulted

[LukeB]

I still believe ken barlow is guilty
he gives me shivers when i watch corri RUN TRACEY

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Don't tell me you feel sorry for this guy too?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I still believe ken barlow is guilty
he gives me shivers when i watch corri RUN TRACEY

I don't think it's a coincidence that Ken and Kevin turn back up and Faye gets's herself pregnant..

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I don't think it's a coincidence that Ken and Kevin turn back up and Faye gets's herself pregnant..

kevin omg he looks creepy too! and faye gets preggie? she like 12?

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

stupid women getting themselves sexually assaulted

8-10% of sexual assualt accusations have been proven false. This is increasingly becoming a problem in the US where people use the law to their advantage by getting 'revenge' on someone by accusing them of sexual assault, many times when the other person hasn't done so much as shaken hands with the 'victim'. I don't feel sorry for rapists, of course not. I just feel like it's important to have concrete evidence before jumping to conclusions, particularly for cases in the United States.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Raph

8-10% of sexual assualt accusations have been proven false. This is increasingly becoming a problem in the US where people use the law to their advantage by getting 'revenge' on someone by accusing them of sexual assault, many times when the other person hasn't done so much as shaken hands with the 'victim'. I don't feel sorry for rapists, of course not. I just feel like it's important to have concrete evidence before jumping to conclusions, particularly for cases in the United States.

But you've jumped to the conclusion that he's innocent and the accuser is lying despite knowing no more than anyone else.

If 8-10% of accusations are false then your statement of this being "more likely" to be a lie is false.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Raph

8-10% of sexual assualt accusations have been proven false. This is increasingly becoming a problem in the US where people use the law to their advantage by getting 'revenge' on someone by accusing them of sexual assault, many times when the other person hasn't done so much as shaken hands with the 'victim'. I don't feel sorry for rapists, of course not. I just feel like it's important to have concrete evidence before jumping to conclusions, particularly for cases in the United States.

8-10% is pretty low, don't you think? that means 90-92% of accusations aren't false

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

8-10% is pretty low, don't you think? that means 90-92% of accusations aren't false

90-92% sure, but doesn't mean all of those were true, it just means evidence against the accuser couldn't be accumulated. Again, i'm not saying this case as well as others are lies, or not worthy of taking them very seriously. I just think it's of upmost importance that the 'victim policy' isn't taken too far, and that the accused rapist also has a chance to speak. Even if it is just 8-10% false, those people who have been falsely accused shouldn't suffer for it, in the same way that those who actually have been raped, shouldn't have to suffer for it either.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But you've jumped to the conclusion that he's innocent and the accuser is lying despite knowing no more than anyone else.

If 8-10% of accusations are false then your statement of this being "more likely" to be a lie is false.

Well this case itself hasn't gone through court yet, has it? The 8-10% statistic is given after trial.

[LukeB]

all i know rapist/sex offenders will lie and make out it's the victims fault

[Raph]

Originally Posted by LukeB

all i know rapist/sex offenders will lie and make out it's the victims fault

Yeah but i'm talking about situations where there was no contact to begin with, and the 'victim' just claims they were raped. So in other words nothing to do with the 'constent/no consent' argument since nothing actually happened in the first place

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Raph

90-92% sure, but doesn't mean all of those were true, it just means evidence against the accuser couldn't be accumulated. Again, i'm not saying this case as well as others are lies, or not worthy of taking them very seriously. I just think it's of upmost importance that the 'victim policy' isn't taken too far, and that the accused rapist also has a chance to speak. Even if it is just 8-10% false, those people who have been falsely accused shouldn't suffer for it, in the same way that those who actually have been raped, shouldn't have to suffer for it either.

I would imagine a bigger problem then people being falsely accused is people being afraid to come forward and report a sexual assault/rape incase they're not believed. The first thing you said when you posted in this thread was "most likely a lie" Why is it most likely a lie if 90-92% of cases aren't lies?

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I would imagine a bigger problem then people being falsely accused is people being afraid to come forward and report a sexual assault/rape incase they're not believed. The first thing you said when you posted in this thread was "most likely a lie" Why is it most likely a lie if 90-92% of cases aren't lies?

I take back the most likely statement. Having seen a friend get falsely accused in the past year, I think i've become particularly cynical to the notion of rape and false allegations. Don't get me wrong Niamh, it is a super serious issue and rape should never be condoned. All i'm saying is that the legal system needs to find a balance between being there for the victim and getting tricked by the false victim, if that makes sense.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I would imagine a bigger problem then people being falsely accused is people being afraid to come forward and report a sexual assault/rape incase they're not believed. The first thing you said when you posted in this thread was "most likely a lie" Why is it most likely a lie if 90-92% of cases aren't lies?

this is why I get why not everyone will come forward because, they are not sure if people will believe them. because criminals always lie and blame the victim, making out it is their fault.

[Liam-]

The whole 'It's probably a lie for attention' attitude that people have about accusations of these sort is one of the main contributors as to why people don't come forwardd, especially in a celebrity case, it's disgusting.

Someone comes forward with an allegation of rape, against anybody not just a celebrity and people expect the accused to be 'innocent until proven guilty' but yet have no problem throwing away the accusers story as 'attention seeking' or lies, society is ****ed if an accused rapist get's more backing or sympathy than the accuser.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What kind of creepy games do you play?

i don't It was on the news ages ago and it got banned

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Tom!

i don't It was on the news ages ago and it got banned

i want to read it? got the link?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

The bloke who sang 'White Christmas' I think

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Raph

Well this case itself hasn't gone through court yet, has it? The 8-10% statistic is given after trial.

Which means it's a false allegation? Ok then.

[Ninastar]

wow for once i actually agree with Raph

So so many people lie about celebs doing awful things to them. I think there will be a MASSIVE difference in actual sexual harrasments claims with celebs and non celebs. A lot of the time, people just want money and I think that this is another one of those examples

I really hope its not true, as I love Bill Cosby. But I also hope it's not true because it would be awful for the victim.