[armand.kay]

I wouldn't say any of them deserve to be called racist they made a few ignorant remarks but so did kemal and makosi.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Makosi, Derek and Kemal are three of the best people they ever had on the show, they were all hilarious and Makosi was a nut job.

Just google "Derek Laud scallywag" to get a good sense of the sort of person he is

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I disagree personally on what you said regarding people not being sensitive compared to before, I think yes, true that they are covering their backs, but even when they do, the OFCOM complaints still come in. They have continuously given telling offs to many HMs this series when it really was not needed, but they feel they need to because of the OFCOM complainers. So all in all, that's why I think people are so sensitive nowadays.

I mean, even after the race row, when Jade was evicted, that was pretty much the end of the complaints. I don't recall many complaints after she went, but if that were to happen nowadays, even after Jade was evicted, the OFCOM lot would have found anything to complain about again.

It seems that viewers want to be offended. If you look at the OFCOM complaints from the series, every single episode got a complaint, even the ones where not even a raised voice was shown on screen.

IMO, the only time the complaints were justified (normal complaints, not OFCOM) was Helen comparing Belo to a murderer/rapist. That's the only fair complaint to make.

NOTHING else in the series was worthy of an OFCOM complaint. There really wasn't anything brutal this series. People on the forums were complaining about...

- Chloe crying after Marc apparently made her cry after he only sais "stop listening into the conversation", apparently he was being a bully

- Joel taking Jack's case, apparently he was a bully

Everything Marc did apparently lead to him being a bully. It's just laughable.

Actually Marc really was a bully. The problem today is that people get so hysterical about bullying they are reluctant to use the word to describe such an obvious one. This was a guy who constantly invaded people's personal space, knowing full well a person couldn't react how they usually would in the real world (by pushing him away or even thumping him), made very insulting and demeaning comments and just generally tried to prod away at people until they snapped, at which point he was apparently the victim. A very manipulative and nasty piece of work imo.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

bb6 was not a racial divide it was more of a cultural divide. I wouldn't even count Derik, science and roberto as being on machoism's group's side it they just hated maxwell's crew at the time but i wouldn't say they liked each other at all.

This is true... A shared dislike and jealousy of Maxwell and Saskia (ever since they got cheered that night) is what united that group. They soon fell out when Maxwell and Saskia left. Why? Because they were extremely arrogant people.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Just google "Derek Laud scallywag" to get a good sense of the sort of person he is

I knew these rumours but they've been dismissed on many occasions, they were going around at the time too.

In the unlikely event they were to be true I would obviously hate him and feel sickened but as things stand I thought he was a great housemate and very amusing.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

This is true... A shared dislike and jealousy of Maxwell and Saskia (ever since they got cheered that night) is what united that group. They soon fell out when Maxwell and Saskia left. Why? Because they were extremely arrogant people.

Because Makosi fed Kemal lies about her being a mole and left his head ****ed...she was my favourite but it's down to her they all 'fell out', Kemal was genuine to her.

[the truth]

were over sensitive about women , gay rights and immigrants, but mens rights have gone backwards since then to the point where a man can be called looking like a rapist psycho murderer and nothing happens?

[lily.]

BB6 was and still is the best BB of all time.

[Jake.]

I think BB7 would also have a lot more complaints going for it, mainly regarding some of the transphobia

[Shaun]

If maxwell were to have been ejected for anything it would most likely have been putting his own scabs in Science's food surely? Not that I'd have complained. Vermin.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Because Makosi fed Kemal lies about her being a mole and left his head ****ed...she was my favourite but it's down to her they all 'fell out', Kemal was genuine to her.

Vanessa and Makosi and derrick and Kemal were the only friendships that survived post Saskia. Not many of the anti saskia crew really liked each other tbh.

[REDCROP]

A lot of Viewers get PC when it suits them and not when its right or wrong....the vitriol thrown at Christian last week and the eviction of Aaron were way out of proportion when you consider the behaviour of Brian, Helen;, Danny, Chloe, and Aisleyne who were often still admired after their violence....so yes I do think it would still be the same as years ago if its violent abuse....that seems accepted by a lot of people, not me I must add. But naked bodies and anything to do with sex gets people more heated up today than in the esrlier shows. The show can't be very PC still becsuse if it was all of the above would have been thrown out for violent or threatening behavior

[armand.kay]

I like the fact that bb didn't make a huge deal out of danny v marc one of the only god things about this series.

[REDCROP]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I like the fact that bb didn't make a huge deal out of danny v marc one of the only god things about this series.

Like I said before, the violence doesn't offend people as much as the naked bodies do....There was so much negativity around Harry for being naked yet very little said about the scenes of violence. ...I think its the wrong way round. ..

[Mystic Mock]

The more the producers have leaned against the left wing nature of the show, the more the show is attracting a prim & proper audience which can't handle anything slightly whacky or trashy.

[Donovan.]

I'd expect complaints about Leslie impersonating a medical professional on launch night.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh nearly every Ch4 series would have at least 3 ejection if they was made on Ch5.

[rionablue]

Op has a brilliant memory. I have watched all BB's from BB3 onwards and I couldn't single out incidents if I am honest. I don't complain to Ofcom or anyone else if I don't like something that is happening on BB. I trust that BB will deal with it (even though at times people were ejected for far lesser things than people were NOT ejected for). I choose to watch BB because I like it. There have been years that have been trying to say the least ESPECIALLY Rex Rachel Katreya year with the happy happy house. I haven't ever switched off and said 'sod it this is crap'. I have very strong views on behaviour and controversy which I air here and find people either agree or disagree. If it ever got to a point that BB just didn't 'do it for me anymore' I would select something from another channel. However I do honestly give credit to OP for the well thought out post

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Donovan.

I'd expect complaints about Leslie impersonating a medical professional on launch night.

and then an officer on her way out

[Today]

Can someone enlighten me as to what is so special about bb contestants that they should be allowed to behave aggressively/violently/in a racist manner etc whilst those in the general populace outside the house could often be charged under criminal legislation for such behaviour?
What's so special about them please tell me?

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

With the exception of Fight Night did 'formal warnings' even exist before the race row?

Yeah. I'm re-watching BB5. And Stu and Jason both got formal warnings outside of Fight Night. Jason for not staying seated in the lounge with everyone else, during nominations, and Stuart for not giving full and frank reasons for his nominations after being reprimanded for it during previous weeks. Oh and Michelle receiving a first and final warning for obstructing the Diary Room camera, and trying to incinerate it.

Pretty tame reasons by today's standards. But that was back when BB was evil and strict.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The more the producers have leaned against the left wing nature of the show, the more the show is attracting a prim & proper audience which can't handle anything slightly whacky or trashy.

The mob which congregates outside the house every Friday don't seem very 'prim and proper'.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by BB6

Incorrect.

Saskia was evicted on Day 36, which was on Friday 1st July 2005 - 6 days before the 7/7 attacks. It was Maxwell that was evicted that week, on Friday 8th July 2005 - the day after the attacks.

The evictees used to be on BBLB all week. She was the evictee for that week, the week 7/7 happened. That's what I meant anyway.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The more the producers have leaned against the left wing nature of the show, the more the show is attracting a prim & proper audience which can't handle anything slightly whacky or trashy.

The things they get in trouble over are fashionable left wing causes... Racism and homophobia in particular.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by lily.

BB6 was and still is the best BB of all time.

I really don't think it was. It got the same viewing figures as BB4. It was quite a depressing series to watch back when it aired. Just an unpleasant group of people.

Big Brother 3 and 5 both had more interesting and more likeable housemates. Big Brother 7 was doing fine until the House Next Door twist as well.