[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

It only happened yesterday, of course the government is being cautious. If people chose to go, I personally wouldn't call them "silly".

It is silly, if there is a governmental warning in place then the threat level has been lifted significantly in that specific area. If the threat was as immediate and severe in the tourist destinations of Egypt I'm sure the advise would be the same.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It is silly, if there is a governmental warning in place then the threat level has been lifted significantly in that specific area. If the threat was as immediate and severe in the tourist destinations of Egypt I'm sure the advise would be the same.

Of course there's a government warning it only happened yesterday. I am fully aware of the dangers of hostile environments, spending a significant amount of my working time in Israel, so a couple of random gunmen in Tunisia will not stop me going there. But thanks for stating the obvious in case there are any idiots reading this.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Of course there's a government warning it only happened yesterday. I am fully aware of the dangers of hostile environments, spending a significant amount of my working time in Israel, so a couple of random gunmen in Tunisia will not stop me going there. But thanks for stating the obvious in case there are any idiots reading this.

Yes it did only happen yesterday so to plough ahead with any plans to go before the threat has been fully assessed would indeed be silly. Having to go somewhere on business is slightly different from families choosing to go to an area with terrorist activity on holiday atm.
Nobody knows if the attack was 'random' yet do they?
To be forewarned it to be four armed... and all four of my arms would be cancelling my flights.

[arista]

[Briton Sally Jane Adey, 57, was killed in the attack while on a holiday cruise
which had docked in Tunis while on holiday with her husband Rob, who survived]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3Uq73vk00

[Kizzy]

Would you take your children bob?

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Would you take your children bob?

Yes absolutely have taken my stepdaughter in the past and would again. Why do you ask?
have you ever taken your kids to London? Have you ever taken your kids to Manchester?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Yes absolutely have taken my stepdaughter in the past and would again. Why do you ask?
have you ever taken your kids to London? Have you ever taken your kids to Manchester?

There was no issue in the past...The question is now under the current conditions would you at the moment?

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There was no issue in the past...The question is now under the current conditions would you at the moment?

I think i answered that in my previous post.
The question stands would you take your kids to London or Manchester?
Yes i would.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

The question stands would you take your kids to London or Manchester?
Yes i would.

Of course I would, nobody has walked into a museum and shot dead a room full of people have they? So it's not even slightly comparable....

The deaths in Tunis are real and if you feel that it's worth the risk to go at this moment in time fair play, personally if I were responsible for the safety of others I wouldn't right now.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Yes absolutely have taken my stepdaughter in the past and would again. Why do you ask?
have you ever taken your kids to London? Have you ever taken your kids to Manchester?

Excellent reasoning. It is probably as safe in Tunisia as anywhere.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Excellent reasoning. It is probably as safe in Tunisia as anywhere.

Thank you Kirk.
Glad to see you posting. We Probably got off to as bad a start on here as is possible But i accept that is down to me. Im an argumentative bugger even when im wrong.
I never hold a grudge with anyone and hopefully you can just brush me off when im annoying you too.
There i wanted to tell you that for a while now
Your input on tibb is much appreciated.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Thank you Kirk.
Glad to see you posting. We Probably got off to as bad a start on here as is possible But i accept that is down to me. Im an argumentative bugger even when im wrong.
I never hold a grudge with anyone and hopefully you can just brush me off when im annoying you too.
There i wanted to tell you that for a while now

Sincere thanks Bob, but I think l can also come across as too extreme - especially when it comes to terrorism - so it's my fault as well. Main thing is we're pals now.

I'm still on here but not posting as much, but it's good to read other's views still.

Cheers Bob.

[arista]

Its now Confirmed
this was a Isis Attack.

[billy123]

The Tragic incident in Tunisia will and is being hijacked by the right wingers to try and spread fear and to try and further their racist agenda.
Transparent and idiotic in equal measures.

[Kizzy]

The difference is we don't have the same level of religious and economic tension at the moment.


'Political situation

Tunisia has experienced unprecedented political and social change since its revolution in January 2011. Legislative elections took place in October 2014, and Beji Caid Essebsi became the country’s first democratically elected President in December 2014. A new government was approved in parliament on 5 February 2015.

'Demonstrations sparked by political, religious or economic tensions may still occur. They can happen at any time and anywhere. Most protests are peaceful but some have affected key services and there are occasional incidents of violence and damage to property. There have also been incidents of protest on major roads designed to cause traffic delays and disruption. While demonstrations are not normally aimed at foreigners, international events can trigger anti-western protests.'

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...y-and-security

[MTVN]

Tunisia isn't as safe as anywhere though, its in a region which is incredibly volatile right now and surrounded by countries plagued by extremism. Hopefully they can retain a semblance of stability where their neighbours have been unable to but it is going to be very tough for them. Obviously its peoples own decision to make but a holiday to Tunisia is a luxury. If the price of keeping yourself and your family safe is to pick a different holiday destination this year then its one that most people will be happy to pay

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Tunisia isn't as safe as anywhere though, its in a region which is incredibly volatile right now and surrounded by countries plagued by extremism. Hopefully they can retain a semblance of stability where their neighbours have been unable to but it is going to be very tough for them. Obviously its peoples own decision to make but a holiday to Tunisia is a luxury. If the price of keeping yourself and your family safe is to pick a different holiday destination this year then its one that most people will be happy to pay

Exactly

[billy123]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Tunisia isn't as safe as anywhere though, its in a region which is incredibly volatile right now and surrounded by countries plagued by extremism. Hopefully they can retain a semblance of stability where their neighbours have been unable to but it is going to be very tough for them. Obviously its peoples own decision to make but a holiday to Tunisia is a luxury. If the price of keeping yourself and your family safe is to pick a different holiday destination this year then its one that most people will be happy to pay

Originally Posted by Cherie

Exactly

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yep it's a from me too.

The UK is far more Volatile when it comes to terror attacks both historically and presently.
Is Tunisia really more Volatile than the UK? I dont think it is what do you base that statement on?

edit: After a quick dig i can only find three incidents of terrorism in Tunisia's history (including yesterday)
Sounds safer than the UK but lets not let a good old Knee Jerk reaction go to waste eh. Thats what they want.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bobnot

The UK is far more Volatile when it comes to terror attacks both historically and presently.
Is Tunisia really more Volatile than the UK? I dont think it is what do you base that statement on?

Everywhere is a potential target at the moment, however some areas are more volatile than others, it's like walking around in some areas after dark, just something you would avoid if you didn't have to do it, applying common sense in other words, this isn't some anti Muslim stance btw, I wouldn't have gone to Northern Ireland during the troubles either.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bobnot

The UK is far more Volatile when it comes to terror attacks both historically and presently.
Is Tunisia really more Volatile than the UK? I dont think it is what do you base that statement on?

Well look at its borders: neighboured by a Libya that has descended into anarchy and now has a strong ISIS presence, and an Algeria which has had big problems with terrorism for decades. Tunisia is also the country that provided the most foreign fighters to ISIS. They did seem to make a comparatively smooth transition after the Arab Spring but they are still fairly unstable and at risk of going the same way as other countries in the region

[Kizzy]

Yep it's a from me too.

[arista]

France24 Live
said Tunisia is expected to lose around 700Million Dollars
due to this Evil attack on Tourists

[Livia]

Not sure how they can predict how much money will be lost until they see how Tunisia handles this.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not sure how they can predict how much money will be lost until they see how Tunisia handles this.

Today Loads of Trips and Tours
were Cancelled

Thats how they get the 700Million Dollars number

[Kazanne]

Just seen this ,that lady lives not far from me!!! (Telford)shocked and was planning a holiday in Tunisia next May(2016) doubt it will be top of our list now,those poor people.