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Old 28-06-2015, 07:15 PM #1
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Helen sounds bitter that "every magazine known to man" wanted to hear from Nikki and not her.
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Helen sounds bitter that "every magazine known to man" wanted to hear from Nikki and not her.
More like the skinny little wench tripped over herself to put it out there.
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No it doesn't but it further adds to the point some have been making that Brian isn't the innocent 'hero' he is being portrayed as.

I dislike Helen but Brian was a complete tit in that house, he started and butted into a lot of arguments that were none of his business, throwing in random reasons and lies to make himself look better.
He never was the innocent hero, in fact he wasn't a hero at all for me.

He firstly got huffed and angry with Nikki in the bunker, she even had to go over and try to console him after he had moaned in the diary room too.

Then he cowardly always tried to backtrack from the noms they made,blaming the others for the decisions as if he had nothing at all to do with any of them really.

He then hammered Helen and Marc fro Jade being nominated when in fact it was Helen and Nikki who led the nominations of Jade.

He met someone and 2 days later was in bed with them and almost talking about them as a 'girlfriend'.really odd that to me.

He wanted to leave early on after going in, then decided not to once he got into an involvement with Jade.

Jade gets evicted, then he starts his really bad temper again, taking off and bizarrely throwing shoes behind him,what was that all about.
Then come the big one, his major confrontation with Helen and her 'wrong' terminologies she used at him, however in my thoughts as in others, who were looking at him, I wondered, from his really smouldering and sinister expressions,just what would he possibly do to her if there were no cameras on them and they were alone.

Then he clearly must have known, that he unjustifiably attacked Marc,especially as to Jade,
Which soon afterwards saw him cowardly not go and sound off to BB as he had regularly done before but go and draw attention to himself by climbing over a wall, to what I still say was a very 'conveniently placed' ladder.

Making way firstly for Aisleyne to have a place in the house by his leaving and also to leave the blame for his going on Helen and Marc because of the arguments, which he actually often started too.

All that done,I firmly believe, because he wanted to follow Jade,had she not been evicted,he would never have gone anywhere,or wanted to, no matter what was going on in the house.

To me he showed himself up bigtime, he came across as cowardly and a wimp and also he did look really sinister in that argument and he could come out with some vile stuff of his own when it suited him too.
Good riddance to him,he was painted the better guy by BB in all aspects of 'conflicts' in the house but as is often the case, were we to be ever able to see all the goings on, the realities may be very different indeed.

I would now believe Helen more than Brian.
Because she has demonstrated rightly and wrongly, she is basically honest,he backtracked on so much,despite the cameras, that he is the one more likely to be doubted as to his version of events.

A hero,not in my book.

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He never was the innocent hero, in fact he wasn't a hero at all for me.

He firstly got huffed and angry with Nikki in the bunker, she even had to go over and try to console him after he had moaned in the diary room too.

Then he cowardly always tried to backtrack from the noms they made,blaming the others for the decisions as if he had nothing at all to do with any of them really.

He then hammered Helen and Marc fro Jade being nominated when in fact it was Helen and Nikki who led the nominations of Jade.

He met someone and 2 days later was in bed with them and almost talking about them as a 'girlfriend'.really odd that to me.

He wanted to leave early on after going in, then decided not to once he got into an involvement with Jade.

Jade gets evicted, then he starts his really bad temper again, taking off and bizarrely throwing shoes behind him,what was that all about.
Then come the big one, his major confrontation with Helen and her 'wrong' terminologies she used at him, however in my thoughts as in others, who were looking at him, I wondered, from his really smouldering and sinister expressions,just what would he possibly do to her if there were no cameras on them and they were alone.

Then he clearly must have known, that he unjustifiably attacked Marc,especially as to Jade,
Which soon afterwards saw him cowardly not go and sound off to BB as he had regularly done before but go and draw attention to himself by climbing over a wall, to what I still say was a very 'conveniently placed' ladder.

Making way firstly for Aisleyne to have a place in the house by his leaving and also to leave the blame for his going on Helen and Marc because of the arguments, which he actually often started too.

All that done,I firmly believe, because he wanted to follow Jade,had she not been evicted,he would never have gone anywhere,or wanted to, no matter what was going on in the house.

To me he showed himself up bigtime, he came across as cowardly and a wimp and also he did look really sinister in that argument and he could come out with some vile stuff of his own when it suited him too.
Good riddance to him,he was painted the better guy by BB in all aspects of 'conflicts' in the house but as is often the case, were we to be ever able to see all the goings on, the realities may be very different indeed.

I would now believe Helen more than Brian.
Because she has demonstrated rightly and wrongly, she is basically honest,he backtracked on so much,despite the cameras, that he is the one more likely to be doubted as to his version of events.

A hero,not in my book.
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If Helen is such a prude & was so offended & threatened by Brian's behaviour then why did she not go to the diary room & ask them to do something ?.
Or better still, if she is such a moral person then & money & fame means nothing to her, then why not leave ?.
Helen is trying every trick in the book to justify her vile behaviour.
BB has given countless warnings this series for such little things, does anyone really think if Brian was behaving in such a strange & threatening way that BB would not have warned him ?.
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If Helen is such a prude & was so offended & threatened by Brian's behaviour then why did she not go to the diary room & ask them to do something ?.
Or better still, if she is such a moral person then & money & fame means nothing to her, then why not leave ?.
Helen is trying every trick in the book to justify her vile behaviour.
BB has given countless warnings this series for such little things, does anyone really think if Brian was behaving in such a strange & threatening way that BB would not have warned him ?.
Helen is not Nikki,she doesn't run off to the DR telling tales,she didn't even use that against him when they were having a row,it doesn't matter how moral or immoral she is,that doesn't take away the fact Brian is a complete twat and got away with it because it was Helen,anyone else would have been lambasted.
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If Helen is such a prude & was so offended & threatened by Brian's behaviour then why did she not go to the diary room & ask them to do something ?.
Or better still, if she is such a moral person then & money & fame means nothing to her, then why not leave ?.
Helen is trying every trick in the book to justify her vile behaviour.
BB has given countless warnings this series for such little things, does anyone really think if Brian was behaving in such a strange & threatening way that BB would not have warned him ?.
I don't think (if this is true) that not wanting someone to spread their arsehole infront of you makes you a prude...really
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I don't think (if this is true) that not wanting someone to spread their arsehole infront of you makes you a prude...really
It was a sarcastic comment. Helen is FAR from a prude. That's the whole point.
Why is she suddenly playing the "I'm a virgin & have never even seen a naked man" card now ?.
If Marc had decided, yet again, to cover his private parts in foil & parade in front of her I doubt Helen would have been offended.
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It was a sarcastic comment. Helen is FAR from a prude. That's the whole point.
Why is she suddenly playing the "I'm a virgin & have never even seen a naked man" card now ?.
If Marc had decided, yet again, to cover his private parts in foil & parade in front of her I doubt Helen would have been offended.
It was Brians weird behaviour that freaked her out.
...and there's a difference between someone covering their private parts with tin foil and another being completely naked with their balls and arse on full view.

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It was a sarcastic comment. Helen is FAR from a prude. That's the whole point.
Why is she suddenly playing the "I'm a virgin & have never even seen a naked man" card now ?.
If Marc had decided, yet again, to cover his private parts in foil & parade in front of her I doubt Helen would have been offended.
Shes not? Shes saying it freaked her out. I have seen naked men before, in random situations (such as in a pub ) but having someone strip off and lie on the floor and say they are a frozen chicken or whatever..I would be pretty weirded out by that. As would most people I assume
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If Helen is such a prude & was so offended & threatened by Brian's behaviour then why did she not go to the diary room & ask them to do something ?.
Or better still, if she is such a moral person then & money & fame means nothing to her, then why not leave ?.
Helen is trying every trick in the book to justify her vile behaviour.
BB has given countless warnings this series for such little things, does anyone really think if Brian was behaving in such a strange & threatening way that BB would not have warned him ?.

I believe her and they never warned him for his aggressive temper in the main house. Also if they never showed it on TV then they probably had no need to warn him.

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If Helen is such a prude & was so offended & threatened by Brian's behaviour then why did she not go to the diary room & ask them to do something ?.
Or better still, if she is such a moral person then & money & fame means nothing to her, then why not leave ?.
Helen is trying every trick in the book to justify her vile behaviour.
BB has given countless warnings this series for such little things, does anyone really think if Brian was behaving in such a strange & threatening way that BB would not have warned him ?.
Helen sorta makes a point of not going crying to the diaryroom complaining so maybe she felt like she would be a hypocrite if she did?
I have no doubt that if this happened and if she HAD complained to BB that Brian WOULD have gotten a warning and been told to tone down the nudity/odd behaviour in other's personal space or whatever.
As it stands I don't think Helen is a prude I think she just felt Brian was a creepy weirdo that she felt weirded out by but not necessary unsafe because she knew the cameras were there.
Her and Marc also both seemed to be baffled at Brian's explosions of temper in all the rows in the days before that final row. They both seemed to think he was a "psycho" or unhinged they way he would just explode.

She knows it doesn't justify the names she called him and said she could retract those two words if she could and she does clarify that he is NOT either of those things she called him, she just seems to be giving a backstory to explain the build up of things and why that argument went the way it did, even though it of course doesn't excuse the actual words she used.
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Helen sorta makes a point of not going crying to the diaryroom complaining so maybe she felt like she would be a hypocrite if she did?
I have no doubt that if this happened and if she HAD complained to BB that Brian WOULD have gotten a warning and been told to tone down the nudity/odd behaviour in other's personal space or whatever.
As it stands I don't think Helen is a prude I think she just felt Brian was a creepy weirdo that she felt weirded out by but not necessary unsafe because she knew the cameras were there.
Her and Marc also both seemed to be baffled at Brian's explosions of temper in all the rows in the days before that final row. They both seemed to think he was a "psycho" or unhinged they way he would just explode.

She knows it doesn't justify the names she called him and said she could retract those two words if she could and she does clarify that he is NOT either of those things she called him, she just seems to be giving a backstory to explain the build up of things and why that argument went the way it did, even though it of course doesn't excuse the actual words she used.
But if Helen was weirded out but not threatened by his behaviour then it's a non-story. She has nothing better to say than slate somebody that she has deeply offended in order to gain backing for her behaviour in that house.
Aaron was removed for his behaviour with Joel so Helen knew BB would have to take action if needs-be but instead she waits to weeks to tell it in a newspaper for maximum publicity.
I just don't believe her
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But if Helen was weirded out but not threatened by his behaviour then it's a non-story. She has nothing better to say than slate somebody that she has deeply offended in order to gain backing for her behaviour in that house.
Aaron was removed for his behaviour with Joel so Helen knew BB would have to take action if needs-be but instead she waits to weeks to tell it in a newspaper for maximum publicity.
I just don't believe her

So your saying it never happened when that clips proves that it did. She was weirded it by it and explains why she thought he was an odd ball.
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But if Helen was weirded out but not threatened by his behaviour then it's a non-story. She has nothing better to say than slate somebody that she has deeply offended in order to gain backing for her behaviour in that house.
Aaron was removed for his behaviour with Joel so Helen knew BB would have to take action if needs-be but instead she waits to weeks to tell it in a newspaper for maximum publicity.
I just don't believe her
Realistically Helen knows there is nothing that can happen to her in the BB house so she might not have felt threatened or in danger, but I do believe her when she says she felt creeped/weirded out by Brian and felt he was an oddball.

It would take a lot more though than just feeling creeped out for Helen to go and complain to BB. In the past Helen defended Jeremy Jackson after groping Chloe and said "that girl has ruined this poor guy's life" - she later went on to befriend Chloe and take her side when she got the full story, but just using that example and Helen's general complaining that housemates go "whinging" too much to the diaryroom would mean that Helen would be very reluctant and it would take something major for her to actually make a formal complaint probably for fear of looking like a hypocrite to her followers if she did. Plus they had just entered the house and maybe she just wanted to brush off the incident and carry on with their task and re-entering the main house. But I can absolutely believe that she did find Brian creepy but can also see a number of reasons why she didn't want to make a big deal out of it and complain even if she was creeped out.

I'm not saying Helen is correct in her assessment of Brian as a creep, as how the heck would I know never met the guy, and by all accounts his friends on the telly describe him as a very sweet guy, but I can say that I can see why she might have come to that conclusion.

It wasn't just the one odd naked incident, there seems to have been a buildup of comments, behaviour and rows that led her (and Marc) to form this opinion of Brian.

In my own opinion, that frozen naked duck thing at breakfast time with no alcohol taken might possibly have just been a very strange attempt at humour by Brian and was meant to be harmless but I can still see why somebody could read it differently and feel uncomfortable. The several outbursts of explosive temper which we did get to witness that seemed to come out of nowhere from Brian would make think the person was a bit unhinged (anger management wise) so I could understand them being baffled and wary by that. Maybe this paired with the things we didn't get to see explains to some extent why Helen and Marc felt Brian was a "weirdo" or a bit of a "psycho".

Again I'm not saying they are necessary correct, but I'm just trying to see it from both sides really. We have got to repeatedly hear Brian and Nikki give their explanations for how Helen and Marc made them feel, got to hear them repeatedly explain what horrible vile scum they felt Helen and Marc are, and got to hear their explanations for losing their temper with Helen. So if they get to sit on telly or sell their stories to papers giving their side explaining their feelings and their angry reactions in the house, then why shouldn't Helen get a chance to give her side and explanation of events too?

Again her giving the backstory/explanation does not justify the two words she called him and she makes that clear herself, this is more just a story of her own time in the house and the build up of why the two didn't get along in the first place imo.
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Not that she shouldn't, I'm sure Nikki's lining hers with every article she can drag her name through.
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as usual the anti Helen and Marc crowd find away to attack helen instead of saying "yeah i guess Brian was acting weird" as Joel would say "would you do that at work?" You don't have to believe helen was offended or frightened to recognize that the Brian was acting erratic and a bit creepy

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The clip is there and it did happen so call her a liar now.
Yep, the clip proves she is indeed a liar.
Shocked and frightened by it my backside, she was that traumatised she is sat there smiling and encouraging hm to do it when they get into the house.
She is a bloody joke, as is the 'rag' that allow her to write such utter rubbish.
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Yep, the clip proves she is indeed a liar.
Shocked and frightened by it my backside, she was that traumatised she is sat there smiling and encouraging hm to do it when they get into the house.
She is a bloody joke, as is the 'rag' that allow her to write such utter rubbish.
You must have missed the memo Smudgie apparently the daily star has suddenly become a bastion of truth in the last hour

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