[seanraff07]

Went down in my estimations a bit tonight, although I agree with what she said it was pretty low.

[Heaven = Winner]

All she really did was call Gemma a fat ****. I mean I can see how to some that can be over the top, but Tiffany just said what she felt, and I highly doubt she offended anybody other than Gemma.

[BENDERBOY]

Ghetto c###

[kirklancaster]

Nope - She didn't go far enough. The English language has thousands more adjectives which are apt to describe a manipulative, lazy, shet-stirring, obese **** such as Gemma Collins, and Tiffany had a right to use all of them.

Don't anyone try to tell me that beached whale Gemma is a victim, because she isn't - Tiffany has been a victim, and Gemma only received a little bit of her own back.

[Livia]

She had a point but went way too far. She was drunk... and she's a mean drunk.

[Jordan.]

Megans outburts made Tiffanys seem mild in comparison

[MTVN]

'C__t' is generally considered a much more offensive word in the US than here I think

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by MTVN

'C__t' is generally considered a much more offensive word in the US than here I think

Here its even a term of endearment sometimes haha

'Hey how have you been you fat ****' could easily be said between friends

But yeah in this instance is was meant nastily

[Stormy]

I can't say Tiffany is being fair and reasonable in her response...but I don't think she went too far. In fact, I'd love it if she just went off on the whole house. They are already treating her badly...so why not give it to them.

[Lostie!]

Yes, she went too far by bringing weight into it.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Yes, she went too far by bringing weight into it.

Tbf Gemma invites comments about her weight

[achro]

Are you kidding? People are watching for a punch-out. **** **** ****.

[Northern Monkey]

She was 100% correct in her assessment.Tiffany was very honest and i respect her for it.

[Carl Jayson]

She didn't cross the line, she told the truth about Miss Piggy

Stay pressed at the HBIC of the house though

[Edna Mode]

Originally Posted by Carl Jayson

She didn't cross the line, she told the truth about Miss Piggy

Stay pressed at the HBIC of the house though

I thought I was the only one who saw the resemblance! Lmfao!

[Jack_]

Well I thought the 'fat ****' jibe was a little harsh but hey at least it was in the DR and not to her face, as for the rest of it...no, it was funny

And I love Gemma

[rionablue]

I don't like Gemma and I like Tiff or liked her. I was sick to my stomach on hearing Tiff call Gemma that and I am no prude neither do I hold back on my comments in here and yes Gemma is big and she is lazy and divalike but Tiffs comment was sick

[jet]

Originally Posted by rionablue

I don't like Gemma and I like Tiff or liked her. I was sick to my stomach on hearing Tiff call Gemma that and I am no prude neither do I hold back on my comments in here and yes Gemma is big and she is lazy and divalike but Tiffs comment was sick

Yes. It seems overweight people are fair game for abuse. The comments on here about Gemma's appearance have been disgusting too. I guess all those who make them must think they themselves are perfect specimens.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by rionablue

I don't like Gemma and I like Tiff or liked her. I was sick to my stomach on hearing Tiff call Gemma that and I am no prude neither do I hold back on my comments in here and yes Gemma is big and she is lazy and divalike but Tiffs comment was sick

'Nasty' words can be wounding, yes, but nowhere near as damaging as a continual series of nasty actions, practiced against Tiffany by a majority in such a short space of time in such a confined space as the BB house.

Tiffany has been UNFAIRLY 'ganged up on', ostracised, and scape-goated, but what she said about Gemma Collins when Tiffany finally retaliated WAS both TRUE and WARRANTED.

Why is it such a big shocking deal now that the 'worm has turned'?

[Edna Mode]

That poll's a bit biased. Obviously it wasn't fair and reasonable, but given the context of BB, it's really nothing. Besides, it was in a private confession, not to her face. Also, Gemma had been stirring the pot, and she was the one who made the jab about Tiff's feet.

[Erik B]

I love reading all the excuses people make for Tiffany like they usually do for toddlers.

Would you want her to live with you? She doesn't clean, cook, care, work, share, love and she will insult you over anything and accuse you of a lie anytime because her brain doesn't remember anything uncomfortable.

When can she move in with all you Tiffany-apologists?

[AarynGriesfan]

Originally Posted by Erik B

I love reading all the excuses people make for Tiffany like they usually do for toddlers.

Would you want her to live with you? She doesn't clean, cook, care, work, share, love and she will insult you over anything and accuse you of a lie anytime because her brain doesn't remember anything uncomfortable.

When can she move in with all you Tiffany-apologists?

I wouldn't wanna live with her but I do enjoy watching her on my computer screen and that's all that I really care about.

[Ammi]

...wow, she comes out fighting when she's attacked...yeah, she probably did go too far and was too personal which is a shame because there has been so many wrongs in that house and I'm sure that she'll get a lot of criticism but her wrong in going too far has not been anything like other things that have happened...not great I know but it was a reaction rather than an action and a reaction to so many things against her...she's been isolated, told she's not wanted in the house, been blamed for a genuine misunderstanding and her upset over that, had someone give her a gift and then take it back from her..and from what Megan said in the DR, may have even felt racial undertones from some housemates..she was acting on the back of frustration and them not letting her speak up against Gemma taking the shoes back..(which was a low, low thing to do..).. not giving her a voice but huffing and puffing and rolling their eyes and some even walking away...no maybe her reactions weren't great but their action have been much, much worse..and they have no excuse of reacting, theirs has just been attacking and persistent attacking...they're a pack of really quite grim people....

[Ammi]

..sadly also, her reaction may over-shadow what was the most awful thing, which was Megan's racist comment...there's no point in BB making a stand against Winston and then allowing something like that, it was undoubtedly racist...that really should be the focus but I fear it won't be...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...wow, she comes out fighting when she's attacked...yeah, she probably did go too far and was too personal which is a shame because there has been so many wrongs in that house and I'm sure that she'll get a lot of criticism but her wrong in going too far has not been anything like other things that have happened...not great I know but it was a reaction rather than an action and a reaction to so many things against her...she's been isolated, told she's not wanted in the house, been blamed for a genuine misunderstanding and her upset over that, had someone give her a gift and then take it back from her..and from what Megan said in the DR, may have even felt racial undertones from some housemates..she was acting on the back of frustration and them not letting her speak up against Gemma taking the shoes back..(which was a low, low thing to do..).. not giving her a voice but huffing and puffing and rolling their eyes and some even walking away...no maybe her reactions weren't great but their action have been much, much worse..and they have no excuse of reacting, theirs has just been attacking and persistent attacking...they're a pack of really quite grim people....

Another intelligent and analytically on-point post Ammi.