[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by the truth

this ones a bit odd http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...78677474,d.d2s

The Welsh pub one is weird but two things make me feel it's B.S. - This purports to be CCTV footage so one would presume that the camera is 'fixed' yet the footage is shaking like the proverbial leaf, and the actual footage shows the identical sequence twice.

The other video of the hoodie being dragged by a ghost is out and out B.S. also - though I don't know how either footage was done.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

this ones a bit odd http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...78677474,d.d2s

Looks like the ghost is shafting someone over the sofa.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Looks like the ghost is shafting someone over the sofa.

I peed myself last night at this, and still laughed at it this morning. Your brain works in mysterious ways. Freud would crack up, but personally, I think if you went to have a check up by a qualified Chuckleologist, he would diagnose that the giggling pin which links your laughing shaft to your ha ha organ is grossly distended.

I love you Marsh.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I peed myself last night at this, and still laughed at it this morning. Your brain works in mysterious ways. Freud would crack up, but personally, I think if you went to have a check up by a qualified Chuckleologist, he would diagnose that the giggling pin which links your laughing shaft to your ha ha organ is grossly distended.

I love you Marsh.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Looks like the ghost is shafting someone over the sofa.

Marsh,lol trust you

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Marsh,lol trust you

[Kizzy]

Giving away the secrets of the parlour clairvoyants and magicians does not in any way rule out the possibility that there is something that we at the moment call a 'ghost'.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Giving away the secrets of the parlour clairvoyants and magicians does not in any way rule out the possibility that there is something that we at the moment call a 'ghost'.

If you watch the documentary Randi did a lot more than that he exposed a wide variety of psychic scams, some government funded and offered 1 million dollars for anyone to provide proof, which of course no one ever did. He was also the first to expose the very lucrative Christian faith healer scams runnng in the USA where, like mediums, the healer worse an earpiece and used prayer requests to pretend to speak the "spirits. And thankfully he exposed Uri Gellar as a total fraud.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you watch the documentary Randi did a lot more than that he exposed a wide variety of psychic scams, some government funded and offered 1 million dollars for anyone to provide proof, which of course no one ever did. He was also the first to expose the very lucrative Christian faith healer scams runnng in the USA where, like mediums, the healer worse an earpiece and used prayer requests to pretend to speak the "spirits. And thankfully he exposed Uri Gellar as a total fraud.

I don't doubt that he did... good for him, that doesn't change my view as stated in my post that I still believe in the possibility of a life force that exists after death .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't doubt that he did... good for him, that doesn't change my view as stated in my post that I still believe in the possibility of a life force that exists after death .

Wishful thinking is a very human and evolutionary aspect of our personality

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Wishful thinking is a very human and evolutionary aspect of our personality

That it may, thank jesus you're such an expert on every aspect of the human psyche to know these things.

[Northern Monkey]

I've gotta say,I'm not a believer,Never have been.I even took my misses to stay in a 16th century so called 'haunted' pub where people claim to have seen things and been touched by ghostly beings just to prove to myself that i had the balls to stay in one and to see if i would encounter any spirits from another realm.But nothing was encountered and i stayed awake in the dark the majority of the night.
As for mediums,I think they are disgraceful frauds.The fact that they take peoples money and exploit their vulnerabilities is disgusting imo.
No offence to anyone who does believe in this stuff though,I just don't.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I've gotta say,I'm not a believer,Never have been.I even took my misses to stay in a 16th century so called 'haunted' pub where people claim to have seen things and been touched by ghostly beings just to prove to myself that i had the balls to stay in one and to see if i would encounter any spirits from another realm.But nothing was encountered and i stayed awake in the dark the majority of the night.
As for mediums,I think they are disgraceful frauds.The fact that they take peoples money and exploit their vulnerabilities is disgusting imo.
No offence to anyone who does believe in this stuff though,I just don't.

I agree, I don't mind the card tricks or the "mind reading" tricks where they get you to think of an animal and then they draw it, or whatever, but when they start using psychology tricks to make people think they're talking to dead loved ones... And take money for it... It just becomes very distasteful, in my opinion.

[Liam-]

I'm not a very spiritual person in general, but when it comes to the after life, I'm a very firm believe in it.. If something has enough a mass of energy like the soul is said to have, I can't see how it would just evaporate into nothingness and just stop existing as soon as it's outer body dies.

I love all things paranormal, so stuff like this greatly intrigues me, of course some things have been faked pretty badly and some have been fake exceedingly well, but there is so much out there and so much evidence that i find it hard not to believe.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I'm not a very spiritual person in general, but when it comes to the after life, I'm a very firm believe in it.. If something has enough a mass of energy like the soul is said to have, I can't see how it would just evaporate into nothingness and just stop existing as soon as it's outer body dies.

I love all things paranormal, so stuff like this greatly intrigues me, of course some things have been faked pretty badly and some have been fake exceedingly well, but there is so much out there and so much evidence that i find it hard not to believe.

Good for you Liam. This attitude that because the inevitable charlatans and rogues exist then therefore, there is nothing paranormal, is banal.

Imagine if any kind of scientific research had the same narrow attitude?

Imagine any type of Gold mining operation, digging up nothing but thousands of tons of non gold bearing ore then saying; "FK it Gold doesn't exist here lets pack it in".

Imagine the pursuit of anything guided by such ludicrous views? Oil drilling. Coal mining. Cancer research? Anything.

Keep believing and questioning and looking - that's really how science works.

And sincere thanks for the earlier support.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I'm not a very spiritual person in general, but when it comes to the after life, I'm a very firm believe in it.. If something has enough a mass of energy like the soul is said to have, I can't see how it would just evaporate into nothingness and just stop existing as soon as it's outer body dies.

I love all things paranormal, so stuff like this greatly intrigues me, of course some things have been faked pretty badly and some have been fake exceedingly well, but there is so much out there and so much evidence that i find it hard not to believe.

Perhaps you could share one example where "there and so much evidence that i find it hard not to believe."

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=5597

is an interesting scientific discourse about where does the energy of the body go after death

[Crimson Dynamo]

open your mind too much and your brain will fall out...

[AnnieK]

Given what's going on in my life at the moment I hope that there is something in a person that carries on

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Given what's going on in my life at the moment I hope that there is something in a person that carries on

That doesn't sound too good annie hope you're ok.

[Kizzy]

God, ghosts, little green men from mars... We mock what we don't understand.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

God, ghosts, little green men from mars... We mock what we don't understand.

No we dont, science tries to solve what we dont understand and logic exposes fraud and superstition.

There is a very good reason why, in courts up and down the land, they deal in fact -saying that god told you to steal a car or that a ghost put a bag of crack in your back pocket will get you nowhere.

(and swearing on a bible is tradition)

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No we dont, science tries to solve what we dont understand and logic exposes fraud and superstition.

There is a very good reason why, in courts up and down the land, they deal in fact -saying that god told you to steal a car or that a ghost put a bag of crack in your back pocket will get you nowhere.

(and swearing on a bible is tradition)

Science can only go so far, it is not infallable is it as science is constantly being evaluated and reevaluated, disproved and discredited also as breakthroughs are being made.
Who knows what science will uncover tomorrow?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Science can only go so far, it is not infallable is it as science is constantly being evaluated and reevaluated, disproved and discredited also as breakthroughs are being made.
Who knows what science will uncover tomorrow?

Yes and thankgoodness

Sadly religion closed its doors 2000 years ago

As you can see above.....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sadly for the lone ranger christians the Bible says otherwise. The bible calls for christians to meet and worship together, hence the reason why churches exist.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-t009.html