[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He has always been there for him when no one else was.

He's only there for Andy when none of the other HMs are present.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't even like Andy but it's plain to anyone with unclouded eyes that Andy has actively supported Jason throughout their time in the house yet Jason never defends Andy in group situations because he doesn't want to put himself at risk.

You just think Andy is disloyal because you mistake loyalty for blind faith.

i just didn't like the way he acted last night. But i guess we will have to wait and see.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

i just didn't like the way he acted last night. But i guess we will have to wait and see.

Well no, we don't have to wait and see.

We have weeks of footage of Andy being there for Jason regardless of circumstances and Jason not doing the same for Andy if it doesn't benefit him.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well no, we don't have to wait and see.

We have weeks of footage of Andy being there for Jason regardless of circumstances and Jason not doing the same for Andy if it doesn't benefit him.

We will have to agree to disagree then.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We will have to agree to disagree then.

Don't know how you can agree to disagree when proof of Jason's disloyalty has been broadcasted on national TV. You can choose to ignore it or accept it but you can't agree to disagree when there's evidence, it's not a theological debate.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't think Andy said or did anything out of order either, I doubt he even sees Jason as anything other than being still a friend.
His take on the accent was funny.

Being a friend does not mean you have to agree and support all the time, there are times when a really good friend realises even the best of friends can be irritating at times.

It is nothing sinister or being nasty in any way at all in my view.

Exactly Joey! You'd think Andy had sworn on oath to be 100% for Jason at all times, never leave his side and only have fun when Jason is in the mood. He's a friend, not Jason's paid carer, and I'm sure Jason would be mortified if he knew people were practically saying he should be molly coddled.

[Beso]

I doubt Jason's even farted yet incase it tarnishes his portrayal of a good guy.

[Amy Jade]

I don't like either but Andy has been more loyal than Jason, I can't even think of one time Jason has jumped to Andys defence like Andy has done for him.

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I doubt Jason's even farted yet incase it tarnishes his portrayal of a good guy.

[delta]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't have a problem with Andy getting frustrate d. But he mocked him last night, uncalled for.

This, Andy is another one of BB's loathsome characters. Lateysha had it right, when she said 'he makes my skin crawl' he's a slimy piece of work, another one that is quite happy when the spot light is on him.

He knew he'd been bad mouthing Jason and was bricking it, when Jason comes out he will feel extremely disappointed when he sees the high lights back. I actually think he doesn't like Jason and it's an alliance of convenience on his part. Where as I don't think Jason dislikes Andy, but I would say he's not the sort of bloke ( term used loosely) that he would normally talk to.

Andy holds everyone in there with utter contempt and thinks they are beneath him, he thinks he is some intellectual heavy weight- he's reasonably bright but not earth shattering and Hughie can more than hold his own with him.

[sungrass]

Andy is in the diary room slagging Jason off - I dont see that the other way round...Jason is playing alone now - I dont think he even notices anyone else and I dont see him asking for help - hes the kinda one that retreats into themselves to regain strength

[Vanessa]

And it looks like Andy nominated Jason. He was stuck to him like glue when he got cheers. The minute he gets boos he distances himself, then nominates him. Some friend

[chuff me dizzy]

Agree Nessa ,and IF he's nominated Jason this week I will totally dislike him even more

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Agree Nessa ,and IF he's nominated Jason this week I will totally dislike him even more

I get the feeling he's a sly one.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I get the feeling he's a sly one.

Watch this and see him chewing his nails up to his elbows !! I think he's defo voted Jason ,and what a snake that would make him

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/nomin...semates-day-42

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Fair enough, be honest with Jason. But to turn your back on him after he was there for you when you had no one? What a slimey worm I hope Jason nominates his ass.

its a game and he is playing it.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by waterhog

its a game and he is playing it.

He will lose all the supprot he has for being a snake.

[hot2go]

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Agree Nessa ,and IF he's nominated Jason this week I will totally dislike him even more

And if Jason nominates Andy ? What then ?

[Jordan.]

Needs to make his mind up if they're friends or not because when he's around Jason he's all up for supporting him then he goes and slates him in DR straight after

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Needs to make his mind up if they're friends or not because when he's around Jason he's all up for supporting him then he goes and slates him in DR straight after

He's not a loyal friend, is he?

[joeysteele]

He won't lose my support even if he has, just as Jason would not lose my support had he as to Andy.
These things happen and for many reasons not just bad ones.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He won't lose my support even if he has, just as Jason would not lose my support along had he as to Andy.
These things happen and for many reasons not just bad ones.

It would piss me off no end. And Jason hassle never snagged off Andy in the diary room. Nominating him. On top of that would be too much for me.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It would piss me off no end. And Jason hassle never snagged off Andy in the diary room. Nominating him. On top of that would be too much for me.

I have yet to hear or see Andy really saying anything that could be even termed unpleasant, never mind bad, from Andy as to Jason anywhere in the house or diary room.
..and vice versa too.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have yet to hear or see Andy really saying anything that could be even termed unpleasant, never mind bad, from Andy as to Jason anywhere in the house or diary room.
..and vice versa too.

I know Jason would forgive Andy if he nominated him. But I can't. I hate disloyalty.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I get the feeling he's a sly one.

Again, when has Jason ever defended Andy. It seems like pretty much a one sided friendship to me, Andy puts himself on the line for Jason on the regular but Jason's quiet as a mouse when the HMs bitch about Andy.

Jason's a terrible friend.