[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It is not stupid, if the councils had more power and the country was divided into boroughs with each being responsible for generating their own electricity?

The times we live in you have to think outside the box a little, gone are the days of exploitation as we are the ones being exploited. Some are just too blinkered to see it, sustainable energy never runs out and the cost never increases.. bar some maintenance. Nobody wants to be reliant on the cartel energy companies and yet not enough is being done to aid the move from them.

There is No Network set up
for such a dream

[Kizzy]

No there isn't, but there was no fracking set up not long ago was there?... things can move very quickly when it needs to.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No there isn't, but there was no fracking set up not long ago was there?... things can move very quickly when it needs to.

In the dizzy eyes of Lucas
you may say that.


But Today in the UK
there are no long term plans
for Unstable Green Dreams.



Fact

[Kizzy]

Through MY eyes I see that actually.

I am aware there are no plans as not enough of the current set of lizards in charge would make enough money from that. It wouldn't benefit them enough to propose it, that's why it's not a reality NOT that it wouldn't work.

[arista]

The Green Party will not be
in power of England in the next 20 years

So any such dreams are not worthy

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

The Green Party will not be
in power of England in the next 20 years

So any such dreams are not worthy

They are worthy and viable, it's our increasingly corrupt government that holds these innovative advancements back.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They are worthy and viable, it's our increasingly corrupt government that holds these innovative advancements back.

Yes 13 Wasted years of New Labour

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes 13 Wasted years of New Labour

And 4yrs of the most damaging party of the last century.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And 4yrs of the most damaging party of the last century.

Not forgetting the worst ones.
The whole unbroken run of 18 wasted years before the 13 years of Labour either Kizzy, which actually was the main reason for the loss of industrial heartlands and communities, and the start of the greedy companies who bought the energy utilities cheaply and then set out to begin charging the earth to their customers over time.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You make a good point as to Nigel Farage going as leader,which actually may happen if he fails to win in Thanet in the 2015 election.
Possibly Douglas Carswell could take the reigns after him but I agree with you,UKIP could sink back as to votes once Farage goes.

Which makes all this frantic following of his policies by the Conservatives in the main and to a degree Labour too, all the more foolish.

The only thing I am not sure as to your post was that both parties would never allow a party to rival them.
In the 2010 Labour manifesto was a firm commitment to hold a referendum as to the AV voting system.
Had they won or been able to form a coalition with the Lib dems, I do think AV may have got supported in the referendum.
AV would have probably meant no party really got an overall majority again in elections so coalition would be the norm.
Exept when a party was well ahead and a landslide likely.

It was a clever move by the Conservatives to get a lot of the extreme and unpopular policies going through parliament,having the Lib Dems throw out all they stood for and supporting same and then have Nick Clegg running the referendum for AV as all that took place as the Lib Dems popularity started to crumble dramatically.

Obviously the 2 main parties want to be in govt. however it could have been advantageous to Labour for AV to be in place as it would have meant, working with the Lib Dems as to all the Lib Dems stood for at that time, would have been pretty easy to do.

There will never however be AV or any PR system proposed by the Conservative party.
They think they have a divine right to always be in govt. Hence the fact they treated parliament after the 2010 election as if they had won it outright rather than failed to win it conclusively.

A simple fact they still ignore as to the extreme heartless policies they still embark on with their arrogant and dismissive attitude towards all criticism of said policies for all quarters the criticism and warnings come from.

A brilliant post Joey, some very valid points in your post.

Tory party I find to be very sinister personally as well.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Not forgetting the worst ones.
The whole unbroken run of 18 wasted years before the 13 years of Labour either Kizzy, which actually was the main reason for the loss of industrial heartlands and communities and the start of the greedy companies who bought the energy utilities cheaply and then set out to begin charging the earth to their customers over time.

Amen to that Joey!

[orwellkafkararara]

The UK should dump the outdated FPP system (which is prone to gerrymandering, vote wastage and vote splitting) and replace it with a proportional system (either MMP or proportional representation) where votes count, and parliament is more representative of the views of the people.

[orwellkafkararara]

New Zealand replaced the British FPP system with MMP (and had their first MMP election in 1996). In New Zealand's 2014 elections, the Green Party won 14 of the 121 seats in parliament.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zea...election,_2014