[Denver]

perched for Portugal hitting 6 past the sheep shaggers

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

england were and are one of the weakest teams in the euros

Them russia and ukraine were the worst

I would put england (in english league terms) perhaps like a Charlton or Rotherham. A semi decent basement Championship team

They have zero chance of ever achieving what Wales have done

not in out lifetimes that is for sure

In terms of home teams at the mo they are the worst home nation

I would say

Wales
Scotland/NI
Ireland

England

Scotland didn't even qualify and we got into the knock outs pfft

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

england were and are one of the weakest teams in the euros

Them russia and ukraine were the worst

I would put england (in english league terms) perhaps like a Charlton or Rotherham. A semi decent basement Championship team

They have zero chance of ever achieving what Wales have done

not in out lifetimes that is for sure

In terms of home teams at the mo they are the worst home nation

I would say

Wales
Scotland/NI
Ireland

England

Scotland are the weakest as they can't even qualify for these domestic tournaments.

Imo England needs a Manager that actually picks the players on form and not on brand names that play for big teams but are playing absolutely terrible, or are not fully fit.

The only player that won me over because he actually tried in these Euros was Lallana, and Kyle Walker was brilliant as expected.

If England had've put in Danny Simpson, Wes Morgan, Marc Albrighton, Danny Drinkwater, Andy Carroll, Mark Noble, and Michail Antonio instead of Jordan Henderson, Jack Wilshere, James Milner, and Nathaniel Clyne we might've done better.

[GiRTh]

Teams like Wales, Iceland etc who have done well have a core of no more than 15 players, if that, who play every game. Players who come into the side know they are only there for the one game or until the regular comes back. England cant do that. A player like Vardy scores ten goal in consecutive games and the clamor for him to play for England becomes too much. For me, here in lies one of the problems. England are not Germany who have 20-25+ players that they can choose from all of them know the system and all are good enough.

England either need a manager who will select his core squad of say 15 and stick to it or its time for quotas in the Premier league. A league where there are 5+ home players playing every week; then England may get the 25+ players that the media and some of the fans seem to think they already have. Currently England performances in these tournaments are getting worse not better.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh Girth we're no champions by any means, but I know that we could reach the Quarters and even the Semi-Finals with the players that we've got going into these competitions.

How we're not doing better is a disgrace, and not beating Iceland is an even bigger disgrace.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbh Girth we're no champions by any means, but I know that we could reach the Quarters and even the Semi-Finals with the players that we've got going into these competitions.

How we're not doing better is a disgrace, and not beating Iceland is an even bigger disgrace.

Youtube video

I agree England should be reaching the Quarters or Semis.

Great to see what Giggs thinks is wrong. I totally agree with his comment on the 'Washbag culture' and that some of the things England do wrong would not happen at top clubs. I dont think one man can solve the problem but it need the Premier league and the FA to work with each other but I doubt anything substantial will be done to change the problems.