[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No. But the new way of selecting housemates via agents has got to stop. Pick the housemates from auditions only. Do not go for similar types, don't pick based on looks..or purposely look for stereotypes

Stop messing with nominations. 3+ with most votes up each week, no changes. Whole house up if a double is needed...Vote to save for each eviction

Live feed would be preferable but not realistic, so FAIR edits all round. We don't care about what characters you have decided the housemates are, we want to see how they actually are. All sides.

No reason why the live feed isn't realistic. Versions of Big Brother in poor countries with low viewing figures have the live coverage.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

No reason why the live feed isn't realistic. Versions of Big Brother in poor countries with low viewing figures have the live coverage.

I only said its unrealistic as c5 appear to not want it back fullstop. Apparently once the show has 5m viewers they will do it

I would pay for a live feed. As would many others. It would offset any additional cost they reckon they will incur from putting it even online..but they won't even consider it

I do not think BB is BB without live feed

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I only said its unrealistic as c5 appear to not want it back fullstop. Apparently once the show has 5m viewers they will do it

I would pay for a live feed. As would many others. It would offset any additional cost they reckon they will incur from putting it even online..but they won't even consider it

I do not think BB is BB without live feed

If they made a really good website with the live coverage and other features, I would pay a subscription fee.

I did that for BB11, but all they were offering was the live feed and that was it. I'd pay for it, just for that, but if they want more people to be involved they need to create something worth spending on.

[Glenn.]

Let's be honest. They aren't listening to fans and won't. They will continue to run the show into the ground that they dug it up from in 2011.

Unless they have a drastic overhaul of the format or just leave the foundations alone, it will crumble away into nothing.

[Jason.]

They need to bring back open auditions. I have no idea why they scrapped them after BB13.

Ever since BB14, over 80% of the housemates have been recruits, have agents, or have been in the media and/or entertainment industry prior to entering the house.

Even the trashiest and most fame-hungry cast in BB history (BB12) ironically were not in the media before entering the house, and were just normal people, bar one or two.

[Jason.]

Yeah of course not the way it is now. But in the next few years if it improves.

[LukeB]

I don't know because it's been a mess for 2 years now and BB17 might not be any different.

[Ramsay]

The thought of BB only being CBB makes me sick

[Glenn.]

They need to have open auditions again with actual real people and not recruits. The basic format of nominations EVERY week, no alterations whatsoever. Rule breaks treated with severity. And lastly, live feed.

It would absolutely flourish if we were able to watch whenever we wanted: that's the attraction with BB. Or it was back in the glory days.

[MB.]

Skip a year, do a proper all stars series next summer and take time to re-think their approach to civilian BB.

[Jason.]

I don't think skipping a year would help, TBH.

[Jason.]

Apparently Ben Frow wants live feed or some shizzle like that?

By live feed, does mean 24/7 or just an hour a night or something?

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by BB6

Apparently Ben Frow wants live feed or some shizzle like that?

By live feed, does mean 24/7 or just an hour a night or something?

Fame Academy had a live feed from 9 in the morning to Midnight. They could do something like that for a web feed, only perhaps till a bit later, say 2 am.

In regards to cost issues. Money could be saved by...

1. Having a subscription charge that is worth paying
2. Putting less celebrities in the 2 series (Just cut down on 2 or maybe 3 and you'd probably save yourself well over £100k)

[Glenn.]

The money they could of potentially earn if they charged for an online feed. If 1m people signed up for £1 that's £1m in the pot for them.

[Glenn.]

C4 charred something like £14.99 for a series pass right?

[Jason.]

How much were the passes for BB11?

[Glenn.]

I think it was £14.99.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I think it was £14.99.

Can't remember. Something like that. Probably a bit too much given what was on offer. Get the price down to 9.99, have people be able to pay with their phone credits as well as the normal ways and have loads of features and easy to access archival footage, like every episode of every series just waiting there for you to re-watch, and I think it could be a winner.

Anything that displays some inspiration on their part would be nice. Instead of just prodding away at people until they lash out at each other

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I think it was £14.99.

That's a reasonable price. I don't see why they don't do live feed packages.

Yearly Package = £30 (Save £1)
24/7 Live Feed for Big Brother and both series of Celebrity Big Brother in January and August.

Summer Package = £23
24/7 Live Feed for Big Brother and Summer Celebrity Big Brother

Separate Live Feed Passes -
Big Brother = £15
Celebrity Big Brother = £8 (per series)

That way, the viewers who want live feed can pay for it, and Channel 5 get something out of it, instead of airing it for free. Which also covers Channel 5's cost excuse for not having it in the first place, as it is making them money.

[Glenn.]

500,000 people sign up to £14.99 series pass= £7,495,000

I can't believe they aren't doing it tbh

[James]

Originally Posted by Quasar

500,000 people sign up to £14.99 series pass= £7,495,000

I can't believe they aren't doing it tbh

It was reported that the BB11 and UBB live feed on Channel 4 got 80,000 subscribers. They wouldn't get that number on Channel 5.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by James

It was reported that the BB11 and UBB live feed on Channel 4 got 80,000 subscribers. They wouldn't get that number on Channel 5.

Didn't a lot of people get it for free? And I'm sure Oathy used to mention something about them not being allowed to make money out of it for some reason. I was always a bit confused about this issue.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by James

It was reported that the BB11 and UBB live feed on Channel 4 got 80,000 subscribers. They wouldn't get that number on Channel 5.

If it was still at £14.99. That still well over £1million.

Even at £10 it's £800,000. I'm sure that would cover the cost a bit.

[James]

Originally Posted by Quasar

If it was still at £14.99. That still well over £1million.

Even at £10 it's £800,000. I'm sure that would cover the cost a bit.

Yeah, guess so, if they priced it right. I guess Internet bandwidth would be the biggest cost, and subscriptions could cover that. But we can't be sure without knowing all the figures.

But even with a few tens of thousands of subscribers you are only going to have a few thousand, at most, watching at any one time. They probably don't think it is worth doing, for that amount of extra Internet buzz it would generate.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by James

Yeah, guess so, if they priced it right. I guess Internet bandwidth would be the biggest cost, and subscriptions could cover that. But we can't be sure without knowing all the figures.

But even with a few tens of thousands of subscribers you are only going to have a few thousand, at most, watching at any one time. They probably don't think it is worth doing, for that amount of extra Internet buzz it would generate.

You can never measure the worth of "buzz" though. The thing about BB14 and then the CBB with Davidson is that it earned them a lot good will as well. That's one of the reasons it has been such a disappointment the last couple of years.

It just always seemed obvious to me that in the age of twitter and other forms of 24/7 social media, that the live coverage lent it self very well to that.

All they need to do is add some extras. For example... An exclusive diary room feed- to go along with the main feed - every Sunday at a fixed time for when they do nominations. So you know who is up there and then. And then the following day you could do a save and replace task (which I always liked) at a fixed time.

Bring back BBLB (Instead of BOTS which has always been awful) and you can start the noms straight after that finishes on a Sunday lunchtime. Maybe even show the first nomination and then tell people if they want to see who will be up go to the website now and watch it as it unfolds. Do some kind of web version of BIg Brother's Big Mouth with Iain Lee as well. He's much funnier when he's given the freedom to do what he wants.

There are so many extra features they could add and as long as they advertise it all well, it could be great again. It's got to be better than coming up with ever more desperate stunts each week to contrive drama that soon becomes insufferable.